Bills version of Butt Fumble

[corta765]

The ringer had a good piece on how the butt fumble has represented the Jets struggles and problems as a franchise for the last decade. Here is the link for a laugh:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/11/22/23471718/new-york-jets-butt-fumble-10-year-anniversary-mark-sanchez

 

It got me thinking what would've been the Bills version for at least the drought era. My top 3:

 

1. Stevie TD drop 2010 - literally dropped a GW TD pass and proceeded to blame god

2. McKelvin fumble in 09 MNF opener

3. Losman fumble TD in NY 2008

[The Frankish Reich]

You really want to go there - the Billsiest moments of the Forgotten Decades …

[Big Turk]

5 minutes ago, corta765 said:

The ringer had a good piece on how the butt fumble has represented the Jets struggles and problems as a franchise for the last decade. Here is the link for a laugh:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/11/22/23471718/new-york-jets-butt-fumble-10-year-anniversary-mark-sanchez

 

It got me thinking what would've been the Bills version for at least the drought era. My top 3:

 

1. Stevie TD drop 2010 - literally dropped a GW TD pass and proceeded to blame god

2. McKelvin fumble in 09 MNF opener

3. Losman fumble TD in NY 2008

 

Allen's fumbled sneak against the Vikings to give them the lead with 44 seconds left?

[RoyBatty is alive]

McKelvin fumble was our butt fumble.    To beat the dreaded Brady Patriots on MNF to break their winning string versus us. The Clincher was there was no real reason for that to ever happen, game was effectively won.

3 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Allen's fumbled sneak against the Vikings to give them the lead with 44 seconds left?

Not part of the drought era though.

[Gugny]

Although we won the game, Tyrod lining up behind the guard in shotgun was one of the finer moments of what was the Tuhrod Shitshow that we had forced down our throats for years.

[Big Turk]

15 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said:

McKelvin fumble was our butt fumble.    To beat the dreaded Brady Patriots on MNF to break their winning string versus us. The Clincher was there was no real reason for that to ever happen, game was effectively won.

Not part of the drought era though.

 

Maybe Tuel's 101 yard INT against the 8-0 Chiefs as we were about to take a 17-3 lead coming out of halftime in a game where the Chiefs were doing next to nothing on offense?

 

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/jeff-tuel-threw-a-101-yard-pick-six-against-the-chiefs-01dxehy4fbqj

Edited November 22, 2022 by Big Turk

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

15 minutes ago, corta765 said:

The ringer had a good piece on how the butt fumble has represented the Jets struggles and problems as a franchise for the last decade. Here is the link for a laugh:

https://www.theringer.com/nfl/2022/11/22/23471718/new-york-jets-butt-fumble-10-year-anniversary-mark-sanchez

 

It got me thinking what would've been the Bills version for at least the drought era. My top 3:

 

1. Stevie TD drop 2010 - literally dropped a GW TD pass and proceeded to blame god

2. McKelvin fumble in 09 MNF opener

3. Losman fumble TD in NY 2008

 

If we're looking at this purely from a struggle/problem standpoint I agree with your ratings, but to me one of the defining characteristics of the butt fumble is the humor of it. 

 

If we're looking at humor I would move Losman fumble to #1. The play is straight chaos and is hilarious to watch (unless you're a Bills fan). The way Losman tries to throw the ball looks funny, then the ball starts bouncing like crazy (multiple attempts to corral it fail). A ref gets completely trucked. Then the Jets guy dives into the end zone.

 

Bonus points for Jason "hall of fame" Peters with the 100% whiff on the block leading to the whole thing. 

 

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

27 minutes ago, Gugny said:

Although we won the game, Tyrod lining up behind the guard in shotgun was one of the finer moments of what was the Tuhrod Shitshow that we had forced down our throats for years.

 

I loved it - everyone called him out as trash.  I loved reminding people... we did get the first down after that play when tyrod picked up 22 on 3rd and 19 🙂

 

[Gugny]

Just now, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I loved it - everyone called him out as trash.  I loved reminding people... we did get the first down after that play when tyrod picked up 22 on 3rd and 19 🙂

 

 

He was trash as soon as he arrived in Buffalo.

[corta765]

35 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Maybe Tuel's 101 yard INT against the 8-0 Chiefs as we were about to take a 17-3 lead coming out of halftime in a game where the Chiefs were doing next to nothing on offense?

 

https://www.thebiglead.com/posts/jeff-tuel-threw-a-101-yard-pick-six-against-the-chiefs-01dxehy4fbqj

 

That is a really good one

[LeviF]

Leaving a KO sitting in the endzone for the Jets to recover for a TD stands out. 2016 season in NJ I think.

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

4 minutes ago, LeviF said:

Leaving a KO sitting in the endzone for the Jets to recover for a TD stands out. 2016 season in NJ I think.

 

I always thought if you didn't touch it it was a dead ball in the end zone.  It definitely is now - but maybe that was a rule change. 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Bleeding Bills Blue

[LABILLBACKER]

1 hour ago, Big Turk said:

 

Allen's fumbled sneak against the Vikings to give them the lead with 44 seconds left?

Enough sneaks unless it's at midfield.  Nothing good over the last 2 years have come from Josh & qb sneaks.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

1 minute ago, LeviF said:

Leaving a KO sitting in the endzone for the Jets to recover for a TD stands out. 2016 season in NJ I think.

 

Ah yes... the  EJ Manuel / Cardale Jones with Anthony Lynn as Head Coach game. Feels like a fever dream now looking back

 

 

[Arkady Renko]

3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I always thought if you didn't touch it it was a dead ball in the end zone.  It definitely is now - but maybe that was a rule change. 

It was a rule change made later for safety purposes.  

[Big Turk]

6 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I always thought if you didn't touch it it was a dead ball in the end zone.  It definitely is now - but maybe that was a rule change. 

 

I believe that was a rule change...I distinctly remember a game where the Bills recovered the ball for a TD on a similar play and it was ruled not a TD after the fourth official overturned the call in a way that I wasn't even sure was legal. Basically they ruled that the rule shouldn't be followed because it wasn't the "intent" of the rule even though if you just went by the "letter of the rule" it was clearly a Bills TD.

 

It was honestly kind of stunning really. The NFL basically just made up the rule as they went along in that situation. Want to say the rule was changed prior to the following season.

 

I want to say it was in the playoffs also...maybe the Houston playoff game?

Edited November 22, 2022 by Big Turk

[buffaloboyinATL]

To me it was a game when EJ Manuel had several turn-overs, including one that he through right to a JJ Watt, around the Texans 20 yard line, for an 80 yard pick six. I just remember hanging my head and thinking we looked like laughing stocks.  

 

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by buffaloboyinATL

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

4 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

I always thought if you didn't touch it it was a dead ball in the end zone.  It definitely is now - but maybe that was a rule change. 

 

It landed at about the 15 and slowly bounced into the EZ. I'm curious how it would be ruled now. 

 

 

[Ralonzo]

Peterman

[Big Turk]

1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

It landed at about the 15 and slowly bounced into the EZ. I'm curious how it would be ruled now. 

 

 

 

Tasker on the call too...greatest special teamed of all time must have been absolutely beside himself after seeing that from the Bills 

[Goin Breakdown]

13.....nevermind

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

Tasker on the call too...greatest special teamed of all time must have been absolutely beside himself after seeing that from the Bills 

 

ARTICLE 5. FREE KICK CROSSES GOAL LINE

It is a touchback, if a free kick:

is not touched by the receiving team, and the ball touches the ground in the end zone.

[corta765]

It wasn't a game but EJ throwing a ball into the hospitality tent during training camp always has a special place in my heart

[transient]

 

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, Ralonzo said:

Peterman

Yep. Not one play that symbolized a franchise hitting bottom, but one half of a game.

If only Vontae Davis had quit in the middle of a defensive series (walking out the tunnel never to return) we would have one of the all-time low points. But if there’s no video it’s like it never even happened. 

[corta765]

13 minutes ago, transient said:

 

 

 

I was at this game in that section literally to the left. All the sudden we saw like 10 guys in yellow in security swarm the area, wasn't until social media video loaded we saw what happened.

[Low Positive]

3 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

ARTICLE 5. FREE KICK CROSSES GOAL LINE

It is a touchback, if a free kick:

is not touched by the receiving team, and the ball touches the ground in the end zone.

That should not have been a TD, unless a Bills player touched it.

7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yep. Not one play that symbolized a franchise hitting bottom, but one half of a game.

If only Vontae Davis had quit in the middle of a defensive series (walking out the tunnel never to return) we would have one of the all-time low points. But if there’s no video it’s like it never even happened. 

But the Peterman half was the year that the drought ended.

[The Frankish Reich]

1 minute ago, FrenchConnection said:

That should not have been a TD, unless a Bills player touched it.

But the Peterman half was the year that the drought ended.

True … it’s an “always darkest before dawn” low point. 

[Low Positive]

I'm going to go a different route. The drought began with the Music City Forward Pass. That's our butt fumble.

[Dan Darragh]

Someone help me with the details here but I think it was Losman who on his last play as a Bill, which was something like 4th and 18, ran out of bounds after a short gain rather than get tackled.  That was our butt fumble in my foggy recollection.

[Wraith]

3 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said:

Someone help me with the details here but I think it was Losman who on his last play as a Bill, which was something like 4th and 18, ran out of bounds after a short gain rather than get tackled.  That was our butt fumble in my foggy recollection.

That was Trent Edwards.

[Freddie's Dead]

3 hours ago, LeviF said:

Leaving a KO sitting in the endzone for the Jets to recover for a TD stands out. 2016 season in NJ I think.

 

TD Mike Gillislee was the one just staring at the football.  They changed the rule so that now a KO is automatically a touchback if it's in the EZ and not touched by the receiving team.  Another let's screw Buffalo first, then change the rule.

3 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said:

 

ARTICLE 5. FREE KICK CROSSES GOAL LINE

It is a touchback, if a free kick:

is not touched by the receiving team, and the ball touches the ground in the end zone.

 

They changed the rule after that play.

3 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Enough sneaks unless it's at midfield.  Nothing good over the last 2 years have come from Josh & qb sneaks.

 

The Bills 4th and 1 against Dallas on Thanksgiving says hi.

[Dan Darragh]

6 minutes ago, Wraith said:

That was Trent Edwards.

Like I said, foggy.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 hours ago, buffaloboyinATL said:

To me it was a game when EJ Manuel had several turn-overs, including one that he through right to a JJ Watt, around the Texans 20 yard line, for an 80 yard pick six. I just remember hanging my head and thinking we looked like laughing stocks.  

 

 

 

We were laughing stocks

 

Honest question, what the hell is a laughing stock and how did that become a phrase????

Edited November 22, 2022 by Ethan in Cleveland

[transient]

Don't torture yourselves by going to YouTube and watching... it's the Kyle Orton wussy slide.

[buffaloboyinATL]

12 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

We were laughing stocks

 

Honest question, what the hell is a laughing stock and how did that become a phrase????

Funny, every now and then, I catch myself using a phrase that I know the "meaning of", but not the origin. I believe laughing stock dates back to when people used to be put in "stocks" as a punishment, and then they were publicly ridiculed. The phrase dates back to Shakespeare days, I believe.  

[BRH]

4 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

I believe that was a rule change...I distinctly remember a game where the Bills recovered the ball for a TD on a similar play and it was ruled not a TD after the fourth official overturned the call in a way that I wasn't even sure was legal. Basically they ruled that the rule shouldn't be followed because it wasn't the "intent" of the rule even though if you just went by the "letter of the rule" it was clearly a Bills TD.

 

It was honestly kind of stunning really. The NFL basically just made up the rule as they went along in that situation. Want to say the rule was changed prior to the following season.

 

I want to say it was in the playoffs also...maybe the Houston playoff game?

 

It absolutely was.  We win the game if that was called correctly.

 

Then of course they hurried to change the rule just as fast as they could.

 

It reminded me of the '99 Cup Final.... not just the no goal, but the play where Brian Skrudland headbutted one of our players right in front of a ref.... at the time (perhaps even now) it was an automatic one-game suspension.  Of course the league ignored it.

24 minutes ago, transient said:

Don't torture yourselves by going to YouTube and watching... it's the Kyle Orton wussy slide.

 

Man made a business decision.  That's where he really announced his retirement.

[Big Turk]

10 minutes ago, BRH said:

 

It absolutely was.  We win the game if that was called correctly.

 

Then of course they hurried to change the rule just as fast as they could.

 

It reminded me of the '99 Cup Final.... not just the no goal, but the play where Brian Skrudland headbutted one of our players right in front of a ref.... at the time (perhaps even now) it was an automatic one-game suspension.  Of course the league ignored it.

 

Man made a business decision.  That's where he really announced his retirement.

 

I guess it wasn't the exact same thing...basically the guy caught the ball in the endzone and just flipped it to the ref without actually downing it, which made it a fumble.

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Big Turk

[Rigotz]

I think I've got it.

 

In 2003 the Bills were 9-6 and just needed to beat the Steelers 2nd string players to clinch playoffs.

Bills were winning 17-16 midway through the 3rd quarter.

 

The Bills drove down to the 1 yard line, didn't have the balls to go for it on 4th down, and Rian Lindell missed a 28 yard field goal.

 

The Steelers broke a 58 yard run the next play and never gave up the lead again, as Drew Bledsoe stood in the pocket and got destroyed by backup D-linemen and Linebackers the rest of the game.

 

That cowardly field goal and ensuing miss perfectly encapsulates a 20-year drought.

[LabattBlue]

6 hours ago, Big Turk said:

 

Allen's fumbled sneak against the Vikings to give them the lead with 44 seconds left?

This!   There is no other answer in the 60 year history of the team.