Einstein Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I have no proof to back it up, just speculating. Do you think it’s possible that Allen was concussed on this play and it has been affecting his play? I know he popped right back up after the hit but we all know Josh is one tough SOB! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 There might be something to this. I thought it was really strange when he was on all fours and shaked his head like a dog yesterday. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I think almost every reason possible has been discussed as to his poor performance in the last 18 hours. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: There might be something to this. I thought it was really strange when he was on all fours and shaked his head like a dog yesterday. Im not good at detecting sarcasm. Did this actually happen yesterday or did I miss the joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Rc2catch said: I think almost every reason possible has been discussed as to his poor performance in the last 18 hours. This is true, but GB and especially yesterday were really strange performances. Allen was literally shaking cobwebs out of his ear hole yesterday after a hit. He didn’t see defenders yesterday that were clearly in throwing lanes for east ints. It was very weird. 1 minute ago, Einstein said: Im not good at detecting sarcasm. Did this actually happen yesterday or did I miss the joke? No it actually happened. Dude was shaking cob webs out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Probably best to not speculate about injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I said the exact same thing. I actually go back a couple games too when he ran to get first down and kind of went in backwards by the sideline and his neck jarred. He looked off after that. But yes. I 100 agree it could be thay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Einstein said: I have no proof to back it up, just speculating. Do you think it’s possible that Allen was concussed on this play and it has been affecting his play? I know he popped right back up after the hit but we all know Josh is one tough SOB! I absolutely think this is a possibility. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, IronMaidenBills said: No it actually happened. Dude was shaking cob webs out. Oh wow I missed that. He is one tough guy, so it wouldn’t surprise me if he just doesn’t say anything to the training staff. Just now, Gugny said: I absolutely think this is a possibility. Yeah watch not only the hit but also how his head snaps back when he hits the ground. Potential to be ugly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Gugny said: I absolutely think this is a possibility. It would explain a lot yesterday. I wish I could find the video of Allen shaking out the cob webs yesterday after a hit. That’s fairly common behavior if things are feeling off upstairs after a concussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Josh Allen reminds of Brett Favre in that he could be injured and just play right through it without telling anyone. I don't think the Bills coaching staff would allow should they suspect something is wrong though. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I mean I can't discount this. It seems really strange how he went from playing amazing in the first half to terrible in the 2nd and then that continued this week, which might be expected if he continued to practice as normal during the week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: It would explain a lot yesterday. I wish I could find the video of Allen shaking out the cob webs yesterday after a hit. That’s fairly common behavior if things are feeling off upstairs after a concussion. Do you know what quarter or drive this happened in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Turk said: I mean I can't discount this. It seems really strange how he went from playing amazing in the first half to terrible in the 2nd and then that continued this week, which might be expected if he continued to practice as normal during the week. It’s like a light switch went off. It was really weird. It was very noticeable yesterday like Allen was dealing with mental fog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 7, 2022 Author Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Do you know what quarter or drive this happened in? Yeah I’m the tweet poster. It was near the end of the 1st quarter. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Do you know what quarter or drive this happened in? I think it was after the fumble. But I have the games recorded and will go back in look tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocoboy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Probably best to not speculate about injuries. probably best to not drink a case of labatt's and jump through a table but hell. Edited November 7, 2022 by pocoboy 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Honestly, yes. There was a clear, fairly large drop-off in Allen's play that occurred sometime around halftime of the GB game. He hit his head on the ground a couple of times in that game, and it wouldn't shock me if he was shaken up more than he let on. Pure speculation of course. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I believe it to be true. I mean he looks LOST out there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 There's got to be something happening. What he's done the last 6 quarters goes beyond poor play. He's making decisions I haven't seen him make EVER. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 24 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: Probably best to not speculate about injuries. Why? What does it hurt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Don’t like to speculate on JA17’s well being. But….. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I just recorded it but the file is way too large to upload. Not sure if it was cob webs or him saying no because he managed to save the fumble. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Why? What does it hurt? It doesn't hurt anything, I just think it's a bad look and it reeks of reaching for an excuse. Allen was bad Sunday. It might have been his worst game since his rookie year. He didn't have much help, but he also wasn't taking the quick easy completions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Just now, Bruffalo said: It doesn't hurt anything, I just think it's a bad look and it reeks of reaching for an excuse. Allen was bad Sunday. It might have been his worst game since his rookie year. He didn't have much help, but he also wasn't taking the quick easy completions. He's literally just thrown it to the other team 3 times in last 6 quarters. These weren't bad decisions. These weren't great plays by the defense. These are him. Literally throwing it in the chest of the other team. Nevermind the dropped interception that wasn't even close to the target. It's like he's not seeing things properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 36 minutes ago, Einstein said: I have no proof to back it up, just speculating. Do you think it’s possible that Allen was concussed on this play and it has been affecting his play? I know he popped right back up after the hit but we all know Josh is one tough SOB! No. Would you have suggested a concussion was affecting his play after the 1st half yesterday? He had the boneheaded INT in the 1st half yesterday, but otherwise looked pretty sharp (two TDs and led the team into FG range in less than a minute). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I think I started this in a different thread. I wondered about it in the second half of the GB game, and I still wonder about it following the Jets game. Bottom line here is that something is up. Maybe he was concussed on the shot in the GB game. Maybe he had a COVID booster and it’s screwed him up. (I had vertigo after my most recent booster and for a couple of weeks thereafter I felt like I just wanted my brain back. It was horrible, and I can’t imagine anyone with those side effects trying to play professional football.) I don’t know. But he’s not right. Without any care in the world for football I hope he’s OK. He’s one of us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 minutes ago, Bruffalo said: It doesn't hurt anything, I just think it's a bad look and it reeks of reaching for an excuse. Allen was bad Sunday. It might have been his worst game since his rookie year. He didn't have much help, but he also wasn't taking the quick easy completions. Explanations are not excuses. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PayDaBill$ Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) He’s seeing ghosts, some of those throws & decisions yesterday were so out of character it’s hard not believe that he isn’t having some kind of issue related to that hit. I know the oline blew yesterday but his performance seemed way off, even with line issues. Dude needs to be evaluated, rib’s concussion whatever…. If it’s a concussion, it’s is no joke! Edited November 7, 2022 by PayDaBill$ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 What I don't understand is he sounds fine in the post game. Answers questions normally. After the Green Bay game he calmly explained that he had to be better. So if he was concussed, he doesn't sound like it. But maybe the symptoms only happen when he has to move? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, Einstein said: I have no proof to back it up, just speculating. Do you think it’s possible that Allen was concussed on this play and it has been affecting his play? I know he popped right back up after the hit but we all know Josh is one tough SOB! Quoting your own twitter feed is special. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 19 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: I think it was after the fumble. But I have the games recorded and will go back in look tonight. Yes, looks like it was this play. 1st & 10 at NYJ 12 (6:24 - 1st) (Shotgun) J.Allen to NYJ 19 for -7 yards (S.Rankins). FUMBLES (S.Rankins), and recovers at NYJ 18. J.Allen sacked at NYJ 14 for -2 yards (sack split by J.Sherwood and K.Alexander). I missed it yesterday, but Josh shakes his head pretty hard after the tackle. It's possible he was looking over to the sideline (or another player) and shaking his head "no" in response to something. It's also possible he has a lingering concussion and got his bell rung. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocoboy Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: What I don't understand is he sounds fine in the post game...So if he was concussed, he doesn't sound like it. But maybe the symptoms only happen when he has to move? Occam's Razor. The simplest answer is that aliens from the galaxy Zurytnthum kidnapped Josh, fed him three levels of condriptium hydrochloride, and then put him on the Stilt-a-Whirl for 3 hours before the Jet game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Not buying the speculation, it's just another excuse. GB adjusted & halftime defensively, jets did the same after the 1st quarter. Went to 2 high safety, keep a spy on Josh, bring pressure (which the jets did effectively w/ 4). Diggs had 93 yds first half & 0 the second bc the jets focused on taking him away. That's the difference in the change of performance. Our problems run the gambit, line blocking, receivers showing up & better game plan to counter that style defense. Bills need to focus on that not a phantom concussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Virgil said: There's got to be something happening. What he's done the last 6 quarters goes beyond poor play. He's making decisions I haven't seen him make EVER. This is why I think a concussion is a legitimate theory. I’ve never seen him throw such outrageous ints before. Edited November 7, 2022 by IronMaidenBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 If they (Bills-NFL) thought Allen had a concussion, they would have him tested especially with how the Tua situation was handled. Josh is struggling right now but I would guess it has nothing to do with a possible concussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cotton Fitzsimmons Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: It’s like a light switch went off. It was really weird. It was very noticeable yesterday like Allen was dealing with mental fog. Something is off… he was hitching a lot yesterday and the picks he threw were right to the opposition. He looks completely different. Like you said, it’s like he’s dealing with some kind of mental fog… it doesn’t look like he’s processing what he’s seeing anywhere near his normal capacity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 52 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: I think almost every reason possible has been discussed as to his poor performance in the last 18 hours. Is Mercury in retrograde? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 I thought the pick to Alexander was the worst interception I’d ever seen until the one on the opening drive yesterday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Cotton Fitzsimmons said: Something is off… he was hitching a lot yesterday and the picks he threw were right to the opposition. He looks completely different. Like you said, it’s like he’s dealing with some kind of mental fog… it doesn’t look like he’s processing what he’s seeing anywhere near his normal capacity. For me it’s obvious. Especially watching him shake his head like a dog does when something feels off to them. It’s pretty normal behavior for someone with lingering head trauma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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