Doesn't McD claim the Bills are the best prepared team in the NFL - Yet at the end of games they fall apart?????

[hemma]

Unreal

[Brand J]

Over the last two seasons, the Bills have looked like the heavyweight boxer who packs the meanest right hook in the ring. They obliterate their opponents when they win, TKOs early and late, but for those few fighters who can take the punch, dish out a little of their own, and last until the final bell, the Bills lose on the scorecards, all close decisions. They’ve only been knocked out once (Colts), but generally they do the knocking out. 20 straight fights that have been stopped. One more stoppage and they’ll  break a record. We’ll start winning on the scorecards soon enough…

[jkeerie]

39 minutes ago, ngbills said:

Correct. Smarter move would have been throw it out of bounds though. 

The question was how much time was left.  I didn't really take note.  Did you happen to notice?

[Donuts and Doritos]

How many trash McD threads are we going to have? This is like the 3rd one.

[RochesterLifer]

43 minutes ago, Stanley Lombardi said:

No, McDermott has never claimed the Bills are the best prepared team in the NFL.  Others have claimed that about his teams, but not McDermott himself.

Thanks for asking.

I was wondering about that. McDermott practices humility. That type of chest thumping would be very out of character for him.

[Virgil]

I’m just hear to see what set you off at 5p on a Monday

[fasteddie]

4 hours ago, jkeerie said:

No.  After the muff, if Allen tries to spike the ball it's intentional grounding (Jamis Winston did that in NO) and loss of down.  That's why Josh tried to make the play with Diggs.  McKenzie didn't think he could get out of bounds.  After he was down he ran to get the ball to the referee but was held by the Dolphin player to prevent him from getting there, so they ran out of time.

When Winston muffed the snap, the ball hit the ground, he could not spike it. Tasker was saying that he still could have spiked it since it never hit the ground. Since the rules seem to change every year, it's hard to say. 

[jkeerie]

13 minutes ago, fasteddie said:

When Winston muffed the snap, the ball hit the ground, he could not spike it. Tasker was saying that he still could have spiked it since it never hit the ground. Since the rules seem to change every year, it's hard to say. 

I heard Tasker say that today but Josh was pretty certain in his comment that he couldn't.  I guess when in doubt...don't.  Coaches should set him straight if he's wrong.

 

I just looked it up.  He can still spike the ball as long as he does it immediately.  So would it then be a judgment call by the ref?

Edited September 27, 2022 by jkeerie

[cba fan]

4 hours ago, jkeerie said:

No.  After the muff, if Allen tries to spike the ball it's intentional grounding (Jamis Winston did that in NO) and loss of down.  That's why Josh tried to make the play with Diggs.  McKenzie didn't think he could get out of bounds.  After he was down he ran to get the ball to the referee but was held by the Dolphin player to prevent him from getting there, so they ran out of time.

all he had to do was throw it over Diggs head out of bounds. 

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, cba fan said:

all he had to do was throw it over Diggs head out of bounds. 

I didn't catch how much time was on the clock.  That would have been the smart play if there was enough time.

[cba fan]

Just now, jkeerie said:

I didn't catch how much time was on the clock.  That would have been the smart play if there was enough time.

would have been enough. Diggs caught the contested ball, landed, turned up field, started running, then inexplicably, instead of sprinting for sideline, he slows and stutter high stepped, for who knows why, before finally running out of bounds.

 

Diggs should have batted it to the ground. It was a possible pic 6. He should have played defense.

 

yes, i wanted to set a record, for commas.....lol

[jkeerie]

1 minute ago, cba fan said:

would have been enough. Diggs caught the contested ball, landed, turned up field, started running, then inexplicably, instead of sprinting for sideline, he slows and stutter high stepped, for who knows why, before finally running out of bounds.

 

Diggs should have batted it to the ground. It was a possible pic 6. He should have played defense.

 

yes, i wanted to set a record, for commas.....lol

Dorsey said this game was a learning experience for he and the offense.  He said mistakes are correctable.  I guess in all that heat, players weren't thinking too clearly either.

[BillnutinHouston]

OP, I've NEVER heard McD make the claim you say he makes.

[BGORDO]

Give me a break 

[blacklabel]

You can't hear me but I'm making a barf noise as my reaction to this take. 

 

Geez Louise. Did some of y'all honestly think they were gonna win every single one? Now's the time in the season to drop one and hopefully get the injury bug out the way. 

 

One L and so many of ya's are splitting hairs and picking nits while this incredible team is doing amazing things. Half the dang team nearly dropped dead and they still nearly pulled off the won. I can't be mad at that. 

[Billsfan1972]

8 hours ago, blacklabel said:

You can't hear me but I'm making a barf noise as my reaction to this take. 

 

Geez Louise. Did some of y'all honestly think they were gonna win every single one? Now's the time in the season to drop one and hopefully get the injury bug out the way. 

 

One L and so many of ya's are splitting hairs and picking nits while this incredible team is doing amazing things. Half the dang team nearly dropped dead and they still nearly pulled off the won. I can't be mad at that. 

I'm not mad.....  Just noting mistakes at ends of games seem to happen over and over.  

 

Yes a hot take and surprised not more was made of Mackenzie not going down.  Cost 4-5 seconds and a kick.

[todd]

Another horrid take. People need to grow up and have some perspective. I have no idea how you prepare for 10 injuries and almost not being able to field a full team. But hey, if you need to vent that's fine. 

[HOUSE]

FLUSH THE GAME....FLUSH...FLUSH 

It never happened 

[Buffalo ill]

Alcoholism combined with passion is simultaneously the greatest strength and greatest weakness of the Bills Mafia.  It leads to threads like these on the forums.

Edited September 27, 2022 by Buffalo ill

[Dablitzkrieg]

14 hours ago, Johnnycage46 said:

 

I guarantee if Allen spiked the ball and time ran out (due to losing a second or two from the muff) you would make a thread complaining that Allen should have known better and just tried to throw a pass.

I appreciate the use of the word, muff

[Billsfan1972]

1 hour ago, todd said:

Another horrid take. People need to grow up and have some perspective. I have no idea how you prepare for 10 injuries and almost not being able to field a full team. But hey, if you need to vent that's fine. 

Nothing to do with the thread.....  I said the end of game coaching has not been good.  This happens over & over and is not a one off.  

 

The game was there to be won in the last 2 minutes with a FG and they did not execute.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

Death, taxes and BF1972.

 

Three inevitable causes of misery

 

[Greg S]

14 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said:

How many trash McD threads are we going to have? This is like the 3rd one.

 

Maybe we should start one about Beane The OL is still subpar. Maybe its just me but it seems like there isn't a worse team in the league in short yardage situations then the Bills. Take the end of the game 2nd and goal from the one. Pound it in there with Singletary or Moss. Why have Allen throw it on 3rd down. 4th down I get throwing but try to pound it in there a couple of times. I think only the Bengals and Giants have worse OL's. Allen covers up for them with his ability to scramble to avoid the rush otherwise he would be getting the Burrow/Jones treatment.

[Billsfan1972]

27 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said:

Death, taxes and BF1972.

 

Three inevitable causes of misery

 

Stop it.....  Not miserable, stating an opinion.

 

The last 2.5 years the Bills have been dreadful in late game situations, often making bad decisions or not having situational awareness (i.e. McKenzie on Sunday). 

 

I'm not sweating the loss, just lamenting wasting what should have been a comfortable win.

 

And I asked a question, which on p.4 still has not been addressed.  However pithy, sarcastic responses are all over. 

[teef]

22 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Stop it.....  Not miserable, stating an opinion.

 

The last 2.5 years the Bills have been dreadful in late game situations, often making bad decisions or not having situational awareness (i.e. McKenzie on Sunday). 

 

I'm not sweating the loss, just lamenting wasting what should have been a comfortable win.

 

And I asked a question, which on p.4 still has not been addressed.  However pithy, sarcastic responses are all over. 

wonder why...

[Royale with Cheese]

24 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Stop it.....  Not miserable, stating an opinion.

 

The last 2.5 years the Bills have been dreadful in late game situations, often making bad decisions or not having situational awareness (i.e. McKenzie on Sunday). 

 

I'm not sweating the loss, just lamenting wasting what should have been a comfortable win.

 

And I asked a question, which on p.4 still has not been addressed.  However pithy, sarcastic responses are all over. 

 

We were 5-1 in one score games in 2020.

[Billsfan1972]

23 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

And another one score loss😈…

I'm expecting a 10+ point win...  not worried.

[SoMAn]

In their defense, these are humans and they were physically and mentally exhausted.

 

If I'm busy doing yard work in the Atlanta heat and humidity, I'm spent after an hour.  Granted, I'm not as young or in great physical shape as the players are, but they are exerting themselves at full speed in heat, sunshine, humidity, with barely a breeze.  It was described as feeling like 124 degrees on the field.

 

The Dolphin players having shade on the sidelines (as opposed to direct rays all afternoon) may be the 2 point differential right there. Add to that the cohesiveness that was lost as they had to call on 2nd and 3rd string players on short notice.

 

If they had a mental or physical lapse, I can't blame them. Those men gave it everything they had. 

 

I believe the short pass to McKenzie that should have been 6 points, can be attributed to Josh simply running on fumes.

In my estimation, he lost the acuity and concentration needed for the proper mechanics to place the ball McKenzie's reach.  The mind and body were no longer in sync.

Edited September 27, 2022 by SoMAn
added thought

[Billsfan1972]

6 hours ago, teef said:

wonder why...

Because you are too busy trying to fashion a witty response?  Don't ever change.

 

This is a fairly serious issue imo, where the Bills can't seem to win close games, often too having the ball in Josh Allen's hand at the end of games. 

 

I thought minimum a FG attempt was a given based on having the ball on the 25 and 1:33 on the clock. 

 

 

[teef]

8 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Because you are too busy trying to fashion a witty response?  Don't ever change.

 

This is a fairly serious issue imo, where the Bills can't seem to win close games, often too having the ball in Josh Allen's hand at the end of games. 

 

I thought minimum a FG attempt was a given based on having the ball on the 25 and 1:33 on the clock. 

 

 

you need to realize that i'm one of the few reasons your thread are entertaining.  

[Gugny]

7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

We were 5-1 in one score games in 2020.

 

That's because there were no crowds.

[Royale with Cheese]

6 hours ago, SoMAn said:

In their defense, these are humans and they were physically and mentally exhausted.

 

If I'm busy doing yard work in the Atlanta heat and humidity, I'm spent after an hour.  Granted, I'm not as young or in great physical shape as the players are, but they are exerting themselves at full speed in heat, sunshine, humidity, with barely a breeze.  It was described as feeling like 124 degrees on the field.

 

The Dolphin players having shade on the sidelines (as opposed to direct rays all afternoon) may be the 2 point differential right there. Add to that the cohesiveness that was lost as they had to call on 2nd and 3rd string players on short notice.

 

If they had a mental or physical lapse, I can't blame them. Those men gave it everything they had. 

 

I believe the short pass to McKenzie that should have been 6 points, can be attributed to Josh simply running on fumes.

In my estimation, he lost the acuity and concentration needed for the proper mechanics to place the ball McKenzie's reach.  The mind and body were no longer in sync.

 

I think Allen's legs gave out on that throw.  He double clutched his foot in the stride.

3 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

That's because there were no crowds.

 

Isn't 3 a crowd?  I'm sure there was 3 people in the stands.

[Gugny]

2 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I think Allen's legs gave out on that throw.  He double clutched his foot in the stride.

 

Isn't 3 a crowd?  I'm sure there was 3 people in the stands.

 

No.  Three's Company.

 

You will be haunted by Jack Tripper tonight.

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Gugny said:

 

No.  Three's Company.

 

You will be haunted by Jack Tripper tonight.

 

John Ritter in Scrubs was great.  

[uninja]

7 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

We were 5-1 in one score games in 2020.

I think a better question or metric to track is “when the Bills are behind and need a score to win late in the 4th, how often do they succeed or fail?”

 

Honestly going back go 2020 only the Rams game fits that description and we needed a Herculean effort by Allen and a very iffy illegal contact call. Most of the other games were one score, but really it was just garbage time stats by the other teams to make it seem more respectable. 
 

The “one score game thing” is kind of a mirage, but I will say since we got hexed by the Hail Murray we just can’t seem to put together a clutch drive late in the fourth to take the lead when we need it. The Bills always come up juuust short. 
 

I guess 20 years of watching Brady do that ***** constantly just has me thinking it should be easier than it seems. 

[Gugny]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

John Ritter in Scrubs was great.  

 

I can't think of anything John Ritter wasn't great in.

[eball]

Personally, I think 20 straight double-digit wins and 8 straight opening drive TDs speaks more to the overall preparation of the team than an 0-7 streak in one-score games that is clearly an anomaly.

[Royale with Cheese]

1 minute ago, uninja said:

I think a better question or metric to track is “when the Bills are behind and need a score to win late in the 4th, how often do they succeed or fail?”

 

Honestly going back go 2020 only the Rams game fits that description and we needed a Herculean effort by Allen and a very iffy illegal contact call. Most of the other games were one score, but really it was just garbage time stats by the other teams to make it seem more respectable. 
 

The “one score game thing” is kind of a mirage, but I will say since we got hexed by the Hail Murray we just can’t seem to put together a clutch drive late in the fourth to take the lead when we need it. The Bills always come up juuust short. 
 

I guess 20 years of watching Brady do that ***** constantly just has me thinking it should be easier than it seems. 

 

I can agree with this post.  For Josh Allen specifically, I count the Chiefs playoff game last year.  He was clutch and he was let down by the special teams and defense.

4 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

I can't think of anything John Ritter wasn't great in.

 

I wouldn't have wanted anyone else in The $25,000 Pyramid.  

[Gugny]

4 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I can agree with this post.  For Josh Allen specifically, I count the Chiefs playoff game last year.  He was clutch and he was let down by the special teams and defense.

 

I wouldn't have wanted anyone else in The $25,000 Pyramid.  

 

What about Paul Lynn?

[Royale with Cheese]

5 minutes ago, Gugny said:

 

What about Paul Lynn?

 

I think if you're going to have a Mount Rushmore of panelists for $25,000 Pyramid...it would be:

Paul Lynn

John Ritter

Shelley Long

Richard Dean Anderson