Putin Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: CAR already paid the bonus money. That is his total cap hit starting next season according to wgr starting next season. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/ And it is. Assuming CAR even eats 3/4 of that. There is still Hyde, poyer, Edmunds, Oliver and Davis coming up over the next two years. Should the Bills drop 5m/y on a guy that is going to get 9 touches per game or invest in the others I mentioned? Good point ! But just imagine another receiving weapon for a defense to deal with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 Just now, Putin said: Good point ! But just imagine another receiving weapon for a defense to deal with Which is why I'd rather just throw a chunk of bitcoin at OBJ for a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, The Wiz said: CAR already paid the bonus money. That is his total cap hit starting next season according to wgr starting next season. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/ Assuming CAR even eats 3/4 of that (restructure then trade him) There is still Hyde, poyer, Edmunds, Oliver and Davis coming up over the next two years. Should the Bills drop 5m/y on a guy that is going to get 9 touches per game or invest in the others I mentioned? That's just it. Even if we make a move for CMC - it's for this season only. A one year rental to help us get a ring. Much like LA did with OBJ and Von last season. We can't afford to keep him beyond this season even if he delivers. It's not in Beane's DNA to pay big money to a RB. Especially one with the wear and tear of CMC. And doubly so with the contracts we have coming up after this season juxtaposed with the raise in cap costs for some of our core players. So given those facts, we're not giving up anything more than a 3rd and a late rounder next year - tops. Preferably less. Edited October 11, 2022 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 25 minutes ago, The Wiz said: CAR already paid the bonus money. That is his total cap hit starting next season according to wgr starting next season. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/christian-mccaffrey-21749/ Assuming CAR even eats 3/4 of that (restructure then trade him) There is still Hyde, poyer, Edmunds, Oliver and Davis coming up over the next two years. Should the Bills drop 5m/y on a guy that is going to get 9 touches per game or invest in the others I mentioned? Singletary is averaging 11.6 touches per game this season, CMC would obviously get more, but to answer your question aside from the weird 9 touches part, yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Singletary is averaging 11.6 touches per game this season, CMC would obviously get more, but to answer your question aside from the weird 9 touches part, yes He get's 11.6 touches per game because he's the only offense they have. You don't think he would reduce in the amount of touches with the passing game that we have? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 38 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Assuming CAR even eats 3/4 of that (restructure then trade him) There is still Hyde, poyer, Edmunds, Oliver and Davis coming up over the next two years. Should the Bills drop 5m/y on a guy that is going to get 9 touches per game or invest in the others I mentioned? First thought: Win the SB this year at all costs!!!! The future is an afterthought. Poyer and Hyde shouldn’t be extended if we win a Lombardi. They are both getting older and if we were to keep them it would have to be on short term deals. Oliver and David you resign. Edmunds…….????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 20 hours ago, without a drought said: The most dangerous dumpoff man in the NFL? Not according to his yards per reception or the fact that his longest career reception is 37 yards back when he was a rookie. Lol ok sure yes he only had a long of 37 yards. In his prime he had a 1000 yards receiving and averaged 8.7 yards a catch, mainly from dumpoffs and screens. There were even talks about him becoming a slot reciever in the nfl. You can argue Barkley, ekeler, or kamara are better because of yards per reception but none of them ever eclipsed 1000 in any of their primes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 5 hours ago, L Ron Burgundy said: Uh, it's an internet rumor and they are pros. If this hurts their feelings we got bigger problems. Who said anything about hurting anyone's feelings? NO one needs a distraction before the biggest game of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 35 minutes ago, The Wiz said: He get's 11.6 touches per game because he's the only offense they have. You don't think he would reduce in the amount of touches with the passing game that we have? Singletary is on the bills. He gets 11.6 touches a game currently. You don’t think they’d increase the RB touches if they had CMC? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 My concern is his first season as the lead back with Newton in 2018. Prior to that they go into the playoffs 4 of the last 5 seasons then it's all downhill from there for the franchise despite McCaffery's phenomenal numbers and then injuries. He might be bad juju Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 On 10/10/2022 at 2:40 PM, Warriorspikes51 said: The acquiring team is only on the hook for an apprx 600k this season And 11.8 million next year? This report has been refuted, so we don't know what is true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 17 minutes ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Singletary is on the bills. He gets 11.6 touches a game currently. You don’t think they’d increase the RB touches if they had CMC? slightly? over 20 games including the playoffs 15 would be 300 touches. That’s a hefty season. 8 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: And 11.8 million next year? This report has been refuted, so we don't know what is true. no dead money comes with the trade so we could cut him without obligation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 I live down here in NC...My adult Nephew is most definitely a dedicated Panthers fan, and his favorite player is CMC...All we do is talk football about our teams. I think what McCaffrey wants will come into play a bit. He's really liked...And I can't imagine him not wanting to come to Buffalo for a SB run. But...He has only played 15 games since 2022...Different injuries including ankle, shoulder, and thigh...He's only 26...And certainly some of that could have just been bad luck. I think McCaffrey would fit like a glove and become an absolute weapon for the Bills come playoff time. We've all seen Devin take quite a few check-downs...If that's a healthy McCaffrey he's going to break one every now and again...Another thing for Defenses to worry about... That being said he's a RB on a deal that is a must home-town restructure, or waive...The current deal has to go...And that's why I hesitate with any 2nd, and definitely 1st round talk. Especially 1st Round...No thank you... I'm hoping the Bills call pull a 3rd Rd and something deal to land McCaffrey...Hopefully things go great and everyone benefits long term...I don't question for one second that a healthy CMC would be a great addition. I think everything about him screams process... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: Singletary is on the bills. He gets 11.6 touches a game currently. You don’t think they’d increase the RB touches if they had CMC? Misread what you said. Thought you meant CMC has 11.6 touches. But even still, I would guess CMC would get around the same amount of touches. His usage in the passing game would be much more useful but if you are talking about trading Motor for a 1 year rental then they are going to basically bet the farm that Cook can produce like Motor can next year because they aren't going to keep Mcaffrey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 2 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Misread what you said. Thought you meant CMC has 11.6 touches. But even still, I would guess CMC would get around the same amount of touches. His usage in the passing game would be much more useful but if you are talking about trading Motor for a 1 year rental then they are going to basically bet the farm that Cook can produce like Motor can next year because they aren't going to keep Mcaffrey. We aren't going to sign Singletary either way. That's why we drafted Cook lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 55 minutes ago, FireChans said: We aren't going to sign Singletary either way. That's why we drafted Cook lol It's more likely they resign Singletary than resigning CMC to a better contract. Do you really think they want to go into next season with only Cook and Zack Moss as the potential starters? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 We have already put out quite a bit of money in free agency with a lot of players that we are going to need to sign I’m with some others here that if we’re going to get a free agent let’s do it on the o line 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 McCaffrey and Corbett for our 1st. Hopefully both contracts can be restructured in a way where the players are affordable after this season, but if not, it’s an upgrade at guard and running back for a super bowl run this season. Then one or both players can be flipped in the off-season to recoup draft picks without cap penalty. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Rock-A-Bye Beasley said: McCaffrey and Corbett for our 1st. Hopefully both contracts can be restructured in a way where the players are affordable after this season, but if not, it’s an upgrade at guard and running back for a super bowl run this season. Then one or both players can be flipped in the off-season to recoup draft picks without cap penalty. No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rock-A-Bye Beasley Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Aussie Joe said: No I’d rather not give up the first obviously but that’s what I think it would take. I can’t believe bills fans still don’t want to add depth everywhere after all these injuries and the dolphins game. People really love future draft picks around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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