LeGOATski Posted July 17, 2022 Share Posted July 17, 2022 5 hours ago, Buffalo Super Fan said: Trust BSF I have lived in Buffalo almost 55 years come December when I turn 55 years old. I have seen a lot over the years. The new Buffalo Bills stadium is a done deal because the public money is already committed when the New York State budget passed. A CBA is just a whole lot of nothing because both the city of Buffalo and Erie County is a whole lot of nothing today this was a New York State money deal all the way. Buffalo and Erie County aren’t players anymore they haven’t been in a long long time they may think there players but there not because neither has enough money to build a Buffalo Bills a lemonade stand never mind something as big as a new NFL stadium today because both city of Buffalo are Erie County are broke. The way New York State wants them both broke and depended on the state for all the answers it is what it is we all just watch the dog and pony show but this stadium deal is a done deal in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo Welcome to July, 2022. The deal has been done for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Super Bowl expected season, yet the Bills have to package 3 December games against division rivals to sell them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 1 minute ago, PromoTheRobot said: Super Bowl expected season, yet the Bills have to package 3 December games against division rivals to sell them. Well, I mean, yeah. It's december. In Buffalo. MAYBE at night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Super Bowl expected season, yet the Bills have to package 3 December games against division rivals to sell them. We're a small market Mr. Robot. Nothing is new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 Plus the TBD date & time for the fish and pats games probably isn’t helping with “early” sales. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted August 5, 2022 Share Posted August 5, 2022 3 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Super Bowl expected season, yet the Bills have to package 3 December games against division rivals to sell them. 2 of those games are "TBD". Might be difficult for many people to plan ahead when they don't know when the games are going to be played. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 18 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: Well, I mean, yeah. It's december. In Buffalo. MAYBE at night. 18 hours ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: We're a small market Mr. Robot. Nothing is new. Meanwhile... https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2022/05/20/twice-many-get-packers-season-tickets-but-over-140-000-waiting/9510134002/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 25 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Meanwhile... https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2022/05/20/twice-many-get-packers-season-tickets-but-over-140-000-waiting/9510134002/ Buffalo is cosmopolitan compared to Green Bay Wisconsin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Buffalo is cosmopolitan compared to Green Bay Wisconsin And yet GB has no trouble selling tickets at night in December... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: And yet GB has no trouble selling tickets at night in December... I don't get it. Doesn't Buffalo have a waiting list for season tickets, too? Last I read, the waiting list was about 3000 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 6 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: And yet GB has no trouble selling tickets at night in December... Because there's literally nothing else to do besides maybe building an igloo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: And yet GB has no trouble selling tickets at night in December... Your link had nothing to do with selling tickets at night in December. It was about season tix, of which GB only has 38K, for an 81K stadium (the Bills I believe max out at 55K season tix and sold out last year). They didn't sell out any games last year, much less in December/January, topping-out at 78K. Edited August 6, 2022 by Doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: I don't get it. Doesn't Buffalo have a waiting list for season tickets, too? Last I read, the waiting list was about 3000 people. Who knows 3 minutes ago, Doc said: Your link had nothing to do with selling tickets at night in December. It was about season tix, of which GB only has 38K, for an 81K stadium. They didn't sell out any games last year, much less in December/January, topping-out at 78K. 38,000 "season ticket holder accounts", up to 4 tickets each Edited August 6, 2022 by Mr. WEO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: 38,000 "season ticket holder accounts" Yes, they have a maximum of 38K season tickets. They have a large waiting list for people wanting to be one of those 38K. If the Bills restricted theirs to 38K, they'd have a waiting list as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 Just now, Doc said: Yes, they have a maximum of 38K season tickets. They have a large waiting list for people wanting to be one of those 38K. If the Bills restricted theirs to 38K, they'd have a waiting list as well. accounts---up to 4 tickets each, doc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 5 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: accounts---up to 4 tickets each, doc How does that work? 38K times 4 is almost double what Lambeau can hold. And again, they still don't sell-out every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheektowaga Chad Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 It will take a few more years of being a good team for those late season games to be sold out or close to sold out Fans in the area at this point are so used to being given free or dirt cheap tickets for December games as the games get closer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Doc said: Yes, they have a maximum of 38K season tickets. They have a large waiting list for people wanting to be one of those 38K. If the Bills restricted theirs to 38K, they'd have a waiting list as well. Pretty sure Bills have 60k and still have a relatively short waiting list... I could be wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: Pretty sure Bills have 60k and still have a relatively short waiting list... I could be wrong I couldn't find the exact number for season tix (I saw that they sold out last year but couldn't find the number) available, but you could be right. Just saying that if the Bills offered just 38K, they'd have a bigger waiting list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 13 minutes ago, Doc said: How does that work? 38K times 4 is almost double what Lambeau can hold. And again, they still don't sell-out every game. Maybe they got tired of Aaron Rodgers's BS last year. As of 2 summers ago: "These Are the Most Incredible Active Sellout Streaks in Sports Andrew Lisa June 2, 2020·12 min read In 1959, Dwight Eisenhower was president, no one had heard of the Beatles yet, and the Green Bay Packers were playing to sold-out crowds at a stadium that had yet to be renamed Lambeau Field. Fast forward nearly 60 years, and the two surviving Beatles are in their late 70s, Ike is a footnote in history, and the Packers are still playing to sold-out crowds at Lambeau. The most dramatic sellout streaks can span generations and even lifetimes, and they galvanize teams and unify fans. Some attendance records cluster around sports dynasties, while others seem to last forever no matter how the team performs. Either way, one truth is undeniable: When it comes to the business of sports, capacity crowds always are welcome. The Packers also stand out, however, for their astonishing 60-year sellout streak, which has endured from 1959 to the present. Yet, in another oddity, the Packers don’t hold the longest sellout streak in one city. As of Nov. 4, 2018, they’d played 359 straight games in Green Bay, Wisconsin — fewer than the Denver Broncos’ 400 in a row in the Colorado capital — because they played 107 “home” games at Milwaukee County Stadium between 1960 and 1994, according to the Denver Post. The loyal fans in Milwaukee wanted to see the Packers closer to home." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 8 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Maybe they got tired of Aaron Rodgers's BS last year. As of 2 summers ago: "These Are the Most Incredible Active Sellout Streaks in Sports Andrew Lisa June 2, 2020·12 min read In 1959, Dwight Eisenhower was president, no one had heard of the Beatles yet, and the Green Bay Packers were playing to sold-out crowds at a stadium that had yet to be renamed Lambeau Field. Fast forward nearly 60 years, and the two surviving Beatles are in their late 70s, Ike is a footnote in history, and the Packers are still playing to sold-out crowds at Lambeau. The most dramatic sellout streaks can span generations and even lifetimes, and they galvanize teams and unify fans. Some attendance records cluster around sports dynasties, while others seem to last forever no matter how the team performs. Either way, one truth is undeniable: When it comes to the business of sports, capacity crowds always are welcome. The Packers also stand out, however, for their astonishing 60-year sellout streak, which has endured from 1959 to the present. Yet, in another oddity, the Packers don’t hold the longest sellout streak in one city. As of Nov. 4, 2018, they’d played 359 straight games in Green Bay, Wisconsin — fewer than the Denver Broncos’ 400 in a row in the Colorado capital — because they played 107 “home” games at Milwaukee County Stadium between 1960 and 1994, according to the Denver Post. The loyal fans in Milwaukee wanted to see the Packers closer to home." Yeah, OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrags Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 That’s exactly why they have cut almost 10k tickets from their new stadium plans. This way they always keep the stadium full and in demand. People will overpay for tickets once the new stadium is built. They aren’t going to have a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted August 6, 2022 Share Posted August 6, 2022 On 7/16/2022 at 11:53 PM, Buffalo Super Fan said: Trust BSF I have lived in Buffalo almost 55 years come December when I turn 55 years old. I have seen a lot over the years. The new Buffalo Bills stadium is a done deal because the public money is already committed when the New York State budget passed. A CBA is just a whole lot of nothing because both the city of Buffalo and Erie County is a whole lot of nothing today this was a New York State money deal all the way. Buffalo and Erie County aren’t players anymore they haven’t been in a long long time they may think there players but there not because neither has enough money to build a Buffalo Bills a lemonade stand never mind something as big as a new NFL stadium today because both city of Buffalo are Erie County are broke. The way New York State wants them both broke and depended on the state for all the answers it is what it is we all just watch the dog and pony show but this stadium deal is a done deal in my opinion. Go Bills! Let’s Go Buffalo A lot more truth in this than many want to admit. That’s not surprising though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 https://www.audacy.com/wben/local-sports/bills/bills-push-back-new-stadium-talks-deadline-by-45-days?utm_source=WBEN-AM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WBEN-AM NEWSLETTER&utm_content=Three Things 082722&mi_u=526992&mi_ecmp=Three Things 082722 Bills push back new stadium talks deadline by 45 days BUFFALO, N.Y. (WBEN/AP) — Though talks are progressing, the deadline to finalize plans to build the Buffalo Bills' new $1.4 billion stadium have been pushed back by 45 days, negotiators announced on Friday. Without revealing the reason for the delay, the decision to move the deadline from Sept. 1 was released in a joint statement by the stakeholders in negotiations made up by the Bills, New York state and county representatives. (more in the link to the article) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 17 minutes ago, Draconator said: https://www.audacy.com/wben/local-sports/bills/bills-push-back-new-stadium-talks-deadline-by-45-days?utm_source=WBEN-AM&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=WBEN-AM NEWSLETTER&utm_content=Three Things 082722&mi_u=526992&mi_ecmp=Three Things 082722 Bills push back new stadium talks deadline by 45 days BUFFALO, N.Y. (WBEN/AP) — Though talks are progressing, the deadline to finalize plans to build the Buffalo Bills' new $1.4 billion stadium have been pushed back by 45 days, negotiators announced on Friday. Without revealing the reason for the delay, the decision to move the deadline from Sept. 1 was released in a joint statement by the stakeholders in negotiations made up by the Bills, New York state and county representatives. (more in the link to the article) This happens regularly in negotiations and isn't a big deal. During our last set of negotiations at work we extended the prior contract four times before we finalized a contract. It's something that is done if both sides feel they are close to an agreement, making genuine progress, and just need a little more time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 14 minutes ago, haroldwaide said: This happens regularly in negotiations and isn't a big deal. During our last set of negotiations at work we extended the prior contract four times before we finalized a contract. It's something that is done if both sides feel they are close to an agreement, making genuine progress, and just need a little more time. Okay, that's fine, but..... we want renderings! Just give us a colorful picture to look at! Better yet, give us a black and white picture and a box of crayons so we can color it in on our own! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haroldwaide Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 1 hour ago, LeGOATski said: Okay, that's fine, but..... we want renderings! Just give us a colorful picture to look at! Better yet, give us a black and white picture and a box of crayons so we can color it in on our own! I don't think this has anything to do with the renderings. We are "close" to seeing those. If I had to guess, I'd say they need more time to finalize the community benefits agreement that is part of the new lease. Although it could be still needing settlement on other day, minor issues in the new lease itself. We probably won't ever know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 4 minutes ago, haroldwaide said: I don't think this has anything to do with the renderings. We are "close" to seeing those. If I had to guess, I'd say they need more time to finalize the community benefits agreement that is part of the new lease. Although it could be still needing settlement on other day, minor issues in the new lease itself. We probably won't ever know. I'm sure you're right, but the fella was just telling a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastaJoe Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 2 hours ago, LeGOATski said: Okay, that's fine, but..... we want renderings! Just give us a colorful picture to look at! Better yet, give us a black and white picture and a box of crayons so we can color it in on our own! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 Just a question that my searches have not found an answer. If Kathy Hochul is defeated in the November, could the new governor cancel our stadium deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chandler's Hands Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 12 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Just a question that my searches have not found an answer. If Kathy Hochul is defeated in the November, could the new governor cancel our stadium deal? It's more likely that a meteor will strike Hochul than she will lose the election. 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern bills Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 45 minutes ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: It's more likely that a meteor will strike Hochul than she will lose the election. Not living in Buffalo, is this something that has come up? It would be shocking to hear either side talking much about it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Bob Chandler's Hands said: It's more likely that a meteor will strike Hochul than she will lose the election. I appreciate the input, but even NASA is preparing for a meteor strick. My question is if she does lose the election could the stadium deal be in jeopardy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, longtimebillsfan said: Just a question that my searches have not found an answer. If Kathy Hochul is defeated in the November, could the new governor cancel our stadium deal? Not to turn this into a PPP thread, but Hochul's opponent Lee Zelden is Pro-Trump. There are bigger fish to fry than our stadium deal. But he is from Long Island. He may cancel it to please his local supporters. But the bottom line is, most of the state may go Lee Zelden's way, but New York City and the surrounding area (save for a couple of districts) will be overwhelmingly Hochul, which will carry the election in her favor. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 3 minutes ago, Draconator said: Not to turn this into a PPP thread, but Hochul's opponent Lee Zelden is Pro-Trump. There are bigger fish to fry than our stadium deal. But he is from Long Island. He may cancel it to please his local supporters. But the bottom line is, most of the state may go Lee Zelden's way, but New York City and the surrounding area (save for a couple of districts) will be overwhelmingly Hochul, which will carry the election in her favor. Thank you for that explanation. 25 minutes ago, Southern bills said: Not living in Buffalo, is this something that has come up? It would be shocking to hear either side talking much about it right now. I am from western NY, but I live in Las Vegas and have been out of the area for many years. That us why I posed this question. 27 minutes ago, Southern bills said: Not living in Buffalo, is this something that has come up? It would be shocking to hear either side talking much about it right now. I am from western NY, but I live in Las Vegas and have been out of the area for many years. That is why I posed this question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted October 12, 2022 Share Posted October 12, 2022 7 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: Thank you for that explanation. I am from western NY, but I live in Las Vegas and have been out of the area for many years. That us why I posed this question. She has a comfortable lead but nothing is certain. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/2022/new-york/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 42 minutes ago, Draconator said: Not to turn this into a PPP thread, but Hochul's opponent Lee Zelden is Pro-Trump. There are bigger fish to fry than our stadium deal. But he is from Long Island. He may cancel it to please his local supporters. But the bottom line is, most of the state may go Lee Zelden's way, but New York City and the surrounding area (save for a couple of districts) will be overwhelmingly Hochul, which will carry the election in her favor. And Rochester. And Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsfaninSB said: She has a comfortable lead but nothing is certain. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/2022/new-york/ Appreciate the response and the link. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconator Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 54 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: And Rochester. And Buffalo. Good point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted October 13, 2022 Share Posted October 13, 2022 3 hours ago, BillsfaninSB said: She has a comfortable lead but nothing is certain. https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/polls/governor/2022/new-york/ Fivethirtyeight doesnt have the best track record. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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