NFL Week #18 - Patriots* @ Bills - Post Game Thread

[PatsFanNH]

7 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

Pats fans all blaming the refs on the internet it seems…which is genuinely puzzling.  They missed a few calls both ways 

Really? I’m blaming our Special teams for the loss.. I mean the refs missed two obvious penalties (the off side by Buffalo on the Pats 3rd possession. To make it 2nd and 14 and the obvious PI in the end zone on Buffalo) but I don’t think they decided the game.. I mean I was ticked when they missed them at the time but I was more upset like I said with the special teams play than the refs. 

[Straight Hucklebuck]

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/nfl-playoffs-2023-final-seeding-bracket-matchups-wild-card-weekend?amp
 

These guys still talking about culture.

 

It’s not a culture or Patriot way problem, the Patriots have no skill players that make plays and a check down QB.

 

They’re stuck in 2001 trying to compete in 2023 football. 

[Steptide]

7 minutes ago, BananaB said:

20 years of getting all the calls go their way has evened itself out already 

There's this narrative on Twitter that the nfl is pushing the bills to the superbowl, which is shocking to me cuz I don't feel like the bills have had that mant calls go their way 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Really? I’m blaming our Special teams for the loss.. I mean the refs missed two obvious penalties (the off side by Buffalo on the Pats 3rd possession. To make it 2nd and 14 and the obvious PI in the end zone on Buffalo) but I don’t think they decided the game.. I mean I was ticked when they missed them at the time but I was more upset like I said with the special teams play than the refs. 

You’re one of the good ones 😁

[HurlyBurly51]

28 minutes ago, Simon said:

 

Awesome.

Are you the drunk guy in the blue coat? 

 

 

17 minutes ago, BuffaloBaumer said:

That was me but I had only had two beers. 🤣

It actually was him - I recognize you Josh!

[WideNine]

11 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

NOBODY smoked them like Leodis McKelvin!! Totally shocked me

 

Leodis....

 

I was at the Vikes game where Moats knocked Favre out of the NFL.

 

The backup QB came in and smoked Leodis over and over. He should have been his own brand of cigarettes.

 

 

 

 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

Just now, Steptide said:

There's this narrative on Twitter that the nfl is pushing the bills to the superbowl, which is shocking to me cuz I don't feel like the bills have had that mant calls go their way 

That was a very strange chop block call then today which could’ve had a huge impact on the game 😂.  

[GolfandBills]

1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

That was a very strange chop block call then today which could’ve had a huge impact on the game 😂.  

That call was horrendous 

[K-9]

3 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

https://www.nbcsports.com/boston/patriots/nfl-playoffs-2023-final-seeding-bracket-matchups-wild-card-weekend?amp
 

These guys still talking about culture.

 

It’s not a culture or Patriot way problem, the Patriots have no skill players that make plays and a check down QB.

 

They’re stuck in 2001 trying to compete in 2023 football. 

They had several players making plays today, especially their QB. Of course, doing it in crunch time is a different matter entirely. But I thought Jones and his receivers played pretty well.

[Ya Digg?]

8 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Really? I’m blaming our Special teams for the loss.. I mean the refs missed two obvious penalties (the off side by Buffalo on the Pats 3rd possession. To make it 2nd and 14 and the obvious PI in the end zone on Buffalo) but I don’t think they decided the game.. I mean I was ticked when they missed them at the time but I was more upset like I said with the special teams play than the refs. 

Which PI in the end zone? The Offside was bad, but I don’t remember a ply in the end zone that was questionable 

[VaMilBill]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

Which PI in the end zone? The Offside was bad, but I don’t remember a ply in the end zone that was questionable 

Think he’s talking about to the Milano face guarding penalty

[Ya Digg?]

4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

That was a very strange chop block call then today which could’ve had a huge impact on the game 😂.  

That was a really bad call-Dawkins wasn’t even remotely engaged with the guy, Cook was blocking him 1 on 1

[Simon]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

Which PI in the end zone? The Offside was bad, but I don’t remember a ply in the end zone that was questionable 

 

Milano could have been called for one with some early handfighting

[K-9]

1 minute ago, Ya Digg? said:

Which PI in the end zone? The Offside was bad, but I don’t remember a ply in the end zone that was questionable 

I’m guessing it was the Milano pass breakup, but it wasn’t PI so they need to get over it.

[Straight Hucklebuck]

3 minutes ago, K-9 said:

They had several players making plays today, especially their QB. Of course, doing it in crunch time is a different matter entirely. But I thought Jones and his receivers played pretty well.

Again, it’s 2023, Jakobi Meyers is your #1 WR. 

[PatsFanNH]

Just now, Ya Digg? said:

Which PI in the end zone? The Offside was bad, but I don’t remember a ply in the end zone that was questionable 

The one on second down that happened after the Bills fumbled the ball back to NE (after Jones got picked by White) the CB never looked back and clearly interfered (IMO obviously) with the WR.  Like I said it didn’t change the outcome. At best the score ends up 35-28 bills.. (at best!)

[Buffalo Bills Fan]

10 minutes ago, KHAN said:

Looks like Bob gets no happy ending today.

 

 

Myself have some respect for Bill and Kraft . Bill Belichick helped talked to McDermott and Kraft donated to Hamlin gofundme page.  Just thankful people helped each other, supported Hamlin,  and gave thoughts and prayers for Hamlin. No longer have any hate for them myself.

[Playoffs?]

8 minutes ago, Steptide said:

There's this narrative on Twitter that the nfl is pushing the bills to the superbowl, which is shocking to me cuz I don't feel like the bills have had that mant calls go their way 

Of course they haven’t.. but every person that is not a Bills fan will push this narrative. 

[K-9]

1 minute ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

Again, it’s 2023, Jakobi Meyers is your #1 WR. 

Be that as it may, they made plays today. How they’ve done previously or how they’ll do in the future is not relevant to the point I’m making about their performance today. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

7 minutes ago, K-9 said:

They had several players making plays today, especially their QB. Of course, doing it in crunch time is a different matter entirely. But I thought Jones and his receivers played pretty well.

Yeah he was awesome with his 3 picks, 75.9 Rating and 6.1/attempt. You must be impacted by Romo gushing about him today. I hope we see him for another decade.

[Ralonzo]

14 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Really? I’m blaming our Special teams for the loss.. I mean the refs missed two obvious penalties (the off side by Buffalo on the Pats 3rd possession. To make it 2nd and 14 and the obvious PI in the end zone on Buffalo) but I don’t think they decided the game.. I mean I was ticked when they missed them at the time but I was more upset like I said with the special teams play than the refs. 

 

Corresponding missed call was the face mask on Allen on a 3rd down which would have extended the first drive. Refs suck, it's what they do. They only team they seem to consistently help anymore is the Chiefs.

[BRH]

20 minutes ago, BananaB said:

20 years of getting all the calls go their way has evened itself out already 

After one 50/50 call where we got the benefit, I turned to my son and said “only 499 more to go and then we’ll be even.”

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

the CB never looked back and clearly interfered (IMO obviously) with the WR.

 

It was a LB and there is no rule saying he has to look back for the ball; he was playing the receivers hands, which is legal if you're not too early.

[PatsFanNH]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

It was a LB and there is no rule saying he has to look back for the ball; he was playing the receivers hands, which is legal if you're not too early.

He looked early to me.. again I’m biased and just an opinion

[billybob71]

9 minutes ago, K-9 said:

I’m guessing it was the Milano pass breakup, but it wasn’t PI so they need to get over it.

if you watch replay of opening kick return looks like #39 cam lewis could have been called for holding 

Edited January 9, 2023 by billybob71

[BRH]

1 minute ago, Simon said:

 

It was a LB and there is no rule saying he has to look back for the ball; he was playing the receivers hands, which is legal if you're not too early.

I thought Milano got there a shade early.  But as I said above, long way to go before they even out. 

[WideNine]

1 hour ago, Boatdrinks said:

Okay, yeah. Im Sure Dawson Knox will be Bills all - time leading TE at some point. 

 

Yup.

 

If he stays healthy and has Allen as his QB he will pass that mark.

 

 

 

[K-9]

Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Yeah he was awesome with his 3 picks, 75.9 Rating and 6.1/attempt. You must be impacted by Romo gushing about him today. I hope we see him for another decade.

FFS, did he make some plays or not? Which is all I said. Period. If being honest about a few plays sounds to you like I’m saying he’s a first ballot HOFer, you are sadly mistaken. Impacted by Romo? LMFAO! 

[balln]

2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Corresponding missed call was the face mask on Allen on a 3rd down which would have extended the first drive. Refs suck, it's what they do. They only team they seem to consistently help anymore is the Chiefs.

Horse collar and face mask same play 

 

and on the int - Allen was crushed in the knees that mahommes and Brady get that call 10/10 times

[John from Riverside]

5 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

Of course they haven’t.. but every person that is not a Bills fan will push this narrative. 

The refs called a 15 yard penalty today for supposedly cutting and engaged player whenever the ol didn’t even touch him

 

The bill still Dug their way out on that serious but that doesn’t change the fact that they called it

[Simon]

Just now, PatsFanNH said:

He looked early to me.. again I’m biased and just an opinion

 

It was definitely right on the edge; I wouldn't have argued very hard for or against a call either way.

[BRH]

1 minute ago, billybob71 said:

if you watch replay of opening kick return looks like #39 cam lewis could have been called for holding if they wanted to be picky

Refs knew better than to call that.  Could you imagine?  It would have had to be blatant. 

[PatsFanNH]

2 minutes ago, Ralonzo said:

 

Corresponding missed call was the face mask on Allen on a 3rd down which would have extended the first drive. Refs suck, it's what they do. They only team they seem to consistently help anymore is the Chiefs.

I missed the first 2 drives both teams…  my sons basketball game was still going on so I just saw it on bleacher report.. 

[Not at the table Karlos]

1 minute ago, balln said:

Horse collar and face mask same play 

 

and on the int - Allen was crushed in the knees that mahommes and Brady get that call 10/10 times

Not a penalty when QB is in pocket. 

[BRH]

There was a play where Mac slid and got hit by two Bills.  No flag.  Mac got up and said something to the ref as he walked past.  He knows his reputation isn’t doing him any favors. 

[K-9]

1 minute ago, billybob71 said:

if you watch replay of opening kick return looks like #39 cam lewis could have been called for holding if they wanted to be picky

Refs missed calls on both sides. They also made at least one egregious call on the cut block penalty. Bottom line is that blaming the refs is a time honored loser’s lament. 

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

I missed the first 2 drives both teams…  my sons basketball game was still going on so I just saw it on bleacher report.. 

 

Taken in toto I didn't really have agita about the refs this game. They didn't blatantly screw on side or the other. The missed calls and bad calls seemed to even out which is all anyone can really hope for.

[Not at the table Karlos]

2 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

I missed the first 2 drives both teams…  my sons basketball game was still going on so I just saw it on bleacher report.. 

You missed pats holding like crazy, the refs pointing at it and not throwing a flag. 

[balln]

1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said:

Not a penalty when QB is in pocket. 

Really ?!!?! Why- my dad was saying something like I bet you can horse collar in pocket. That makes no sense….

[PatsFanNH]

Just now, K-9 said:

Refs missed calls on both sides. They also made at least one egregious call on the cut block penalty. Bottom line is that blaming the refs is a time honored loser’s lament. 

The hold on Andrews was meh too.. and the refs called nothing for 3 quarters so obviously they missed a bunch both ways no team is perfect that long lol.