Tank the Pats game?

[Protocal69]

16 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

I believe if Pats win Dolphins are out?

Yes that is correct

[Shemp]

I'd like to see Josh Allen ride the pine on Sunday. Rest up the ankle, rest up the elbow. The Pats' defense is rough and Allen needs time to heal. The big tests are coming soon.

[JerseyBills]

Let's go Raiders!! 

KC just got by Hou/Den 

LV should be highly motivated.  Ya never know 

We basically rested our guys last week so even if it were meaningless I think they play the majority of the gm

 

[Warriorspikes51]

14 minutes ago, Blah Blah said:

I'd like to see Josh Allen ride the pine on Sunday. Rest up the ankle, rest up the elbow. The Pats' defense is rough and Allen needs time to heal. The big tests are coming soon.

 

Raiders win and Josh can go get than time to heal...

[T master]

On 1/5/2023 at 4:11 PM, GolfandBills said:

No this is stupid.  If they have to win to get 1 or 2 seed you play to win 

 

 

[billybob71]

rest em

[Johnnycage46]

Give them a half, then rest them.  Need all the rest they can get.

[Zerovoltz]

IF the Bills tank the Pats game, and lose....and then if KC and BIlls in AFCG, that game would NOT be at nuetral site.  It would be in KC.

[John from Riverside]

So my question is if the bills lose tomorrow what does that do about having a neutral site game against the Kansas City Chiefs later on in the playoffs should they advance? I think that’s important here

 

edit, never mind I see the question was answered

Edited January 8, 2023 by John from Riverside

[Nextmanup]

4 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Give them a half, then rest them.  Need all the rest they can get.

That's the move that makes no sense to me.  What would the logic be there?

 

Either you want to rest them, or you want to win the game.  

 

It should be a rest all game or none at all type analysis.

 

 

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

Give them a half, then rest them.  Need all the rest they can get.

A win tomorrow and Buffalo's path to the Super Bowl will be two home playoff games and either a home or neutral site championship game. A loss and the Bills will have only one home playoff game and then likely go to Cincinnati & then KC. 

 

There is no way resting Allen and others is more valuable then playing them and beating NE to secure a much more favorable road to the Super Bowl.  I can't imagine why any Bills fan would advocate resting players and potentially not beating NE.  I can see why NE fans would advocate this approach.

 

 

 

 

 

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, Nextmanup said:

That's the move that makes no sense to me.  What would the logic be there?

 

Either you want to rest them, or you want to win the game.  

 

It should be a rest all game or none at all type analysis.

 

 

 

With the upheaval of the MNF game, I think the players do need the routine of getting ready for the game, playing, etc.  But I wouldn't risk injury to key players against a desperate Patriots team for the whole game.  Maybe even bench them after the 1st quarter.

[billybob71]

rest em and beat NE with backups, bye week and neutral site... boom

Edited January 8, 2023 by billybob71

[CincyBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

So my question is if the bills lose tomorrow what does that do about having a neutral site game against the Kansas City Chiefs later on in the playoffs should they advance? I think that’s important here

 

edit, never mind I see the question was answered

If the Bills lose they go to Cincy in round 2 and then go to KC in round 3.  It's utter insanity to rest players and not go all out to win this game.  IMO a win is more critical for Buffalo then NE as the Bills have genuine Super Bowl aspirations.  All NE is trying to do is squeak into the playoffs where they are likely to go one and out.

 

 

[Johnnycage46]

4 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

A win tomorrow and Buffalo's path to the Super Bowl will be two home playoff games and either a home or neutral site championship game. A loss and the Bills will have only one home playoff game and then likely go to Cincinnati & then KC. 

 

There is no way resting Allen and others is more valuable then playing them and beating NE to secure a much more favorable road to the Super Bowl.  I can't imagine why any Bills fan would advocate resting players and potentially not beating NE.  I can see why NE fans would advocate this approach.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cincy could also still lose to Balt giving the Bills the 2 seed without having to win.  Losing more key players to injury basically means a likely one and done the in the playoffs.  We HAD depth to begin the season, but our depth is now starting games...we don't have much left in the well player-wise if we sustain more injuries.

Edited January 8, 2023 by Johnnycage46

[frostbitmic]

Take a 28 - 0 lead at the half and sit our stars the rest of the game.

[Success]

Heck no - and they won't.

 

This team is going to come out tomorrow w/ everything they've got.

 

[jkeerie]

2 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Cincy could also still lose to Balt giving the Bills the 2 seed without having to win.  Losing more key players to injury basically means a likely one and done the in the playoffs.  We HAD depth to begin the season, but our depth is now starting games...we don't have much left in the well player-wise if we sustain more injuries.

Do you really expect Cincy to lose to the Ravens with Huntley at QB?

[CincyBillsFan]

Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Cincy could also still lose to Balt giving the Bills the 2 seed without having to win.  Losing more key players to injury basically means a likely one and done the in the playoffs.  We HAD depth to being the season, but I depth is now starting games...we don't have much left in the well player-wise if we sustain more injuries.

We are healthier now then we've been since the early part of the season.  And you're dreaming if you think Baltimore will beat Cincy tomorrow.

 

Serious question - are you a Bills fan?  I'm asking because there is nothing to gain if you rest players and we lose to NE. And I don't see us beating NE if we rest Allen and other key players.  Given what we stand to lose (a 2nd round home playoff game & a neutral site Championship game) it's insane to advocate that the Bills rest players tomorrow.

 

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

10 minutes ago, Zerovoltz said:

IF the Bills tank the Pats game, and lose....and then if KC and BIlls in AFCG, that game would NOT be at nuetral site.  It would be in KC.

I like our chances more in KC to be honest. Don’t like the idea of neutral field. 
 

that said, no way the Bills don’t play to win tomorrow. More important is not having to play the Bengals in Cincinnati. At this point I fear the devil we don’t know (Bengals and Chargers) more than the devil we know in the Chiefs. Bills have showed repeatedly they can beat the Chiefs. On the other hand, they have no experience against the Bengals and Chiefs.

[Johnnycage46]

1 minute ago, CincyBillsFan said:

We are healthier now then we've been since the early part of the season.  And you're dreaming if you think Baltimore will beat Cincy tomorrow.

 

Serious question - are you a Bills fan?  I'm asking because there is nothing to gain if you rest players and we lose to NE. And I don't see us beating NE if we rest Allen and other key players.  Given what we stand to lose (a 2nd round home playoff game & a neutral site Championship game) it's insane to advocate that the Bills rest players tomorrow.

 

 

 

Uh-oh, the old "are you even a fan" question.  Yep, been a fan for 35 years.  Are you a Bills fan?  Serious question.

[Hermes]

Gross. Anyone who thinks the Bills should do anything other than dominate the pats is a F***ng coward 

[Johnnycage46]

4 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

Do you really expect Cincy to lose to the Ravens with Huntley at QB?

 

Expect?  Not sure.  Baltimore is an extremely well-coached team.  Obviously a huge drop off with Huntley, but it's a division game.  Who knows.  How much money are you putting on Cincy to win?

[jkeerie]

Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Expect?  Not sure.  Baltimore is an extremely well-coached team.  Obviously a huge drop off with Huntley, but it's a division game.  Who knows.  How much money are you putting on Cincy to win?

I don't bet on anything.  The game is in Cincy and they are playing with a huge chip on their shoulders feeling they got the short end of the stick with the playoff rule changes.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

14 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

  I can't imagine why any Bills fan would advocate resting players and potentially not beating NE.  I can see why NE fans would advocate this approach.

 

 

 

 

 

while I agree we need to beat the patriots tomorrow, none of those reasons why we need to beat them has anything to do with our future wild card match up. Because that wild card game is the one and only reason why I would consider resting players. I would rather play the talentless Patriots every time over a team that has proven they can hang with the Bills in the Dolphins. 

[galept]

Nothing like a loss going into playoffs to lift everyone's spirits and build momentum.

 

Play to win, and play hard. Do not mess with the mojo.

[jkeerie]

Just now, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

while I agree we need to beat the patriots tomorrow, none of those reasons why we need to beat them has anything to do with our future wild card match up. Because that wild card game is the one and only reason why I would consider resting players. I would rather play the talentless Patriots every time over a team that has proven they can hang with the Bills in the Dolphins. 

But if we lose and Cincy wins, we are the 3 seed and would not play the Pats.  

[Johnnycage46]

5 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I don't bet on anything.  The game is in Cincy and they are playing with a huge chip on their shoulders feeling they got the short end of the stick with the playoff rule changes.

 

Right, but that's my point.  If it's such a sure thing, you should bet a ton of money on it.  Which people probably won't...because anything can happen.  All I'm saying is, injuries/attrition/wear and tear are huge issues with this team right now (even if we are currently more healthy than we've been), one injury to any key player and we are probably screwed as we have no depth anymore.  I think without the bye week, resting some guys tomorrow is probably more valuable than being the 2 seed vs. the 3 seed.

3 minutes ago, galept said:

Nothing like a loss going into playoffs to lift everyone's spirits and build momentum.

 

Play to win, and play hard. Do not mess with the mojo.

 

What mojo?

[CincyBillsFan]

5 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

while I agree we need to beat the patriots tomorrow, none of those reasons why we need to beat them has anything to do with our future wild card match up. Because that wild card game is the one and only reason why I would consider resting players. I would rather play the talentless Patriots every time over a team that has proven they can hang with the Bills in the Dolphins. 

The road to the Super Bowl is a lot tougher if it's through first Cincinnati and then KC.  A win tomorrow and we avoid both scenarios.

 

 

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

4 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

But if we lose and Cincy wins, we are the 3 seed and would not play the Pats.  

you are correct. Likely cincy would win.

 

however I think I would still prefer a date with Baltimore over Miami in that scenario as well. Assuming Tua is playing for Miami. Just too much speed at wr and rb on that Miami team. But that is a close one because I think the Ravens do have the much better defense.

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Right, but that's my point.  If it's such a sure thing, you should bet a ton of money on it.  Which people probably won't...because anything can happen.  All I'm saying is, injuries/attrition/wear and tear are huge issues with this team right now (even if we are currently more healthy than we've been), one injury to any key player and we are probably screwed as we have no depth anymore.  I think without the bye week, resting some guys tomorrow is probably more valuable than being the 2 seed vs. the 3 seed.

The Bills have no control over what happens in the Cincy game.  They control only their game and their play.  You don't want to risk injury but those same injuries can happen any time...like the first quarter of a playoff game.  I think the Bills would rather have the 2 seed.

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

The road to the Super Bowl is a lot tougher if it's through first Cincinnati and then KC.  A win tomorrow and we avoid both scenarios.

 

 

I agree just giving you the one reason to consider it. I really don’t want anything to do with Miami in the wild card if Tua is playing. Patriots would be a dream scenario.

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

you are correct. Likely cincy would win.

 

however I think I would still prefer a date with Baltimore over Miami in that scenario as well. Assuming Tua is playing for Miami. Just too much speed at wr and rb on that Miami team. But that is a close one because I think the Ravens do have the much better defense.

I don't think we're going to see Tua.  However they do expect Lamar Jackson back for the wildcard game.

[CincyBillsFan]

16 minutes ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

Uh-oh, the old "are you even a fan" question.  Yep, been a fan for 35 years.  Are you a Bills fan?  Serious question.

I'm not being a jerk here.  I'm truly astounded that a Bills fan would advocate resting players tomorrow and risk falling to a three seed.  I see NO advantage to this at all.  The path to the Super Bowl as a 3 seed is much more difficult then as a 2 seed.  IMO the week of rest doesn't come close to compensating for falling to the 3rd seed.

 

 

 

 

[rajinka]

16 minutes ago, galept said:

Nothing like a loss going into playoffs to lift everyone's spirits and build momentum.

 

Play to win, and play hard. Do not mess with the mojo.

Agreed if we don't play tomorrow it'll be like 3 week break between games.  Need to get on our A game and momentum heading into playoffs

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

10 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I don't think we're going to see Tua.  However they do expect Lamar Jackson back for the wildcard game.

If Tua isn’t back then sign me up for Miami. I think he will be back though.

[StHustle]

This whole idea makes zero sense 🤦🏾‍♂️

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

If Tua isn’t back then sign me up for Miami. I think he will be back though.

I think Tua may be done for the year.  They're not even giving updates about his recent concussion.  They talk about Bridgewater and Thompson.

[nedboy7]

This team tank? 

You kidding me? 

[Kiva]

28 minutes ago, galept said:

Nothing like a loss going into playoffs to lift everyone's spirits and build momentum.

 

Play to win, and play hard. Do not mess with the mojo.

Didn’t the nfl decide not finish the bengals game because of bad mojo?  You may not realize yet but this season has completely off the rails. We need to mess with the mojo to get back on track.  Mojo isn’t even real anyways, it’s a magical power.  Lol