Heath Farwell being “honest” with JAX media…

[eball]

Excerpt from Buffalo News article about Farwell’s PC yesterday:

 

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Farwell, who took over as Jaguars special teams coordinator 17 days after the Bills' playoff loss, was asked if he was haunted by the end of the game and what he might have done differently.

 

"I get that question all the time," Farwell smiled. "To be perfectly honest with you, it’s in the past. I don’t worry about that. Honestly, my answer to that is that’s a question for the Buffalo Bills and Sean McDermott. It’s in the past. I don’t deal with that, to be honest with you.

"That's part of the way I live my life. It’s going forward, and what we’re doing here. I’m loving the guys I work with here. I got a great appreciation for the players there. I had fantastic players, still good friends of mine that I talk to all the time. But down here, I’m trying to build something down here special. That’s what it's about for me. I move on. I honestly don’t think twice about it."

 

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Umm, Heath, I “honestly” don’t believe.you.  Dolt.

 

[GunnerBill]

What don't you believe? He is right, it is in the past and a question for the Bills. You can take the fact that they parted terms as an indication that there was some failure somewhere, but what he actually says there is not untrue. 

[UConn James]

Being honest with people… by toxic-positivity-sidestepping the question.

[Big Turk]

He doesn't want to have to say he F'd up.

[YoloinOhio]

The part I don’t believe is that he doesn’t think twice about it. 

[Bills1961]

he doesn't think twice?  he should have nightmares like we do....

[Don Otreply]

26 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

What don't you believe? He is right, it is in the past and a question for the Bills. You can take the fact that they parted terms as an indication that there was some failure somewhere, but what he actually says there is not untrue. 

Nor is it true, it is just a canned answer to the question asked, note, Levi Wallace is the only one to fess up, and he’s gone too…, both became liabilities that could not be accepted further. 

 

 

[GunnerBill]

3 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Nor is it true, it is just a canned answer to the question asked, note, Levi Wallace is the only one to fess up, and he’s gone too…, both became liabilities that could not be accepted further. 

 

It it true. It is in the past, and it is a question for the Bills really. It is not for a coach who has left to start publicising details about something where the Bills have clearly said they don't want to get into specifics in the public domain. If he had done that it would have been a dick move. 

[Niagara Dude]

56 minutes ago, eball said:

Excerpt from Buffalo News article about Farwell’s PC yesterday:

 

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Farwell, who took over as Jaguars special teams coordinator 17 days after the Bills' playoff loss, was asked if he was haunted by the end of the game and what he might have done differently.

 

"I get that question all the time," Farwell smiled. "To be perfectly honest with you, it’s in the past. I don’t worry about that. Honestly, my answer to that is that’s a question for the Buffalo Bills and Sean McDermott. It’s in the past. I don’t deal with that, to be honest with you.

"That's part of the way I live my life. It’s going forward, and what we’re doing here. I’m loving the guys I work with here. I got a great appreciation for the players there. I had fantastic players, still good friends of mine that I talk to all the time. But down here, I’m trying to build something down here special. That’s what it's about for me. I move on. I honestly don’t think twice about it."

 

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Umm, Heath, I “honestly” don’t believe.you.  Dolt.

 

I think he handled this as best as you would want,  did not throw Sean under the bus and basically avoided answering 

[Don Otreply]

8 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

It it true. It is in the past, and it is a question for the Bills really. It is not for a coach who has left to start publicising details about something where the Bills have clearly said they don't want to get into specifics in the public domain. If he had done that it would have been a dick move. 

I respectfully disagree with you, in which he was in effect fired for his part in the now infamous “13 seconds”

sure it’s in the past, everything is in the past nearly instantly, it is quite obvious that the Bills blamed him for the incident, and he paid for it with his job and reputation. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Don Otreply said:

I respectfully disagree with you, in which he was in effect fired for his part in the now infamous “13 seconds”

sure it’s in the past, everything is in the past nearly instantly, it is quite obvious that the Bills blamed him for the incident, and he paid for it with his job and reputation. 

 

So what do you disagree with exactly? Do you think he should have commented on something that the Bills have clearly been unwilling to talk about specifics of in public? Surely you don't think that would have been preferable? Because unless you do think that then you agree he is right - this is a question for the Bills. 

[H2o]

This is the answer he is giving which is both true and false at the same time. He has moved past it and is on to his next venture. The truth of what happened in that situation is only known by those directly involved. In truth, the situation is over. Rehashing it constantly is counterproductive and really doesn't have relevance to the present. You learn from it and move on. 

[billsherd]

He talks about how he loves the players and still in touch with them but nothing about the coaching staff? 

[Mr. WEO]

35 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I respectfully disagree with you, in which he was in effect fired for his part in the now infamous “13 seconds”

sure it’s in the past, everything is in the past nearly instantly, it is quite obvious that the Bills blamed him for the incident, and he paid for it with his job and reputation. 

 

He was a convenient fall guy for McD's decisions. 

 

He's not going to say as much if asked.

[NoSaint]

47 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I respectfully disagree with you, in which he was in effect fired for his part in the now infamous “13 seconds”

sure it’s in the past, everything is in the past nearly instantly, it is quite obvious that the Bills blamed him for the incident, and he paid for it with his job and reputation. 

you don’t get all the way to “and now he should have to publicly address it today” with all that though. 
 

likely because that’s a jump and reasonable to say it’s not something he needs to do

[Freddie's Dead]

It's a BS answer.  Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened.  Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So what do you disagree with exactly? Do you think he should have commented on something that the Bills have clearly been unwilling to talk about specifics of in public? Surely you don't think that would have been preferable? Because unless you do think that then you agree he is right - this is a question for the Bills. 

I disagree that he was being honest in his response to the question about his role or his feelings, I am not saying he should have said something else, 

[Bangarang]

7 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

It's a BS answer.  Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened.  Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up.

What kind of accountability are you looking for exactly? 

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

The entire sequence of the 13 seconds would not have occurred if the kickoff was short of the end zone.  Anyone watching the game with even a novice's knowledge of football strategy knew the smart play was to kick the ball inside the 20 yard line and short of the end zone.  A bouncing ball to the 10 yard line would have been perfect. This initial mistake is what allowed the other circumstances a chance to exist.

 

Even though Farwell was the coordinator, the players should have known what needed to be done.  There were enough veterans on the field that someone should have understood the game situation and have been talking to Bass.

 

Just like teams have a two minute offence and prevent defense plans for the end of games, you would expect a professional football team to have end of game special teams strategies.  The fact that they either didn't or didn't execute them reflects poorly on Farwell.

[Bob in STL]

36 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

 

He was a convenient fall guy for McD's decisions. 

 

He's not going to say as much if asked.

It’s not that cut and dry.  McD may have called the short kick.   The coverage team played it that way so someone called it, you can see it on tape.  The call did not get to Bass, that is the problem.  That may be on the ST Coach. No one is saying the exact roles each player and each coach have once the HC makes the call.  

[GunnerBill]

15 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I disagree that he was being honest in his response to the question about his role or his feelings, I am not saying he should have said something else, 

 

His response to the question was:

 

1. It is in the past - you have accepted that is factually accurate.

 

2. That it is a matter for the Bills - surely you accept that is true?

 

3. He doesn't think about it. I mean I don't know whether that is true or not, pure guesswork either way.

 

15 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

What kind of accountability are you looking for exactly? 

 

I have asked this question multiple times. They have no answer.

[Don Otreply]

1 hour ago, ScottLaw said:

Even with that ***** up, they ***** up the three plays after in ridiculous fashion…. Even with two TOs to figure out a proper defense.

 

IMO the special teams coach is down the line of people to blame… way behind both McDermott and Frazier.

The topic is about ST coach who evidently started the ball rolling in the wrong direction, stay on topic Scott,

47 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

you don’t get all the way to “and now he should have to publicly address it today” with all that though. 
 

likely because that’s a jump and reasonable to say it’s not something he needs to do

Not saying that he should, just saying he was giving a canned answer to the question asked, and that in doing so was not being honest, no more no less, 

[Freddie's Dead]

25 minutes ago, Bangarang said:

What kind of accountability are you looking for exactly? 

 

Any.

[Don Otreply]

49 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

you don’t get all the way to “and now he should have to publicly address it today” with all that though. 
 

likely because that’s a jump and reasonable to say it’s not something he needs to do

Not saying that he needs to do anything, I was saying that he wasn’t being honest with his canned answer to the question asked

[Southern_Bills]

33 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

I disagree that he was being honest in his response to the question about his role or his feelings, I am not saying he should have said something else, 

 

He was being as honest as possible without breaking his word to his previous employer. 

 

Everything isn't for public knowledge. 

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

Not saying that he needs to do anything, I was saying that he wasn’t being honest with his canned answer to the question asked

 

He wasn't spilling the beans. But that doesn't equate to not being honest. 

[Don Otreply]

14 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

His response to the question was:

 

1. It is in the past - you have accepted that is factually accurate.

 

2. That it is a matter for the Bills - surely you accept that is true?

 

3. He doesn't think about it. I mean I don't know whether that is true or not, pure guesswork either way.

 

 

I have asked this question multiple times. They have no answer.

Not so, you may have misinterpreted my answer, could very well be a case of two countries separated by a common language…, 

[benderbender]

We can expect the same "answer" and "accountability" that the government has had for the past two years: "It's over. Why dwell on the past? Moving forward."

[hondo in seattle]

He's got a new home, a new job, a new group of peers and players.   Immersed in his new life, I believe that he doesn't think about 13 seconds very much.

 

And I give him credit.  He doesn't sound bitter about Buffalo and doesn't throw anyone under the bus.  

 

All-in-all it was a positive, classy answer.  

[4merper4mer]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

This is the answer he is giving which is both true and false at the same time. He has moved past it and is on to his next venture. The truth of what happened in that situation is only known by those directly involved. In truth, the situation is over. Rehashing it constantly is counterproductive and really doesn't have relevance to the present. You learn from it and move on. 

All of the above is perfectly  reasonable.  That said, I’ve found that when someone says “honest” or “honestly” 37 times in nine seconds that they aren’t always being……..you know.

[GunnerBill]

Think the people saying he isn't being honest actually mean he isn't being frank or candid. 

[Don Otreply]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

He wasn't spilling the beans. But that doesn't equate to not being honest. 

It is an art form perfected by politicians and coaches, canned answers, using a bunch of words, at the same time never actually saying anything/ answering the question, this was a case of such a thing. Some call it talking around a topic, while all the time not actually addressing said topic. 

[GunnerBill]

Just now, Don Otreply said:

It is an art form perfected by politicians and coaches, canned answers, using a bunch of words, at the same time never actually saying anything/ answering the question, this was a case of such a thing. Some call it talking around a topic, while all the time not actually addressing said topic. 

 

Indeed. But it doesn't mean he wasn't honest. It means he wasn't candid. 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

It's a BS answer.  Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened.  Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up.

Will probably be a “Real Sports” or 30 for 30 type documentary on the “greatest NFL game ever played” at some point in the future after a lot of the parties have retired, so they can speak more freely?

[Freddie's Dead]

6 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said:

Will probably be a “Real Sports” or 30 for 30 type documentary on the “greatest NFL game ever played” at some point in the future after a lot of the parties have retired, so they can speak more freely?

 

It took like 15 years before Wade admitted that Ralph demanded that Scrub Johnson start the Music City Forward Pass game.  Maybe we'll get answers in 2036.

Edited June 10, 2022 by Freddie's Dead

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, Freddie's Dead said:

It's a BS answer.  Months later and we still have no real accountability or an explanation of what really happened.  Hopefully someday, someone will come clean and let us know exactly who ***** up.

 

Why do we need to know? So long as there has been accountability in the building and the mistakes have been learned from what does hanging people out to dry in public achieve? McDermott said right after the game - contrary to what most people seem to think - that it starts with him. That is all we need to know. 

[Bangarang]

38 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said:

 

Any.

A new ST coordinator doesn’t count? Or are you looking for a public lynching? 
 

McD has been here for 5 years, when have you ever known him to deal with things publicly? You really think he hasn’t dissected what went wrong and hasn’t addressed it?

[muppy]

pfft yeah well he's basically "Right" in as much as he has a different team to be concerned with in the now.

 

AS IF he is going to want to open THAT can of worms in a what would become click bait article if he were to say anything other that what he did.

[Brand J]

Where did I hear that McD changed his mind about the kickoff (from through the EZ to short of it) and that the amended call never made it to Bass? Farwell was supposedly on the short kick to the EZ train from the moment after the offense scored.

[Bangarang]

1 minute ago, muppy said:

pfft yeah well he's basically "Right" in as much as he has a different team to be concerned with in the now.

 

AS IF he is going to want to open THAT can of worms in a what would become click bait article if he were to say anything other that what he did.

Its a no win situation for him. Either he admits he messed up or he throws his old team under the bus. 
 

He gave the typical canned NFL response.