PrimeTime101 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 4 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 9, 2023 Author Share Posted March 9, 2023 I think Hyde has such a huge grasp on things/life in general 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 11 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think Hyde has such a huge grasp on things/life in general He's a winner and could obviously do TV work post playing as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I remember watching him earlier in his career in GB and thinking “man, this guy just makes plays”. So glad we signed him and he’s definitely proven that wasn’t a fluke. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 5 minutes ago, babulator said: He's a winner and could obviously do TV work post playing as well. Yep. Doesn't hurt that he's smart, handsome and charismatic either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 I agree on Hyde. Very intelligent and well spoken and unlike some ex-athletes who work in broadcasting does not sound like he is speaking with marbles in his mouth. He was my top free agent (a fan of Packers) and was advocating him being signed before free agency opened. Packers knew what that had with him but not what he could become. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: I agree on Hyde. Very intelligent and well spoken and unlike some ex-athletes who work in broadcasting does not sound like he is speaking with marbles in his mouth. He was my top free agent (a fan of Packers) and was advocating him being signed before free agency opened. Packers knew what that had with him but not what he could become. I know Green Bay fans were sad to lose him. It was pretty well known that Hyde would be a good player. Poyer was the big surprise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 8 minutes ago, MJS said: I know Green Bay fans were sad to lose him. It was pretty well known that Hyde would be a good player. Poyer was the big surprise. Bills had inside information for they signed a coach who had been with Browns previous year and could see what Poyer was capable of. Sometimes inside information was wrong as when Bills signed Zay Jones' WR coach from college and he said he was the most prepared for NFL WR he has seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Bills had inside information for they signed a coach who had been with Browns previous year and could see what Poyer was capable of. Sometimes inside information was wrong as when Bills signed Zay Jones' WR coach from college and he said he was the most prepared for NFL WR he has seen. Yeah, but the fans didn't know about Poyer. I was pretty nervous going into the year with him as the starter. I was pretty confident and happy with Hyde. As for Zay Jones, he is doing pretty well now. Just took him awhile. But it goes to show that no draft pick is a 100% certainty. Doesn't matter what information you think you had. Edited March 9, 2023 by MJS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 Just now, MJS said: Yeah, but the fans didn't know about Poyer. I was pretty nervous going into the year with him as the starter. I was pretty confident and happy with Hyde. As for Zay Jones, he is doing pretty well now. Just took him awhile. But it goes to show that no draft pick is a 100% certainty. Doesn't matter what information you think you had. The issue with Zay Jones was his college coach was not capable of raising his game. The coach has bounced between NFL and college and never established himself. When Coach McD was building his staff there were slim pickings and he should have kept SOME of Rex's staff for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 32 minutes ago, MJS said: I know Green Bay fans were sad to lose him. It was pretty well known that Hyde would be a good player. Poyer was the big surprise. for whatever reason I saw a lot of browns games the year before Poyer came here. Iirc he got hurt and didn't finish the season(I think against us). Every game I was like who is 21 he's everywhere 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 14 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: for whatever reason I saw a lot of browns games the year before Poyer came here. Iirc he got hurt and didn't finish the season(I think against us). Every game I was like who is 21 he's everywhere Interesting. I had never even heard of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 2 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I remember watching him earlier in his career in GB and thinking “man, this guy just makes plays”. So glad we signed him and he’s definitely proven that wasn’t a fluke. A lot of fans myself included loved his acquisition in 2017. He was the only real "big name" signing that off-season for the Bills who seemingly only signed him, a kicker in Haush, and some no named safety named Poyer. Obviously, we didn't know what they had in Poyer and the overall strategy of staying mostly flexible in the coming seasons until a QB was in place. But Hyde was the acquisition that all of the fans loved, hoping he has one more good season in him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 He is arguably the best safety in football and unfortunately he won’t get to play next year with his sidekick but I have no doubt he will be just fine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think Hyde has such a huge grasp on things/life in general Wow, gunna miss Micah alot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Wow, gunna miss Micah alot. i think there are many we going to miss in next 5 years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Stats if you wish to compare Poyer's and Hyde's careers so far. https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=HydeMi00&player_id1=PoyeJo00&sum=0&request=1&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_source=pfr&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=PoyeJo00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Hyde was a huge loss when he went out. More than Von Miller imo. His ability to run the complicated defensive scheme was invaluable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryPinC Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 hours ago, MJS said: Interesting. I had never even heard of him. Well, it is the Browns. Living here in Cleveland, I remember watching Poyer and he was a solid player but he really blossomed after joining the Bills. Kind of our equalizer for Wyatt Teller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 hours ago, Limeaid said: I agree on Hyde. Very intelligent and well spoken and unlike some ex-athletes who work in broadcasting does not sound like he is speaking with marbles in his mouth. He was my top free agent (a fan of Packers) and was advocating him being signed before free agency opened. Packers knew what that had with him but not what he could become. Or just yelling all the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 14 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said: i think there are many we going to miss in next 5 years With this group, the only guys I would truly miss are Josh and Diggs. Sure we have good players beyond that, but they are all replaceable, even Milano, whom I love. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: With this group, the only guys I would truly miss are Josh and Diggs. Sure we have good players beyond that, but they are all replaceable, even Milano, whom I love. Pretty much agree. The only guys who truly affect Championship aspirations, on an individual level, are QB, WR and Pass Rusher. A collectively bad secondary… A collectively bad offensive line... Those things can affect aspirations, but not on an individual level. You can hide a weak link, you can scheme to strengths. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 20 hours ago, strive_for_five_guy said: I remember watching him earlier in his career in GB and thinking “man, this guy just makes plays”. So glad we signed him and he’s definitely proven that wasn’t a fluke. One of my all time favorite players to watch. I was pumped when we signed him. Felt the same about Beasley, just guys that make plays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fan_in_tx Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 19 hours ago, Limeaid said: Bills had inside information for they signed a coach who had been with Browns previous year and could see what Poyer was capable of. Sometimes inside information was wrong as when Bills signed Zay Jones' WR coach from college and he said he was the most prepared for NFL WR he has seen. Zay has found a home in the NFL and is an important part of the Jags 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 10, 2023 Author Share Posted March 10, 2023 This dude just knows football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 2:36 PM, MJS said: As for Zay Jones, he is doing pretty well now. Just took him awhile. But it goes to show that no draft pick is a 100% certainty. Doesn't matter what information you think you had. I think the Zay Jones issue was that his coach wasn’t an NFL level coach and didn’t know what he didn’t know IIRC he hasn’t been back in the NFL since. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: I think the Zay Jones issue was that his coach wasn’t an NFL level coach and didn’t know what he didn’t know IIRC he hasn’t been back in the NFL since. Zay came into the league soft and immature, in my opinion. He had to grow up and mature, and also learn how to play with an edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 36 minutes ago, MJS said: Zay came into the league soft and immature, in my opinion. He had to grow up and mature, and also learn how to play with an edge. No argument on those points. My point was with the value of the coach’s recommendation of him as “most NFL ready receiver”. I don’t think that particular coach had a basis to tell Edited March 10, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 10:15 AM, Limeaid said: I agree on Hyde. Very intelligent and well spoken and unlike some ex-athletes who work in broadcasting does not sound like he is speaking with marbles in his mouth. He was my top free agent (a fan of Packers) and was advocating him being signed before free agency opened. Packers knew what that had with him but not what he could become. Shannon Sharpe! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Beck Water said: No argument on those points. My point was with the value of the coach’s recommendation of him as “most NFL ready receiver”. I don’t think that particular coach had a basis to tell No it shows how bottom of barrel Coach McD went to select some coaches, especially on offense. I said at time it was mistake to sign him seeing coaching in Mijami. Philip P. McGeoghan coaching record: Maine (2007) - Wide receivers coach & tight ends coach Navy Prep (2008) - Offensive coordinator South Florida (2009–2011) - Wide receivers coach Miami Dolphins (2012–2014) - Assistant wide receivers coach Miami Dolphins (2015) - Wide receivers coach East Carolina (2016) - Wide receivers coach Buffalo Bills (2017) - Wide receivers coach Los Angeles Chargers (2018–2020) - Wide receivers coach Colorado (2022) - Wide receivers coach Sanjay Lal on other hand has been in demand ever since he was a NFL coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 On 3/9/2023 at 7:28 PM, Limeaid said: Stats if you wish to compare Poyer's and Hyde's careers so far. https://stathead.com/football/pcm_finder.cgi?player_id2=HydeMi00&player_id1=PoyeJo00&sum=0&request=1&utm_campaign=2023_01_wdgt_player_comparison&utm_source=pfr&utm_medium=sr_xsite&utm_id=PoyeJo00 Kind of surprised to see Poyer with the slight career stats advantage, given the difference in their pre-Bills circumstances. Hyde has more playoff success, but again he saw playoff action pre-Bills as a Packer. Such a luxury to have had them paired together since 2017, minus most of last season. A rare confluence of talent and coaching/scheme in the defensive backfield; the departures of Frazier and Poyer will mark the end of an era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 How come they never interviewed Leodis McKelvin in the studio? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 3 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: How come they never interviewed Leodis McKelvin in the studio? Couldn't find a qualified interpreter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Good to see a team leader openly say he loves it here: 1) On Buffalonians "Bills Mafia, everyone in Buffalo is truly amazing." 2) On McD handing the Hamlin in-game situation: "Sean... I have never seen a leader perform like that." 3) On the organization: "It really feels like a family." Nice, after recent distractions, to see a guy come straight out and be unequivocal about wanting to be here. I wish ever team leader was like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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