BillsPride12 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Mittelstadt has to be a core guy going forward at this point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayg Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsPride12 said: Mittelstadt has to be a core guy going forward at this point? Well, he surely came on down the stretch. Can he improve upon his scoring and tighten up his defense? If yes, then yes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 2 ***** pts (we lost the tie breakers) sheesh, BUT 91 pts and best season in years! young team with a lot of prospects and stable front office and coaching is so refreshing. On to 23-24! Plus we get to see The Leafs get eliminated in the first round again which is always a good thing to cheer us up. 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: Mittelstadt has to be a core guy going forward at this point? I had given up on MItts then he suddenly got good, go figure. i'm still not convinced he's a keeper I guess a lot comes down to $$$ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Core team going forward?... Thompson Cozens Tuch Skinner Mitts Dahlin Samuelsson Power Levi Lot of other players on the team, or in the system, that I like. Big Krebs fan, for example. But anyone not listed above could be dealt if it meant getting better pieces around these guys. IMO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Was at the game last night here in Cbus. Sabres played well and have a good effort even though the game didn’t mean anything. Too bad they had those two long stretches this year of bad hockey, or else they’d have made it. Fun year though and they really should be in good position next year to make some noise. Levi’s play has been very encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, billsfanmiamioh said: Was at the game last night here in Cbus. Sabres played well and have a good effort even though the game didn’t mean anything. Too bad they had those two long stretches this year of bad hockey, or else they’d have made it. Fun year though and they really should be in good position next year to make some noise. Levi’s play has been very encouraging. Seemed like there was a lot of Sabres fans in attendance from what watching it on tv. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 Samuelsson missing 1/3 of the season was a killer. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) Well, I said at th beginning of the season that if the Sabres were at least able to stay in the playoff race till the end I would consider it a successful season and step forward in the rebuild. the Sabres missed the playoffs by a single win. Doesn’t get much closer than that! Just one more win and they’d have the last wildcard spot… 😩 I think it’s undeniable that they took a step forward this season. I’m proud of the progress they’ve made and excited to see what they do next year. Missing the playoffs by one win leaves me thinking back on a lot of different losses this season. Any one would’ve made the difference. The one that sticks in my mind right now - that loss to the Isles with the kicked in goal. NHL officiating is such a crap shoot. As much as I complain about NFL officiating, the NHL is worse. You never know how they will choose to implement a rule on a given night. It’s aggravating. Same goes for the NHL department of player safety. I swear they just throw a dart at a board to determine suspensions. Im not blaming NHL officiating on the Sabres missing the playoffs. But they sure didn’t do them any favors either. what really sunk Buffalo was that 9 game stretch in March with 8 losses. Edited April 15, 2023 by BillsFan4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFan4 said: Well, I said at th beginning of the season that if the Sabres were at least able to stay in the playoff race till the end I would consider it a successful season and step forward in the rebuild. the Sabres missed the playoffs by a single win. Doesn’t get much closer than that! Just one more win and they’d have the last wildcard spot… 😩 I think it’s undeniable that they took a step forward this season. I’m proud of the progress they’ve made and excited to see what they do next year. Missing the playoffs by one win leaves me thinking back on a lot of different losses this season. Any one would’ve made the difference. The one that sticks in my mind right now - that loss to the Isles with the kicked in goal. NHL officiating is such a crap shoot. As much as I complain about NFL officiating, the NHL is worse. You never know how they will choose to implement a rule on a given night. It’s aggravating. Same goes for the NHL department of player safety. I swear they just throw a dart at a board to determine suspensions. Im not blaming NHL officiating on the Sabres missing the playoffs. But they sure didn’t do them any favors either. what really sunk Buffalo was that 9 game stretch in March with 8 losses. It was a clear redirect with his leg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 This is gonna be amazing! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 18 hours ago, BillsPride12 said: Mittelstadt has to be a core guy going forward at this point? Either that or a very valuable piece to move for another top 4 d-man. I’d like to think he will be with us for a while. He really found his game this season. Edited April 15, 2023 by Beast 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 16 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Core team going forward?... Thompson Cozens Tuch Skinner Mitts Dahlin Samuelsson Power Levi Lot of other players on the team, or in the system, that I like. Big Krebs fan, for example. But anyone not listed above could be dealt if it meant getting better pieces around these guys. IMO I think you definitely need to add Quinn to that list and Peterka is likely to get there, imo. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan4 Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Doc said: It was a clear redirect with his leg. Correct. “Rule 78.5: When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be no goal.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 15, 2023 Share Posted April 15, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BillsFan4 said: Correct. “Rule 78.5: When the puck has been directed, batted or thrown into the net by an attacking player other than with a stick. When this occurs, if it is deemed to be done deliberately, then the decision shall be no goal.” Dunno, we always seem to be on the wrong end of bad calls. I was living in Dallas when Brett Hull stole a Stanley Cup. Getting kind of sick of it. Edited April 15, 2023 by Dr. Who 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 On 4/14/2023 at 10:09 PM, Draconator said: Can you imagine how insufferable Leafs fans will be if they win the cup? Imagination is likely to be required on that topic for a long time. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I know this means next to nothing but I think it's cute. May I present Snoopy in Sabres gear FTW lol gotta love it. 💙💛💙 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 17 hours ago, Dr. Who said: I think you definitely need to add Quinn to that list and Peterka is likely to get there, imo. I dunno. That was kinda my point. I'm trying to be extra judicious in who gets assigned to the current core list. There are a BUNCH of young, valuable, promising prospects in the the Sabres system. Many of which most fans wouldnt really want to trade. Quinn, Peterka, Jost, Krebs, etc, etc. But I think any of them could be moved if it means getting the team a key piece to advance to the next level. Maybe they show something and move themselves to the core list next season, but they arent there yet, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, DrDawkinstein said: I dunno. That was kinda my point. I'm trying to be extra judicious in who gets assigned to the current core list. There are a BUNCH of young, valuable, promising prospects in the the Sabres system. Many of which most fans wouldnt really want to trade. Quinn, Peterka, Jost, Krebs, etc, etc. But I think any of them could be moved if it means getting the team a key piece to advance to the next level. Maybe they show something and move themselves to the core list next season, but they arent there yet, imo. I understand. I think you are underrating where Quinn is now and he is going to get better. I think he is already considered core by KA and the coaching staff. Peterka is not there yet. I just believe he is likely to get there. Jost is a try hard bottom six who is probably right now your 13th forward. He may or may not be back. I like Krebs. He needs to get stronger and continue to develop. I think he can be a pesky bottom six player. I don't see his ceiling as core, however. I like him as 4C that could grow into a 3C. VO is the most probable piece to be moved in a package for a top 4D. There are a lot of pretty good UFA D this year as well. Wouldn't shock me to see either the 2023 1st or 2024 1st included in a trade to get immediate help. It's a crucial offseason -- and the sheer number of promising forwards in the system means they will have to evaluate quicker. Otherwise, teams will lowball KA in trades knowing he can't find a spot for everyone. My guess is they keep Girgs and Okposo retires, but it's not impossible that both are back. I'd like to see Rousek get a shot and that won't happen if they bring both back. I am guessing Savoie makes the team and Kulich is an early call up from Rochester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 hours ago, Dr. Who said: On 4/15/2023 at 5:13 PM, Beast said: Either that or a very valuable piece to move for another top 4 d-man. I’d like to think he will be with us for a while. He really found his game this season. I don't think Mittelstadt is in the core...I expect him to be moved to another team in exchange for a valuable piece coming back. Our problem now is we have a ton of good players, but they are all the same. We need much more of a mix going forward, and good names on this team are going to be moved to get there. That's my assumption, at least. Another guy who could go is Krebs. I fully expect Oloffson to be moved as well. I think Zemgus and Okposo will also be gone, though I could also see signing Okposo to a 1 year deal and retaining him as captain. I'd rather move on from, personally. (Nothing against him, but it's time to call it a career). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: I don't think Mittelstadt is in the core...I expect him to be moved to another team in exchange for a valuable piece coming back. Our problem now is we have a ton of good players, but they are all the same. We need much more of a mix going forward, and good names on this team are going to be moved to get there. That's my assumption, at least. Another guy who could go is Krebs. I fully expect Oloffson to be moved as well. I think Zemgus and Okposo will also be gone, though I could also see signing Okposo to a 1 year deal and retaining him as captain. I'd rather move on from, personally. (Nothing against him, but it's time to call it a career). I think they like Mittelstadt. I'd be surprised if he is moved. I also like who he has become. I think he's a glue guy that can play anywhere from third line up. They might move Krebs, but I suspect he gets next year to see where he develops. VO is going to be moved as part of a package to upgrade D. I'd rather move on from both Z and Okposo, but I think the Sabres value them as leaders and it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of them is back. Rumor on another site is that neither Comrie or UPL is coming back. I would like to bring in a vet like Varlamov to pair with Levi. Same source claims defensive system will be overhauled and new coaches brought in. (Fella is supposed to be related to KA.) Any semblance of system would be a welcome addition. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f0neguy Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Honestly, if they could play any kind of defense I’d try to get UPL to the Amerks. He’s young (as far as goalies go), he has shown flashes of ability. He was rookie of the month earlier this season. Might just need some more time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, f0neguy said: Honestly, if they could play any kind of defense I’d try to get UPL to the Amerks. He’s young (as far as goalies go), he has shown flashes of ability. He was rookie of the month earlier this season. Might just need some more time? Can't send UPL to Rochester without passing through waivers. Someone would claim him. You either keep him on the big club or trade him. Otherwise, you lose him for nothing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 7 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: Can't send UPL to Rochester without passing through waivers. Someone would claim him. You either keep him on the big club or trade him. Otherwise, you lose him for nothing. Which is why he’s not playing in the AHL playoffs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Casey and Dahlin are also best of friends. Not that that would effect how they run their team but they also have a very important contract extension to start hammering out with Dahlin this off-season, and keeping 26 happy is paramount. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 3 hours ago, Dr. Who said: Rumor on another site is that neither Comrie or UPL is coming back. I would like to bring in a vet like Varlamov to pair with Levi. Same source claims defensive system will be overhauled and new coaches brought in. (Fella is supposed to be related to KA.) Any semblance of system would be a welcome addition. I hope it's true. Right now there isn't a proven goaltender on the roster, and entering the season as-is would be insanity. Could you imagine if the unthinkable happens and Levi goes down for the year in October and we're forced to try to run it back with UPL and Comrie? We'd likely be flushing (another) entire season down the drain. It would be devastating for both the team and the fanbase. Bring in a vet backup like Valamov or Andersen on a 2-year deal to mentor/shepherd in the Levi era. A competent GM shouldn't have any issues moving a young goalie like UPL with his minimum salary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 5 hours ago, Dr. Who said: I think they like Mittelstadt. I'd be surprised if he is moved. I also like who he has become. I think he's a glue guy that can play anywhere from third line up. They might move Krebs, but I suspect he gets next year to see where he develops. VO is going to be moved as part of a package to upgrade D. I'd rather move on from both Z and Okposo, but I think the Sabres value them as leaders and it wouldn't surprise me if at least one of them is back. Rumor on another site is that neither Comrie or UPL is coming back. I would like to bring in a vet like Varlamov to pair with Levi. Same source claims defensive system will be overhauled and new coaches brought in. (Fella is supposed to be related to KA.) Any semblance of system would be a welcome addition. System I can deal with just don't say process please 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 Levi will be here from the start. The offense is already elite. The core is very young and already good. If they improve the defense with the draft/FA, then I see this team getting around 110 points next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted April 17, 2023 Share Posted April 17, 2023 16 hours ago, Nextmanup said: I don't think Mittelstadt is in the core...I expect him to be moved to another team in exchange for a valuable piece coming back. Our problem now is we have a ton of good players, but they are all the same. We need much more of a mix going forward, and good names on this team are going to be moved to get there. That's my assumption, at least. Another guy who could go is Krebs. I fully expect Oloffson to be moved as well. I think Zemgus and Okposo will also be gone, though I could also see signing Okposo to a 1 year deal and retaining him as captain. I'd rather move on from, personally. (Nothing against him, but it's time to call it a career). I'm ok with Okposo and Girgs coming back solely because our other lines offer nothing in the way of physicality. If all three lines are filling the net then theres no issue, but if you arent producing you have to be difficult to play against. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 (edited) Athletic article out today on the NHL offseason by Michael Russo and Eric Duhatschek. On Winnipeg - "The most pressing matters revolve around Hellebuyck and Scheifele, who come in at Nos. 1 and 2 on our first edition of the offseason trade board. Hellebuyck is one of the NHL’s few true No. 1, workhorse goaltenders. He won the Vezina in 2020 and is a finalist again. How much is he going to want on a long-term deal? Currently making $6.16 million, he could command $9 million-plus on the open market. Can the Jets stomach that? If he becomes available, don’t be surprised if Buffalo and New Jersey take big swings. One thing we’ve heard early this offseason is that the Sabres have interest in Hellebuyck, with the belief that a genuine No. 1 goaltender could be the last remaining piece in turning them into contenders. Getting one would also allow them to hold off on turning the reins over to Devon Levi until he’s proven to be NHL-ready. The Jets would want young team-controlled assets in exchange, and the Sabres have plenty of those — from a youngish goaltender in Ukko-Pekka Luukkonen to promising talents like Peyton Krebs and even Casey Mittelstadt." Edited May 16, 2023 by QCity 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 Carrier and Eichel are doing pretty good ATM 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, Prospector said: Carrier and Eichel are doing pretty good ATM Eichel can suck my left nut. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prospector Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 49 minutes ago, Draconator said: Eichel can suck my left nut. He definitely has the ability to do that and more 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 16, 2023 Share Posted May 16, 2023 On 4/16/2023 at 7:39 PM, Buffalo716 said: Which is why he’s not playing in the AHL playoffs Malcolm Subban had been doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Finally! Lets go Houston Flood Dogs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Finally! Lets go Houston Flood Dogs! “Best sports deal in Arizona history” might be a low bar. What was the second best? I’m guessing BOGO pretzel night at the rodeo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: Finally! Lets go Houston Flood Dogs! Hate to see any market lose their team but I don't see the Coyotes lasting in Arizona long term. Don't they play on a college campus where the seating capacity is around 6,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, Gregg said: Hate to see any market lose their team but I don't see the Coyotes lasting in Arizona long term. Don't they play on a college campus where the seating capacity is around 6,000. The market just voted convincingly to relocate the team. I don't feel that bad for them. I can't imagine a public referendum to keep the Sabres or Bills in town coming even close. Not unless someone leaked open air stadium renderings prior to the vote. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 Sounds like a lot of NIMBY and manipulation in advertising and media turned a lot of people against the proposal. Without delving too deep, it sounds like it was a lot of private money and building the complex on a to-be-cleaned up waste dump. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 These are 2 arenas in Quebec (left) and KC (right) have that the league has options to move the Coyotes. Houston is another possibility, but I don't know if they have the arena unless they share the one the Rockets use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted May 17, 2023 Share Posted May 17, 2023 9 minutes ago, Gregg said: These are 2 arenas in Quebec (left) and KC (right) have that the league has options to move the Coyotes. Houston is another possibility, but I don't know if they have the arena unless they share the one the Rockets use. The Toyota Center in Houston used to host the Aeros who were tops in the IHL in attendance. The Quebec junior team regularly draws 18,000 people but for I got to think the Houston market is more attractive for the NHL. Houston's economy is massive. One bad year for maple sap and Quebec will be looking for a new home. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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