When will the doubters learn? First NFL team to win 3 road games in 12 days…

[nosejob]

2 hours ago, hemma said:

Quesenberry could barely stand up, let alone block.

 

If Dawkins & Quesenberry are both out next week because of the current ankle plague, I hope they promote Alec Andersen from the PS.  He moves his feet well enough + has good balance.

Remembering the talk I heard on OBL during camp , he projects as a Guard and was given a lot of praise, specifically at RG. In this scenario, I would line up Brown at LT, moves Bates out and put Anderson at RG.

[Shaw66]

2 hours ago, hemma said:

Our offense just beat a supposedly superior defense with what essentially was 10 players.

 

You win an away game by 14, when playing 10 on 11, you’re about to go on a run.

 

 

I didn't watch Quessenbery all night long, but I don't think I've seen a lineman be so completely ineffective on a whole series of plays as he was last night.   It's amazing that the Pats couldn't find a way to take better advantage.  It did truly seem like 10 on 11.  

[nosejob]

2 hours ago, hemma said:

UCLA UDFA Rookie.  Looked good throughout preseason. 

6'5 315?

[LabattBlue]

4 hours ago, eball said:

Go ahead, start “homer-shaming” me…but you all know who you are.  “This is wrong, that is wrong, the Bills don’t scare anyone, the offense doesn’t have talent beyond Allen/Diggs, the D stinks, the coaching is suspect, blah, blah, blah…”

 

Three road wins.  12 days.  A blizzard.  Injuries.  Doubters.

 

Can’t wait for the “there’s no way we’ll slow down Miami’s speed” threads next week.

 

Suck it. I love this team.

 

17 and 3, BABY!!!

 

At least you admit to “homer posting”. 😂

[The Wiz]

13 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

  

 

You do realize that almost every team that plays on a Thursday is playing their 3rd game in 12 days.........Sunday to Sunday to Thursday = 12.  

 

I don't know if the person who ginned that up was just trolling Bills fans but it's funny how many people ran with it. 

 

 

 

   

Also, technically not a "road" game vs cle since we were the home team even though we didn't play at home. 

 

Is the Super Bowl considered an away/road game?

[hemma]

46 minutes ago, nosejob said:

6'5 315?

Might be a little lighter than that, but that’ a good ballpark.

[T master]

3 hours ago, hemma said:

Quesenberry could barely stand up, let alone block.

 

If Dawkins & Quesenberry are both out next week because of the current ankle plague, I hope they promote Alec Andersen from the PS.  He moves his feet well enough + has good balance.

 

Don't forget although it is probably to soon but Ike is back in the building so hopefully if he gets back to near 100% that will be a plus for the O line depth he was playing well last year & could probably help if needed .

 

Quess definitely gutted it out last night !!

Edited December 2, 2022 by T master

[BADOLBILZ]

55 minutes ago, The Wiz said:

Also, technically not a "road" game vs cle since we were the home team even though we didn't play at home. 

 

Is the Super Bowl considered an away/road game?

 

 

Yeah if it's a road game for the opponent as well........it's not a road game..........it's a neutral site game.........like the Super Bowl.

 

And the flight to Detroit is like 40 minutes.   To Boston is like an hour.   The travel aspect was insignificant.

 

In fact, they got two controlled environment games during flu season and a pleasant evening weather game in New England.

 

The hyperbole is out of control.    If they had lost any of those games it would have been a huge disappointment.

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

2 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

“So the excuses the Bills are somehow more injured than every other team needs to stop.”

 

Recognize this?

It’s pretty funny to me that the first game we have a similar amount of injuries compared to other teams is a blowout road win against a division rival.  It’s almost like having an absurd amount of injuries does matter lol

 

 

[AuntieEm]

5 hours ago, Southern_Bills said:

Also the first team to win 3 Thursday night games in a season. But hey we are 9-3 and lucky if we make the playoffs, just ask around, they will tell you.

 

   I believe it's the first team in NFL history to win all 3 Thanksgiving day time slot games.  They added the 3rd time slot in 2006 so only teams from 2006 onward are used to get that record.  Now I'm sure there are a number of teams who haven't played each timeslot of Thanksgiving day games, so this is one more a fun fact than a record.  Just my opinion can't have a record category if not all teams can qualify to set the record.  It's surprising that Detroit or Dallas haven't been first teams to accomplish it as they play every Thanksgiving day.  

 

 

   Edit:   Yea it's also only team to win 3 Thursday night games in a season.  I had forgotten the Rams  nfl kickoff game was on Thursday night as well.

Edited December 2, 2022 by AuntieEm

[eball]

1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

  

 

You do realize that almost every team that plays on a Thursday is playing their 3rd game in 12 days.........Sunday to Sunday to Thursday = 12.  

 

I don't know if the person who ginned that up was just trolling Bills fans but it's funny how many people ran with it. 

 

 

 

   

True, but a couple of key differences. Those teams typically have full practice weeks before games 1-2. The Bills had two practices. And second, all three were on the road. 
 

It’s a big deal. 

 

Edited December 2, 2022 by eball

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

8 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

Yeah if it's a road game for the opponent as well........it's not a road game..........it's a neutral site game.........like the Super Bowl.

 

And the flight to Detroit is like 40 minutes.   To Boston is like an hour.   The travel aspect was insignificant.

 

In fact, they got two controlled environment games during flu season and a pleasant evening weather game in New England.

 

The hyperbole is out of control.    If they had lost any of those games it would have been a huge disappointment.

The travel aspect was insignificant?  Haha they had to get shoveled out of 6 feet of snow to even make it to the flight 😂 and they had to cancel practices leading up to it.  
 

that’s the big thing for me, bills hardly practiced the first two games of that 3 game stretch. It’s not really about nitpicking over what’s a road game and what’s not imo 

[Gugny]

3 minutes ago, eball said:

True, but a couple of key differences. Those teams typically have full practice weeks before games 1-2. The Bills had two practices. And second, all three were on the road. 
 

It’s a big deal. 

 

 

Why are you even bothering with this guy?

[BADOLBILZ]

13 minutes ago, eball said:

True, but a couple of key differences. Those teams typically have full practice weeks before games 1-2. The Bills had two practices. And second, all three were on the road. 
 

It’s a big deal. 

 

 

 

So we have negotiated it down from "unprecedented" to "a big deal"?  

 

If there was even one game in that batch where they weren't a significant favorite to win.........then it might have been "a big deal".

 

They were actually fortunate that they got these 3 overmatched opponents at the tail end of their annual mid-season malaise.    Allen versus Goff/Brissett/Mack10 should be 3-0 every time.

 

They took care of business and didn't let missing a couple practices lead to an upset loss after being upset in two consecutive games.........that's the reality.

[BADOLBILZ]

18 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

The travel aspect was insignificant?  Haha they had to get shoveled out of 6 feet of snow to even make it to the flight 😂 and they had to cancel practices leading up to it.  
 

that’s the big thing for me, bills hardly practiced the first two games of that 3 game stretch. It’s not really about nitpicking over what’s a road game and what’s not imo 

 

 

You act like these guys had to dig their own walkways to the airport and got in just before game time.    They got picked up at or near their homes and took a puddle jump flight to play an inferior opponent in a climate controlled environment.     The biggest issue was that they were still in their midseason malaise.........which is on them.    They played down to their opponent in both of those Detroit games.    Last night they were much healthier started to get back on track but still aren't executing at a high level offensively again.   

[Xwnyer]

First team to win three Thursday games in a year

[US Egg]

2 hours ago, Big Turk said:

Yeah, you’re all bark and like to hear yourself do so, that’s clear.

[eball]

17 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

So we have negotiated it down from "unprecedented" to "a big deal"?  

 

If there was even one game in that batch where they weren't a significant favorite to win.........then it might have been "a big deal".

 

They were actually fortunate that they got these 3 overmatched opponents at the tail end of their annual mid-season malaise.    Allen versus Goff/Brissett/Mack10 should be 3-0 every time.

 

They took care of business and didn't let missing a couple practices lead to an upset loss after being upset in two consecutive games.........that's the reality.

Says a guy who has NO idea what it takes. You’re a 🤡 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

27 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

You act like these guys had to dig their own walkways to the airport and got in just before game time.    They got picked up at or near their homes and took a puddle jump flight to play an inferior opponent in a climate controlled environment.     The biggest issue was that they were still in their midseason malaise.........which is on them.    They played down to their opponent in both of those Detroit games.    Last night they were much healthier started to get back on track but still aren't executing at a high level offensively again.   

I literally said the main problem was they weren’t able to practice and you ignored it completely but ok 😂. 
 

I also think that just because the flight was short it doesn’t mean the situation wasn’t logistically difficult/a minor distraction but that was a secondary point.  
 

they were missing lots of key players for that two game stretch and found a way to win which sounds like a point you kind of agree with from your last two sentences.  I feel like you’re just lookin an excuse to use the word malaise a bunch of times haha 
 

 

[BADOLBILZ]

3 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I literally said the main problem was they weren’t able to practice and you ignored it completely but ok 😂. 

 

 

Because here's your quote:

 

4 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

The travel aspect was insignificant?  Haha they had to get shoveled out of 6 feet of snow to even make it to the flight 😂 and they had to cancel practices leading up to it.  

 

1. Because practices have nothing whatsoever to do with them traveling to Detroit.   Were they too over-rested from not practicing a couple days before to nap on the 40 minute flight?  

 

 2. And "they had to get shoveled out" by some other people is of what great consequence to their ability to play a game that they arrived the day before to play?

 

As I said........the exaggeration by some of you mother hens is priceless.   

[Ya Digg?]

8 hours ago, Spiderweb said:

Anderson? Does he pass the "I've heard of him" test?

 

8 hours ago, hemma said:

UCLA UDFA Rookie.  Looked good throughout preseason. 

Well if we learned anything over the years with Da’Rick, Reilly, this year’s HOF Blackshear is that looking good in preseason is a great indicator of how good someone will be during the regular season!!!

[TheBrownBear]

It's great and I'll take it, but it wasn't a murderer's row of competition.  3 wins against teams that are a combined 6 games below .500.  

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, eball said:

Says a guy who has NO idea what it takes. You’re a 🤡 

 

 

I don't know what it takes to quit my season tickets because the Bills hired an unproven DC from Carolina to be their next HC?   To create fan-shaming LAMP's on TSW while day drinking box wine and peanut butter whiskey because of my guilt over hastily withdrawing my financial support of the franchise?    You definitely know better than me what it takes to do those things.  

[Starr Almighty]

7 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

  

 

You do realize that almost every team that plays on a Thursday is playing their 3rd game in 12 days.........Sunday to Sunday to Thursday = 12.  

 

I don't know if the person who ginned that up was just trolling Bills fans but it's funny how many people ran with it. 

 

 

 

   

Correct but this was Sunday to Thursday to Thursday 😉 totally different 🤣

[TheyCallMeAndy]

And a flu! 

[Scott7975]

9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

  

 

You do realize that almost every team that plays on a Thursday is playing their 3rd game in 12 days.........Sunday to Sunday to Thursday = 12.  

 

I don't know if the person who ginned that up was just trolling Bills fans but it's funny how many people ran with it. 

 

 

 

   

 

How many of them play 3 games on the road in 12 days?  I thought being on the road through those 3 games was the thing.  Not an easy thing to do no matter how you look at it for any team though.

[BADOLBILZ]

4 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

How many of them play 3 games on the road in 12 days?  I thought being on the road through those 3 games was the thing.  Not an easy thing to do no matter how you look at it for any team though.

 

Not easy?   I was debating the "unprecedented" nature of the adversity and now I'm accused of saying it was "easy"? 

 

To paraphrase Dick Jauron......"it's not easy to win in the NFL".

 

And despite it not being easy........when you've already lost several games you were heavy favorites in...........you then gotta' win the rest of the games you are supposed to against very flawed opponents like 2022 versions of Cleveland/Detroit/NE if you want to be the top seed in your conference.   

 

To illustrate that point........in the last 20 years only one NFL team in EITHER conference has earned that #1 seed distinction with a sub .750 win %........and that was the Titans last year.    

 

The standard is clearly higher than "not easy".

 

[QLBillsFan]

14 hours ago, Shaw66 said:

I didn't watch Quessenbery all night long, but I don't think I've seen a lineman be so completely ineffective on a whole series of plays as he was last night.   It's amazing that the Pats couldn't find a way to take better advantage.  It did truly seem like 10 on 11.  

All true but the guy was hurt. Hart got a couple snaps but Q gave it his best. Bills ran and essentially ran clock. I suspect if DD comes back Bills now have run game along with JA having time. That is good news. If DD is out no so good. 

[ganesh]

20 hours ago, eball said:

Go ahead, start “homer-shaming” me…but you all know who you are.  “This is wrong, that is wrong, the Bills don’t scare anyone, the offense doesn’t have talent beyond Allen/Diggs, the D stinks, the coaching is suspect, blah, blah, blah…”

 

Three road wins.  12 days.  A blizzard.  Injuries.  Doubters.

 

Can’t wait for the “there’s no way we’ll slow down Miami’s speed” threads next week.

 

Suck it. I love this team.

 

17 and 3, BABY!!!

 

It is also showing the high expectations placed on this team from both the fans and the media. 

 

If you look carefully and ignore the emotions of a message board (post-game meltdown) a majority of the doubters are still in the media.  Even yesterday, I was watching a YouTube video of Keyshawn Johnson dissing out how the Patriots made all the silly errors and that it was nothing to do with the Bills defense playing lights out.   There are bigger homers of the Patriots, Chiefs, Eagles, 49ers, Cowboys and now the Dolphins in the media than for the Bills and that is how it goes. 

 

The Bills can shut all these nonsense talk by winning the next two games at home against the Division rivals.

1 hour ago, QLBillsFan said:

All true but the guy was hurt. Hart got a couple snaps but Q gave it his best. Bills ran and essentially ran clock. I suspect if DD comes back Bills now have run game along with JA having time. That is good news. If DD is out no so good. 

Beane really needs to spend some quality draft picks on OL to protect Josh Allen.

[Big Turk]

14 hours ago, I am the egg man said:

Yeah, you’re all bark and like to hear yourself do so, that’s clear.

 

Do yourself a favor then and put me on the ignore list so you'll never have to worry about it again.

 

Problem solved.

Edited December 3, 2022 by Big Turk

[Shaw66]

7 hours ago, QLBillsFan said:

All true but the guy was hurt. Hart got a couple snaps but Q gave it his best. Bills ran and essentially ran clock. I suspect if DD comes back Bills now have run game along with JA having time. That is good news. If DD is out no so good. 

I wasn't complaining about Q.  He did what I could, but it's not often that you see an offensive lineman whiff on blocks over and over.   My comment was more about the fact that Pats didn't attack him more.   I was surprised the Bills didn't just go with Hart.  

 

One thing I really didn't notice was how Q did in the run game.  I would guess that his problem was moving laterally, but that in the run game a lot of his assignments were moving forward and he could do that okay.  

[Chaos]

13 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

 

How many of them play 3 games on the road in 12 days?  I thought being on the road through those 3 games was the thing.  Not an easy thing to do no matter how you look at it for any team though.

Its a fair point.  But when the gauntlet is led by Jacoby Brisset, Jared Goff and Mac Jones the odds of winning the three road games is probably higher.  

I also suspect the NFL never or almost never schedules three road games in a row ending with a Thursday night game. 

Edited December 3, 2022 by Chaos

[Punching Bag]

On 12/2/2022 at 8:22 AM, hemma said:

Quesenberry could barely stand up, let alone block.

 

If Dawkins & Quesenberry are both out next week because of the current ankle plague, I hope they promote Alec Andersen from the PS.  He moves his feet well enough + has good balance.

 

Come on to OL Alec. Water feels great.

 

[Punching Bag]

On 12/2/2022 at 9:19 AM, Jerome007 said:

I'm all aboard the Bills wagon, always have been, but I did chuckle at this one. How many teams have PLAYED 3 Thursday games in a season?

 

Still I like it, and 3 wins in 12 days and a blizzard IS quite impressive. 

 

Who would have thought though that the AFC East would be so competitive? Even at 9-3 it's not that comfortable. 

 

Has anyone use playoff predictor to determine if it possible for the AFCE to get all of the wild cards?

 

Part of the reason why AFCE is doing so well Bills are facing the NFC North with one good team (although Lions look like they are getting better). 

[Chaos]

7 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

Has anyone use playoff predictor to determine if it possible for the AFCE to get all of the wild cards?

 

Part of the reason why AFCE is doing so well Bills are facing the NFC North with one good team (although Lions look like they are getting better). 

It is possible. Here is one scenario (there are many)

[Punching Bag]

Just now, Chaos said:

It is possible. Here is one scenario (there are many)

 

I'd prefer one with Bills taking AFCE.  Then it is POSSIBLE that Bills could face our three AFCE foes in playoffs at home.

[Chaos]

39 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

 

I'd prefer one with Bills taking AFCE.  Then it is POSSIBLE that Bills could face our three AFCE foes in playoffs at home.

[Scott7975]

9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

Not easy?   I was debating the "unprecedented" nature of the adversity and now I'm accused of saying it was "easy"? 

 

To paraphrase Dick Jauron......"it's not easy to win in the NFL".

 

And despite it not being easy........when you've already lost several games you were heavy favorites in...........you then gotta' win the rest of the games you are supposed to against very flawed opponents like 2022 versions of Cleveland/Detroit/NE if you want to be the top seed in your conference.   

 

To illustrate that point........in the last 20 years only one NFL team in EITHER conference has earned that #1 seed distinction with a sub .750 win %........and that was the Titans last year.    

 

The standard is clearly higher than "not easy".

 

 

I didnt accuse you of anything.  

[BADOLBILZ]

1 hour ago, Scott7975 said:

 

I didnt accuse you of anything.  

 

 

Yeah I didn't think you intended to,  but since that's the way it read...........and since this is the internet.........I gotta' make it clear that I never said it was easy.      

 

Otherwise people who didn't read the first 3 pages jump in and start demanding that I explain how it was so easy.  

 

The OP crafted it like this was some herculean task for a SB contending team..........it wasn't.  

 

Frankly...........just one trip to Europe sandwiched between 2 other Sunday games would have been more challenging than a couple puddle jumps to Detroit and a quickie to Boston.     

[BADOLBILZ]

10 hours ago, ganesh said:

It is also showing the high expectations placed on this team from both the fans and the media. 

 

Claiming that the expectations were "placed" on them implies that they didn't expect more from themselves.

 

The team realized that they blew it last year while playing an easy/favorable schedule while dealing with very few injuries and then ending teets-up in Arrowhead again.

 

Their stated goal from the outset was to actually achieve home field this time around.   It wasn't lip service.    They just lost their focus at mid-season again and now they don't control their own destiny in that regard.    

 

   

Edited December 3, 2022 by BADOLBILZ