Poor coaching by McDermott is becoming a theme

[DisplacedBillsFan]

Too bad we couldn’t convince a really good coach to come to Buffalo, like a Rex Ryan or someone. 

[FilthyBeast]

I'm a big McD critic but I give him a lot of credit for the job he did yesterday and putting the 'can't win close games' narrative to rest, at least temporarily.

 

Still think the Ravens are going to win their division and are a legit SB contender which makes this a big time win for tie breaker purposes as well.

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

He is 100% correct. Most constructive criticism of the Bills aren't welcome here. Be prepared for a backlash. Labeled as a hater, a fan of another team,  a troll, and getting banned for the smallest of technicalities. I think most here aren't looking for sympathy or playing the victim. Rather some feel they can't or shouldn't express  negativity due to the consequences. 

 

Nah if people got banned for the smallest of technicalities then FilthyBeast would have been banned long ago.  This moderation team is pretty good and for the most part lets people say their peace about the Bills. On BBMB you couldnt say anything without being banned.  I was being stalked and harrased by someone on that board.  Dude literally followed me from thread to thread harrasing me and I got banned instead because one day I got tired of it and I stood up for myself.  You had to walk on egg shells there because there were clearly mods that had power go to their head and certain posters were friends of them and untouchable.

 

You also dont seem to understand the difference of opinion and people that have agendas that have to drive it in every single post they make.  People that make posts criticizing things when it doesnt even make sense to criticize because they have tunnel vision about their opinion.  I've seen people get pure negative on the team after the Bills blew out the other team the same day.  Im sorry but thats just insane.  Thats not just opinion.  Thats agenda.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Scott7975

[newcam2012]

8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

 

People are more than willing to have constructive criticism - he issue is the few that push a narrative, but do not really discuss.  They just keep stating the same incorrect garbage over and over - even when there has been concrete proof to show the other side.

 

For example - here was a huge complaint by a specific poster about how McD was to blame for not challenging the Davis “catch” in the Miami game.

 

Tons of proof as provided stating why it was not a TD, but the poster just kept repeating it was a catch with no poof.  It is fine to present your case, but when you are the only one that sees it a certain way and your whole reason is that is how you feel - maybe express yourself once or twice and then move on rather than making it crusade over and over.

 

 

I'll take that advice. Thank you. 

[Solomon Grundy]

The only problem I have with the decision making of this coach is with player personnel. One question is why won't they deactivate Moss for a game and bring up Duke Johnson to see if he can inject some energy into the running game? Why didn't he sit Gabe down until his ankle is healthy and give the younger guys some burn? 

[Scott7975]

34 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

No it's not. I know many who feel otherwise. Your insight here is off here. It allows you and others to go on the attack. Who makes the distinction you are saying? Where is the line drawn? How can you prove what you are claiming? 

 

Hi back and look at my posts and see the attacks I received. Many were way out there saying I'm a fan of another time, attacking me personally, etc...Totally false! I do accept the professional criticism frim many on here. I clearly went way overboard and beat a dead horse. I keep my mouth shut and took their advice. 

 

You spent like 2 hours crying about a roughing the passer call bro.

[Billsfan1972]

McD has a huge following and there are some who see absolutely no wrong in anything he does.  

 

He's improved dramatically as a coach, particularly on the offensive side of things.  Again I think this is 90% due to Allen, but he has done a much better job.

 

Still there are plenty of calls to questions, but this is the same with all coaches.

 

But yes and I've call them this before, there are a segment of posters here who are 100% McD apologists.

 

Yesterday I frankly was never worried and thought the Bills would win.  Their toughest foe was the weather.

[newcam2012]

6 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Nah if people got banned for the smallest of technicalities then FilthyBeast would have been banned long ago.  This moderation team is pretty good and for the most part lets people say their peace about the Bills. On BBMB you couldnt say anything without being banned.  I was being stalked and harrased by someone on that board.  Dude literally followed me from thread to thread harrasing me and I got banned instead because one day I got tired of it and I stood up for myself.  You had to walk on egg shells there because there were clearly mods that had power go to their head and certain posters were friends of them and untouchable.

 

You also dont seem to understand the difference of opinion and people that have agendas that have to drive it in every single post they make.  People that make posts criticizing things when it doesnt even make sense to criticize because they have tunnel vision about their opinion.  I've seen people get pure negative on the team after the Bills blew out the other team the same day.  Im sorry but thats just insane.  Thats not just opinion.  Thats agenda.

I hear you. I mean people have differing views. Not sure why anyone has an agenda here. That seems bizarre to me.  

[teef]

Just now, Billsfan1972 said:

McD has a huge following and there are some who see absolutely no wrong in anything he does.  

 

He's improved dramatically as a coach, particularly on the offensive side of things.  Again I think this is 90% due to Allen, but he has done a much better job.

 

Still there are plenty of calls to questions, but this is the same with all coaches.

 

But yes and I've call them this before, there are a segment of posters here who are 100% McD apologists.

 

Yesterday I frankly was never worried and thought the Bills would win.  Their toughest foe was the weather.

nonsense.  he's certainly not a perfect coach and he needs to improve in certain areas of his game, but the criticism he gets from certain posters is insane.  for no reason at all, you just don't like that he's tied in with improving the culture.  why?

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear you. I mean people have differing views. Not sure why anyone has an agenda here. That seems bizarre to me.  

so...you don't think filthybeast has an agenda?

[Mynamemike]

44 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Rex Ryan.  What does it matter?  McD got this team to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor and Nate Peterman at QB with Zay Jones as the #1 receiver and some other nobody.

That other nobody was none other than kelvin Benjamin the man, the myth, the legend.  Don’t forget about Robert foster!  WR room was stacked those years!  

[Rochesterfan]

4 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

I'll take that advice. Thank you. 

 

It is not necessarily for you - we all do it.  We pitch our tents on a mountain/hill and die there.

 

It is good to have discussions back and forth with proof and reasoning as that helps us grow.

 

It is bad to have back and forths where it is - I think this and I am right - especially when everyone else is going - wait maybe you need to look at this.

 

I don’t know maybe it is just the new world, but there must be room for opinions if people have valid reasons that they share.

 

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

Coach has something to say to the OP

 

 

[CodeMonkey]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

OK I will tell you why.

 

How many drives did the Ravens stop the Bills in the second half?  One..  

 

4:15 on the clock ad a FG puts Bills in 4 down mode as well.  You know same Bills that the entire second half Ravens D had no answer for.

 

They dont score Allen would have had 4 min to go 98 yards or 50 for FG.

 

 

Now fast forward because we have the ability of hindsight.  Bills got to the 1 yard line with 1:01 left in the game, and a RB that would have scored the TD but fell down on purpose.  A FG there and Harbaugh is giving up, he knew it everyone knows it except the old school people that dont want to accept Math can guide you.

I agree with how the Bills handled the clock at the end.  Superb actually.  

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, newcam2012 said:

I hear you. I mean people have differing views. Not sure why anyone has an agenda here. That seems bizarre to me.  

 

Differing views is not the problem.  I have a lot of different views than other people.  I dont feel people call me troll or anything like that.  Its because I listen too.  When I feel I am wrong I concede.  When I feel I am right then I just agree to disagree.  What I dont do is spend all day every single thread saying the same thing over and over even when the evidence points otherwise.  

 

There are certain people that do that.  Not saying you are one of them. An example would be like people making a huge deal out of the "0-7" in close games that completely ignore the season just before we were 5-1.  Still carrying on that same mantra even after today when we are 1-1 this season.  Thats the type of stuff that gets a little troll worthy label in my book.

[newcam2012]

2 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

You spent like 2 hours crying about a roughing the passer call bro.

I know I get that. I get over passionate about football and the Bills. I'm trying to improve my behavior. Also, sometimes I try to force my opinion on others. Another flaw of mine. I took the advice of posters who rightfully pointed out my inapporiate insistent responses. It too me far too long to shut up. I thank people for doing so. I don't take things personally here. 

[Dopey]

1 minute ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Differing views is not the problem.  I have a lot of different views than other people.  I dont feel people call me troll or anything like that.  Its because I listen too.  When I feel I am wrong I concede.  When I feel I am right then I just agree to disagree.  What I dont do is spend all day every single thread saying the same thing over and over even when the evidence points otherwise.  

 

There are certain people that do that.  Not saying you are one of them. An example would be like people making a huge deal out of the "0-7" in close games that completely ignore the season just before we were 5-1.  Still carrying on that same mantra even after today when we are 1-1 this season.  Thats the type of stuff that gets a little troll worthy label in my book.

Bingo.

[Billsfan1972]

4 minutes ago, teef said:

nonsense.  he's certainly not a perfect coach and he needs to improve in certain areas of his game, but the criticism he gets from certain posters is insane.  for no reason at all, you just don't like that he's tied in with improving the culture.  why?

so...you don't think filthybeast has an agenda?

What more can I say to defend him?  I said he's improved and given him props and kudos.  

 

My comment was to those who seldom question him and say he's 100% responsible for all this (yes paraphrasing).

 

I also said all coaches make mistakes.

[Scott7975]

Just now, newcam2012 said:

I know I get that. I get over passionate about football and the Bills. I'm trying to improve my behavior. Also, sometimes I try to force my opinion on others. Another flaw of mine. I took the advice of posters who rightfully pointed out my inapporiate insistent responses. It too me far too long to shut up. I thank people for doing so. I don't take things personally here. 

 

Yeah like I dont even care you had that opinion.  Its just how long you went on about it and I got tired of hearing it.  All good man.  I get passion.

 

Another example... we had a guy in another thread complaining about the clock management in both the first half and second half where we scored a TD leaving 9 seconds on the clock and ended the game with a game winning field goal.  Thats some trollish ***** right there.

[CodeMonkey]

2 hours ago, Motor26 said:

 

I assume you disagreed with McD's correct call to go for it om 4th down vs. Tennessee last year too. When you have QB's like Josh or Lamar, you go for it. 

I don't remember that specifically.  But calls like that are game situation based and far more involved that saying I have a solid QB so I'm going for it.  I think a lot of the time McDermott thinks along the same lines as you do though.

[Rochesterfan]

7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

The only problem I have with the decision making of this coach is with player personnel. One question is why won't they deactivate Moss for a game and bring up Duke Johnson to see if he can inject some energy into the running game? Why didn't he sit Gabe down until his ankle is healthy and give the younger guys some burn? 

 

I believe other than game 1 they have been forced to call up 2 position players for DL and CB to help cover for injuries.  They get limited call ups and had to cover the injuried spots first.  Maybe Johnson gets called up one we get through this rash of injuries and they have a spot to call him up.

 

It looks like versus Pittsburgh - we are going to need WR and maybe 2 WRs or another DL if Phillips isn’t back - so I do not see a spot o Johnson this week.

 

JMO

 

[newcam2012]

9 minutes ago, teef said:

nonsense.  he's certainly not a perfect coach and he needs to improve in certain areas of his game, but the criticism he gets from certain posters is insane.  for no reason at all, you just don't like that he's tied in with improving the culture.  why?

so...you don't think filthybeast has an agenda?

To be honest I don't know because I don't follow posters. 

[Scott7975]

1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

What more can I say to defend him?  I said he's improved and given him props and kudos.  

 

My comment was to those who seldom question him and say he's 100% responsible for all this (yes paraphrasing).

 

I also said all coaches make mistakes.

 

I dont think there is a poster on the board that thinks McD is perfect.  Everyone knows the guy makes mistakes.  Most people recognize that he is also a damn good coach and probably one of the best in the league.  Andy Reid was fired.  He was also criticized heavily for coaching decisions in both Philly and KC until he won the big one.  Even during Mahomes first couple years.

[MAJBobby]

10 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said:

I agree with how the Bills handled the clock at the end.  Superb actually.  

They also handled the end of the half perfectly as well.  

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

IMO, McDermott's early hiring miscues resulted from his inability to hire top quality offensive assistants with the money allotted to the coaching budgets in 2017 and 2018 rather than offensive cluelessness.

 

When McDermott was hired in 2017, he came into a situation with a GM who was mainly a talent scout because team budgets, including for the coaching staff, were set by the FO  bean counters under Russ Brandon, whose priority was maximizing profits not winning football games.   McDermott was instrumental in the hiring of Brandon Beane after Doug Whaley was fired after the 2017 draft.   Beane had somewhat more power than Whaley, but he didn't gain full GM powers, including the ability to control the budgets for coaching and scouting staffs, until after Russ Brandon was fired in mid-2018.  

 

McDermott and Beane hired Brian Daboll in 2018 and then selected Allen in the 2018 draft.  After the 2018 season, all of the offensive assistants except for Daboll were fired, and more and better (ie, more expensive) offensive assistants were hired, including Ken Dorsey as QB coach.   It was in 2019 under Dorsey's tutelage that Allen began to develop into a competent NFL QB.

 

 

I am not sure it had anything to do with budgets. I am sure I remember that Rex's second year the Bills had one of highest pay bills for a coaching staff in the entire league. I don't think since the Pegulas bought the team that has ever been a problem. It was much more reputation IMHO.

 

How attractive is a first time Head Coach, in a cold city, small market, with a team on the longest post season drought in the league and a history of firing coaches? It meant that first staff generally had to be guys who knew Sean and had some personal loyalty to him / trusted him or guys who had no other options. Remember his first OC search? He wanted Mike McCoy as his first choice (bullet dodged he is awful). He chose to go back to Denver for a second stint instead. Then he wanted Brad Childress who was co-OC with Matt Nagy in Kansas City (and bearing in mind Andy is the playcaller that is a bag carriee role) and Childress declined to even take the interview. Then he wanted Greg Olson who took a QB Coach job with the Rams rather than come here. He was left with Dennison.

 

It was a staff of people he had connections with or people whose stock was low. 

 

Rick Dennison OC (just been fired as OC in Denver and his buddy Kubiak was retiring). 

Juan Castillo OL (worked with McD before)

David Culley QB (worked with McD before)

Kelly Skipper RB (just been fired in Jacksonville)

Phil McGeoghan WR (hired from East Carolina University so one can imagine had crossed paths with McDermott in some way while he was with the Panthers)

Rob Boras TE (probably the biggest "get" at the time a respected Tight Ends coach but had a disastrous year as OC in LA and had been fired)

Leslie Frazier (worked with McD before)

Mike Waufle (had just been fired in LA)

Bobby Babich DB (worked as a defensive quality control guy for McD in Carolina)

Bob Babich LB (Bobby's dad)

 

It was not an attractive place to come. Only 4 are still here. Frazier, Babich Jnr, Boras and Skipper. Chad Hall our current WR coach was on that staff in a junior post as an Offensive Assistant too. 

 

The likes of Joe Brady and Aaron Kromer were not walking throught the door in 2017. 

[Billsfan1972]

4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

They also handled the end of the half perfectly as well.  

There I'm agreeing & praising McD.....  

 

What a difference a week makes!!!!😝😉

[teef]

12 minutes ago, Billsfan1972 said:

What more can I say to defend him?  I said he's improved and given him props and kudos.  

 

My comment was to those who seldom question him and say he's 100% responsible for all this (yes paraphrasing).

 

I also said all coaches make mistakes.

i don't think a single poster said his 100% responsible for this, or anything remotely close.  it's mcd, josh, beane, the staff, and all the guys on the team.  it's a group effort, but mcd is the one who has to be the ring leader.   if you don't love mcd as a coach, i don't have a problem with it.  i just don't get the vitriol some have over a coach who as done well.  not perfect, but this team is in good shape.

11 minutes ago, newcam2012 said:

To be honest I don't know because I don't follow posters. 

you told me you didn't think anyone has an agenda, yet you don't follow posters?  quite frankly, it's impossible to ignore certain posters.  mostly because they shove their opinion down your throat.  

[Einstein]

50 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

You should really self reflect on your posting if you think you are only 30% negative.  I asked you to show me a positive post before 

 

Here are the topics of every thread I have ever started

 

- I’m proud of this team!

- Weather forecast thread for Patriots game

- Tweet from Josh Allen 

- Schedule makers gave us an advantage 

- AFC East Power Rankings 

- Josh Allen hitting a home run

- Funny Josh Allen video 

- Internet rumor about Bills being concerned about Elam

- Poll about who will win 1st game of season

- Allen was amazing despite what coverage the Rams showed him

- Coin tosses contributed to KC loss

- Cool Bills/Beatles photo

- Study on ACL injuries and whether players are the same after (Tre White)

- Could Aaron Donald miss Week 1 due to helmet swinging?

- What Daboll did in the final seconds of Giants game 

- Titans player says PFF raises grades if players pay them

- Video of Dolphins fans saying they want to face the Bills

- The short yardage conundrum

- Are the Bills too conservative about injuries?

- Cole Beasleys Buffalo home is for sale

- Poor coaching by McDermott is becoming a theme

- Thread talking about how I was sad we lost to the Chiefs and the season being over 

- Does part of you miss losing (poorly worded… do you miss the excitement of close games, checking the playoff calculator, draft stuff, etc)

- Game theory and situational game awareness and how it is our achilles heal

- McDermotts defensive timeouts are not working 

 

How many of those are actually “negative”? 20%? 30% at most? I think you pay attention to the negative threads more-so than the positive or neutral threads and assign far too much weight to them.

 

I think if you look at the list above you can see that i’m a fairly balanced poster. I have threads where critique the team.Threads where I celebrate the team. Threads where I mourn the team. 

 

27 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said:

It is not necessarily for you - we all do it.  We pitch our tents on a mountain/hill and die there.

 

Says the person who was shown (with proof) that “surviving the ground” was removed from the NFL rule book, and instead of admitting he was mistaken, continues to argue the point.

 

.

Edited October 3, 2022 by Einstein

[WyoAZBillfan]

5 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Here are the topics of every thread I have ever started

 

- I’m proud of this team!

- Weather forecast thread for Patriots game

- Tweet from Josh Allen 

- Schedule makers gave us an advantage 

- AFC East Power Rankings 

- Josh Allen hitting a home run

- Funny Josh Allen video 

- Internet rumor about Bills being concerned about Elam

- Poll about who will win 1st game of season

- Allen was amazing despite what coverage the Rams showed him

- Coin tosses contributed to KC loss

- Cool Bills/Beatles photo

- Study on ACL injuries and whether players are the same after (Tre White)

- Could Aaron Donald miss Week 1 due to helmet swinging?

- What Daboll did in the final seconds of Giants game 

- Titans player says PFF raises grades if players pay them

- Video of Dolphins fans saying they want to face the Bills

- The short yardage conundrum

- Are the Bills too conservative about injuries?

- Cole Beasleys Buffalo home is for sale

- Poor coaching by McDermott is becoming a theme

- Thread talking about how I was sad we lost to the Chiefs and the season being over 

- Does part of you miss losing (poorly worded… do you miss the excitement of close games, checking the playoff calculator, draft stuff, etc)

- Game theory and situational game awareness and how it is our achilles heal

- McDermotts defensive timeouts are not working 

 

How many of those are actually “negative”? 20%? 30% at most? I think you pay attention to the negative threads more-so than the positive or neutral threads and assign far too much weight to them.

 

I think if you look at the list above you can see that i’m a fairly balanced poster. I have threads where critique the team.Threads where I celebrate the team. Threads where I mourn the team. 

Are you purposefully highjacking your own thread? Positive, negative, whatever at least be relevant to the topic instead of bumping your own threads and patting your back. 
Poor threads are becoming a theme. 

[Einstein]

5 minutes ago, WyoAZBillfan said:

Are you purposefully highjacking your own thread? Positive, negative, whatever at least be relevant to the topic instead of bumping your own threads and patting your back. 
Poor threads are becoming a theme. 

 

Are you joking? Why would I bump this thread after a win where the coaches were fantastic in halftime adjustments?

 

Use your eyes and go back a page and you can see that other posts bumped this thread in order to mock me.

[WyoAZBillfan]

7 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Are you joking? Why would I bump this thread after a win where the coaches were fantastic in halftime adjustments?

 

Use your eyes and go back a page and you can see that other posts bumped this thread in order to mock me.

I had “went back pages “looking for relevant information, or conversation about the temperature of the coaching decisions. Unfortunately most of the posts were nothing but a poster justifying threads. As quoted previously with one of said posts. 
Also there is a thread on great adjustments made as well🤷🏼‍♂️ 
What my eyes show me is a thread that should be buried at this point as I’m now adding to the garbage and not the topic

[Scott7975]

30 minutes ago, Einstein said:

 

Here are the topics of every thread I have ever started

 

- I’m proud of this team!

- Weather forecast thread for Patriots game

- Tweet from Josh Allen 

- Schedule makers gave us an advantage 

- AFC East Power Rankings 

- Josh Allen hitting a home run

- Funny Josh Allen video 

- Internet rumor about Bills being concerned about Elam

- Poll about who will win 1st game of season

- Allen was amazing despite what coverage the Rams showed him

- Coin tosses contributed to KC loss

- Cool Bills/Beatles photo

- Study on ACL injuries and whether players are the same after (Tre White)

- Could Aaron Donald miss Week 1 due to helmet swinging?

- What Daboll did in the final seconds of Giants game 

- Titans player says PFF raises grades if players pay them

- Video of Dolphins fans saying they want to face the Bills

- The short yardage conundrum

- Are the Bills too conservative about injuries?

- Cole Beasleys Buffalo home is for sale

- Poor coaching by McDermott is becoming a theme

- Thread talking about how I was sad we lost to the Chiefs and the season being over 

- Does part of you miss losing (poorly worded… do you miss the excitement of close games, checking the playoff calculator, draft stuff, etc)

- Game theory and situational game awareness and how it is our achilles heal

- McDermotts defensive timeouts are not working 

 

How many of those are actually “negative”? 20%? 30% at most? I think you pay attention to the negative threads more-so than the positive or neutral threads and assign far too much weight to them.

 

I think if you look at the list above you can see that i’m a fairly balanced poster. I have threads where critique the team.Threads where I celebrate the team. Threads where I mourn the team. 

 

 

Says the person who was shown (with proof) that “surviving the ground” was removed from the NFL rule book, and instead of admitting he was mistaken, continues to argue the point.

 

.

 

I dunno.  Id have to read your actual posts in all those threads to see and I am not about to do that.  Not worth my time.  Thread titles dont account for your entire post history either so you thinking you are going to pass a handful of thread titles compared to your 1.3k posts and pass it off as you are only 20-30% negative is being disingenuous.

[SoTier]

46 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

I am not sure it had anything to do with budgets. I am sure I remember that Rex's second year the Bills had one of highest pay bills for a coaching staff in the entire league. I don't think since the Pegulas bought the team that has ever been a problem. It was much more reputation IMHO.

 

How attractive is a first time Head Coach, in a cold city, small market, with a team on the longest post season drought in the league and a history of firing coaches? It meant that first staff generally had to be guys who knew Sean and had some personal loyalty to him / trusted him or guys who had no other options. Remember his first OC search? He wanted Mike McCoy as his first choice (bullet dodged he is awful). He chose to go back to Denver for a second stint instead. Then he wanted Brad Childress who was co-OC with Matt Nagy in Kansas City (and bearing in mind Andy is the playcaller that is a bag carriee role) and Childress declined to even take the interview. Then he wanted Greg Olson who took a QB Coach job with the Rams rather than come here. He was left with Dennison.

 

It was a staff of people he had connections with or people whose stock was low. 

 

Rick Dennison OC (just been fired as OC in Denver and his buddy Kubiak was retiring). 

Juan Castillo OL (worked with McD before)

David Culley QB (worked with McD before)

Kelly Skipper RB (just been fired in Jacksonville)

Phil McGeoghan WR (hired from East Carolina University so one can imagine had crossed paths with McDermott in some way while he was with the Panthers)

Rob Boras TE (probably the biggest "get" at the time a respected Tight Ends coach but had a disastrous year as OC in LA and had been fired)

Leslie Frazier (worked with McD before)

Mike Waufle (had just been fired in LA)

Bobby Babich DB (worked as a defensive quality control guy for McD in Carolina)

Bob Babich LB (Bobby's dad)

 

It was not an attractive place to come. Only 4 are still here. Frazier, Babich Jnr, Boras and Skipper. Chad Hall our current WR coach was on that staff in a junior post as an Offensive Assistant too. 

 

The likes of Joe Brady and Aaron Kromer were not walking throught the door in 2017. 

 

Fair enough.   I think that the spending by Ryan was an outlier because the Bills almost always hired first time HCs (Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkey) or retreads (Dick Jauron, Chan Gailey).  McDermott seemed to signal a return to the same old-same old mindset.  I think that Pegula turning over control of the team over to Beane after firing Brandon enabled McDermott to hire better assistants in 2019 because he could not only offer them more competitive salaries but also signaled to the rest of the league that the new Bills regime put a priority on winning not just making a profit.  

[newcam2012]

2 hours ago, teef said:

i don't think a single poster said his 100% responsible for this, or anything remotely close.  it's mcd, josh, beane, the staff, and all the guys on the team.  it's a group effort, but mcd is the one who has to be the ring leader.   if you don't love mcd as a coach, i don't have a problem with it.  i just don't get the vitriol some have over a coach who as done well.  not perfect, but this team is in good shape.

you told me you didn't think anyone has an agenda, yet you don't follow posters?  quite frankly, it's impossible to ignore certain posters.  mostly because they shove their opinion down your throat.  

To be honest I an not familiar with a lot of the posters on here. I often scroll through the posts pretty quickly unless one grabs my attention. I'm really not aware of Einstein's behavior whether good bad or indifferent. I have a hard enough time taking care of myself and my posts. I'm really not here to defend or offend anyone. I just like good knowledgeable football talk. 

[RocCityRoller]

What a masterclass in strategy and execution in the last 4:00+ minutes.

 

This coaching staff and this roster managed a dream end of game scenario on the road against a playoff caliber team.

Most of us know exactly how it is supposed to be done, and have watched hundreds of Bills games and rarely if ever see our team do it.

 

Every once in a while you see other teams with cagey championship level coaches and All-Pro QBs do this and wonder why we can't have nice things too.

Well it was McDermott and Buffalo's turn. What a completely wonderful thing to watch your team do. Strategy, execution, everyone understood what had to be done, and did it.

 

McDermott and Co. may be learning. Comeback victory from double digits down, ran the clock out to 0:00 at the end and won a 1 score game. All against a playoff level team, with an MVP QB and Championship level coach. Our guys were the ones making and executing the right calls to leave the other team helpless. This game may be one of the 5 most important victories McBeane have had to date.

 

I'm very impressed. A big step forward as a coach and staff.

 

[RocCityRoller]

7 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

KC and Tampa I am giving you. TEN was not a bad spot, it was an OL that got blown up. Miami they were in attemptable FG range at least and then the RT got beat and so committed a gratuitous holding penalty. In Jacksonville they gave up a terrible sack. At home to the Patriots Josh got hit on his last two pass attempts as he released the ball. The constant in four of those seven defeats is scrub OLine men getting beat and killing drives. 

 

Let's add the Houston playoff game where the defense gave up a double digit lead, but Buffalo was driving for the game winning score and Cody Ford gets called for a penalty that puts them out of FG range.

 

The OL is a constant sore spot that gets band-aids applied every off season. It must be addressed, and a few of us on here have been pointing this out for 2-3 years now.

[T master]

There's always got to be the one that is B**CHING for god sake the Bills have been in the play offs pretty much ever since McD got here & this guy is still B**CHING i bet he'd B**CH if you hung him with a new rope ...

 

Carry on !! 

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, SoTier said:

 

Fair enough.   I think that the spending by Ryan was an outlier because the Bills almost always hired first time HCs (Gregg Williams, Mike Mularkey) or retreads (Dick Jauron, Chan Gailey).  McDermott seemed to signal a return to the same old-same old mindset.  I think that Pegula turning over control of the team over to Beane after firing Brandon enabled McDermott to hire better assistants in 2019 because he could not only offer them more competitive salaries but also signaled to the rest of the league that the new Bills regime put a priority on winning not just making a profit.  

 

The Pegulas were never scared to spend money. 

[Royale with Cheese]

23 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

The Pegulas were never scared to spend money. 

What were the adjustments we made on both sides of the ball yesterday?

[GunnerBill]

18 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

What were the adjustments we made on both sides of the ball yesterday?

 

Haven't watched the all22 yet to get a better understanding. Normally out tomorrow. On offense some of it was we just settled in and executed. It was very frantic early. On defense we seemes to get a grip of the inside run game a little better 2nd half. Made them bounce everything which gave Edmunds and Milano and Taron time to get up to it and tackle. And then when you need your playmakers to make plays Josh Allen and Jordan Poyer made them. 

[Motor26]

2 hours ago, RocCityRoller said:

What a masterclass in strategy and execution in the last 4:00+ minutes.

 

This coaching staff and this roster managed a dream end of game scenario on the road against a playoff caliber team.

Most of us know exactly how it is supposed to be done, and have watched hundreds of Bills games and rarely if ever see our team do it.

 

 

 

 

Was absolutely beautiful to watch. You can even see Singletary go down at the 3 yard line at the end instead of going in for the TD.