Jrb1979 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYBUUusD/ Seeing how the XFL does replay and how transparent they are is something the NFL needs to follow. 2 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Wont happen. Roger will never admit another league does it better 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYBUUusD/ Seeing how the XFL does replay and how transparent they are is something the NFL needs to follow. Somebody in the XFL watches Rugby. That's exactly how penalty replays in Rugby are handled; the ref, his assistants and the replay guy are all real time on live microphones. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Needs to be like my living room. Calls are made in 30 seconds or less. 4 1 1 10 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Needs to be like my living room. Calls are made in 30 seconds or less. ...and ALWAYS in the Bills favor 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 23 minutes ago, Jrb1979 said: https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMYBUUusD/ Seeing how the XFL does replay and how transparent they are is something the NFL needs to follow. Won’t change anything. That’s an easy one. Imagine them trying to figure out if he survived the ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 How about the one below? That’s an interception. Call reversed. Took me 2 seconds. XFL watched it over and over and called it a TD. Transparent or not, they still suck. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steptide Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 54 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: Wont happen. Roger will never admit another league does it better Roger is missing out on a potential cash cow. Now I'm not saying the xfl is great, but why the nfl isn't trying to capitalize on this is baffling to me. There's 32 nfl practice squads and thousands of former NFL players and undrafted free agents available to play. Why the nfl hasent tried to make this into a developmental league blows my mind. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: How about the one below? That’s an interception. Call reversed. Took me 2 seconds. XFL watched it over and over and called it a TD. Transparent or not, they still suck. Wow that's crazy.. Doesn't see enough lol.. clear int I do like the concept though of them being transparent. That dude should be fired though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 12 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: How about the one below? That’s an interception. Call reversed. Took me 2 seconds. XFL watched it over and over and called it a TD. Transparent or not, they still suck. Looks like simultaneous possession to me? Latimer has an arm around the ball all the way to the ground and when they roll over. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviF Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Steptide said: Roger is missing out on a potential cash cow. Now I'm not saying the xfl is great, but why the nfl isn't trying to capitalize on this is baffling to me. There's 32 nfl practice squads and thousands of former NFL players and undrafted free agents available to play. Why the nfl hasent tried to make this into a developmental league blows my mind. Despite all the noise to the contrary there’s really no evidence of sufficient demand for pro football outside of the NFL. And they already have a developmental league that doesn’t cost them a penny. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: How about the one below? That’s an interception. Call reversed. Took me 2 seconds. XFL watched it over and over and called it a TD. Transparent or not, they still suck. The defender has it initially, but if we use the "survived the ground" rule (assuming that's a thing in the XFL), then he lost possession upon hitting the ground. Since the ball didn't touch the ground and the receiver snatched it away, they gave it to the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WhoTom said: The defender has it initially, but if we use the "survived the ground" rule (assuming that's a thing in the XFL), then he lost possession upon hitting the ground. Since the ball didn't touch the ground and the receiver snatched it away, they gave it to the offense. Snatching away isn’t simultaneously catching the ball. The key to replay is not think about it too much. The WR didn’t get possession until the roll over on the ground. It’s not a simultaneous catch. Edited February 20, 2023 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said: ...and ALWAYS in the Bills favor 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, JerseyBills said: Wow that's crazy.. Doesn't see enough lol.. clear int I do like the concept though of them being transparent. That dude should be fired though Transparency is always better but that’s exactly what I thought went on. Someone reviewing and over analyzing the play. Make a decision and let’s go. I think the majority of people would call that an INT. That’s got to be the goal of officiating. Look at it quickly and make a decision. Part of me thinks the NFL likes the controversy. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Snatching away isn’t simultaneously catching the ball. The key to replay is not think about it too much. The WR didn’t get possession until the roll over on the ground. It’s not a simultaneous catch. I never said it was a simultaneous catch - I said the defender didn't maintain possession after hitting the ground, therefore it's not an interception. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 20, 2023 Author Share Posted February 20, 2023 24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Transparency is always better but that’s exactly what I thought went on. Someone reviewing and over analyzing the play. Make a decision and let’s go. I think the majority of people would call that an INT. That’s got to be the goal of officiating. Look at it quickly and make a decision. Part of me thinks the NFL likes the controversy. I agree they like the controversy but I also think they like it this way so they can keep playing favorites. I'm not saying they fix games but they do tend to give favorites the benefit of the doubt 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 It makes too much sense to be transparent and get every call right but the controversy of the officiating sells. I doubt they change it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 I also like the way the XFL allows anything to be challenged. Even penalties that weren’t called that the coach may think was a penalty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said: I also like the way the XFL allows anything to be challenged. Even penalties that weren’t called that the coach may think was a penalty. Eww. Don’t want that at all. I want less official involvement, not more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The most important point is this: can they put on commercials during the review process. That's the #1 benefit of the current system.... for the league. and TV stations. And let's be fair, the current system works for the most part. The controversial calls are the non reviewable ones. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 The reply situation is getting to be like free throws in basketball….do we we really want to sit there and watch that? It is becoming mind numbing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 13 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Wont happen. Roger will never admit another league does it better Why wont our gov't give back some of their over-reaching powers theyve took lol exactlyyyyyy that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Nah. Why kill the suspense as we anxiously wait for the commercials to be over? It's the same reason why they still use the chains to measure for a first down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 16 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Eww. Don’t want that at all. I want less official involvement, not more Referees missing calls is referee involvement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 The refs should have lifelines. Poll the fans, phone a friend, or 50/50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 48 minutes ago, Chaos said: Referees missing calls is referee involvement No it’s not. I hate the idea of reviewing penalties with a passion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 20 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Wont happen. Roger will never admit another league does it better LOL these leagues that can't stay solvent because no ones cares to watch their product sure "do it better" than the NFL. Anyway, these things aren't up to "Roger" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 19 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: How about the one below? That’s an interception. Call reversed. Took me 2 seconds. XFL watched it over and over and called it a TD. Transparent or not, they still suck. Naw, that was the correct call. No clear evidence to overturn. I was watching that game and I couldn't tell who had possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 34 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: No it’s not. I hate the idea of reviewing penalties with a passion. I am just guessing you never took a mathematics or philosophy course in Logic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 20 hours ago, GolfandBills said: Wont happen. Roger will never admit another league does it better Quite the opposite. The NFL has development deals for officials with the both the XFL and USFL. They are watching to see how these rule tweaks work out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strethor Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 The XFL is differentiating itself by doing things the NFL will never do to spark interest.. This is definitely one area where that is the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 19 hours ago, Steptide said: Roger is missing out on a potential cash cow. Now I'm not saying the xfl is great, but why the nfl isn't trying to capitalize on this is baffling to me. There's 32 nfl practice squads and thousands of former NFL players and undrafted free agents available to play. Why the nfl hasent tried to make this into a developmental league blows my mind. Because they don't want the additional liability for CTE for a bunch of minor leaguers on top their own players. The NFL is completely fine with separate spring leagues. 19 hours ago, JerseyBills said: Wow that's crazy.. Doesn't see enough lol.. clear int I do like the concept though of them being transparent. That dude should be fired though That dude is Dean Blandino. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 Transparency is great but in the age of social media, how over analyzed is every word and statement going to be? God forbid the official incorrectly states something, people will be off the rails. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Transparency is great but in the age of social media, how over analyzed is every word and statement going to be? God forbid the official incorrectly states something, people will be off the rails. The NFL is already doing a version of this called "sky judge." They just don't put them on camera. How many times has a call been reversed without a challenge flag? That's sky judge doing a quick review and buzzing the refs on the field. For something obvious it takes a few seconds. Edited February 21, 2023 by PromoTheRobot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 29 minutes ago, Chaos said: I am just guessing you never took a mathematics or philosophy course in Logic. I don’t want them stopping games to review missed penalties. Terrible idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 21 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Needs to be like my living room. Calls are made in 30 seconds or less. Anybody can get it wrong in 30 seconds without million person audience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 21, 2023 Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: Because they don't want the additional liability for CTE for a bunch of minor leaguers on top their own players. The NFL is completely fine with separate spring leagues. That dude is Dean Blandino. Has nothing to do with CTE (?). The NFL doesn't want to get too close to these bogus leagues so as to keep their stink off them. They know what everyone else can see--these leagues are bereft of talent and therefore no viewership and therefore are doomed . Every "developmental league" has folded, some multiple times. The NFL is the undisputed pro sports king---and untouchable broadcast leader for all TV content. Why would they want to be closely associated with these celebrity vanity products? They always have had the "developmental league that suits their purposes perfectly. They don't need this stuff. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted February 21, 2023 Author Share Posted February 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Has nothing to do with CTE (?). The NFL doesn't want to get too close to these bogus leagues so as to keep their stink off them. They know what everyone else can see--these leagues are bereft of talent and therefore no viewership and therefore are doomed . Every "developmental league" has folded, some multiple times. The NFL is the undisputed pro sports king---and untouchable broadcast leader for all TV content. Why would they want to be closely associated with these celebrity vanity products? They always have had the "developmental league that suits their purposes perfectly. They don't need this stuff. They may not want to get too close to these "bogus leagues" as you call them but they have no issue taking things from them. The "eye in the sky" from the original XFL. I hope they take this review idea and are transparent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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