Bills FA rumors thread

[Alphadawg7]

4 minutes ago, Rico said:

Could be good for laughs when he gets cut.

Lol, I agree he probably gets cut.  That’s a long time to be away, but this is a low risk signing, so might as well take a peek, and if can’t do it anymore then he’s an easy cut 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[PetermansRedemption]

4 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

What does this even mean? “Cooper’s prove us supposedly a 3rd, but could settle for a 4th”?

[Alphadawg7]

8 minutes ago, PetermansRedemption said:

What does this even mean? “Cooper’s prove us supposedly a 3rd, but could settle for a 4th”?

haha he clearly misspelled “price is” in his tweet

 

13 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

I’ve been critical of Coopers contract, he wasn’t worth what the Cowboys paid him.  Talented, but too inconsistent for that money he got.  
 

So what would be his cap hit if we traded for him?  I mean I am cool with a 4th, but more concerned about what he would cost against the cap.  If he’s still $20M a season then GTFOH with that trade, let him go somewhere else.  
 

If his cap price is reasonable and all it took was a 4th, then I would have some interest.  
 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[TheyCallMeAndy]

I’d trade a 4th for Cooper for sure.

[filthymcnasty08]

20 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

Honestly, he’s worth a look.  What’s the harm of bringing him to camp?  Not like there are a ton of exciting options out there.  Bring him and another guy in and see how they compete.  He’s an easy cut if he has little to offer, which is prob what happens, just no harm in taking a peek.
 

But, even if Bills were willing too, I think Kap is going to hold out until a team calls that could offer an opportunity to win a starting job.  Which I think is a mistake, he should just take what he can get to at least get that foot back into the NFL door and see what happens from there.  

 

I would support kicking the tires here, but ultimately I don’t think it happens.  
 

 

F that guy...not the attention we want for this team.

[Alphadawg7]

 

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[BillsMafi$]

 

[Alphadawg7]

Just now, BillsMafi$ said:

 

This is where I say “I told you so”.  

[Brand J]

There’s a whole lotta smoke coming out of the chimney these days. For a team up against the cap, could they seriously have interest in Amari Cooper? Didn’t the Cowpokes say they were cutting him? How verifiable are all these accounts?

[NewEra]

3 minutes ago, BillsMafi$ said:

 

[DCOrange]

The Amari Cooper and “imminent” McCaffrey rumors are BS accounts. 
 

The Kirk news, if legit, should probably push him out of our price range. That just isn’t responsible IMO.

 

CMC wouldn’t totally shock me but I’d be pretty disappointed.

22 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

haha he clearly misspelled “price is” in his tweet

 

I’ve been critical of Coopers contract, he wasn’t worth what the Cowboys paid him.  Talented, but too inconsistent for that money he got.  
 

So what would be his cap hit if we traded for him?  I mean I am cool with a 4th, but more concerned about what he would cost against the cap.  If he’s still $20M a season then GTFOH with that trade, let him go somewhere else.  
 

If his cap price is reasonable and all it took was a 4th, then I would have some interest.  
 

Cap hit would be the full $20 mil unless we restructure/Dallas agrees to pay some amount of it. 

[Beast]

Can you just post any twitter account post you want in this thread?

Edited March 12, 2022 by Beast

[SCBills]

If I had to guess, Beane is going to have a number for some top FA’s, but it will require them taking a bit less to play for us.  
 

Example:  If we want Kirk, 3 years/$45 mil.  But there may be teams that offer 3 years/$50mil.  
 

We’ll be in a lot of rumors, because how good we are and league-wide reputation makes us desirable, but I’m preparing myself for Chandler Jones, Christian Kirk etc going elsewhere.  
 

Hope I’m wrong.. but I do think we may make an expected splash move or two.. unlike last year, there is way too much smoke in regards to us and bigger name FA’s/trades. 

[Pete]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

 

My son said last night that the Bills offered Beasley and a 3rd for CMc but the Panthers wanted a 1st.  I didn't see that reported anywhere else so I didn't mention it here.

 

 

I thought given all the factors.  But as it usually does, it will probably will come down to money.

https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/cole-beasley-christian-mccaffrey-trade/    

 

Cole, a 3rd, and a 5th.  Hell yeah I say.  Motor and Christian, F Yeah!  McCafferty would solve our returner issues too.  He can motion outside, and really present matchup problems. 

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, Pete said:

https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/cole-beasley-christian-mccaffrey-trade/    

 

Cole, a 3rd, and a 5th.  Hell yeah I say.  Motor and Christian, F Yeah!  McCafferty would solve our returner issues too.  He can motion outside, and really present matchup problems. 

As much as I’m weary of McCaffrey’s injury history, I’d do this.  
 

If we aren’t willing to pull a LA Rams and mortgage the future to win (I’m not saying I disagree with being more conservative) you’ve got to take some risks.  
 

Buffalo has shown, knock on wood, that we can keep players healthy.   McCaffrey also won’t be a workhorse here.  Singletary is likely still the lead back and CMC comes in spell him, two back sets, and play in the slot.  
 

He’ll get his touches, but they will be more in space and less grinding through big bodies. 
 

Edited March 12, 2022 by SCBills

[BillsMafi$]

 

[Pete]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

As much as I’m weary of McCaffrey’s injury history, I’d do this.  
 

If we aren’t willing to pull a LA Rams and mortgage the future to win (I’m not saying I disagree with being more conservative) you’ve got to take some risks.  
 

Buffalo has shown, knock on wood, that we can keep players healthy.   McCaffrey also won’t be a workhorse here.  Singletary is likely still the lead back and CMC comes in spell him, two back sets, and play in the slot.  
 

He’ll get his touches, but they will be more in space and less grinding through big bodies. 
 

Bills should have won SB last year.  This is our year to win.  Players want to play for Biuffalo.   I make big moves to win this year.

 

Make that trade for McCafrey.  Trading Beasley offsets a good chunk of salary

 

Re-sign Harry. Add a NT

 

Sign Chandler Jones.  Or Ogbah.  We need a DE who can get to Mahomes and Burrow!

 

Draft Jameson Williams.  Possible best player in draft.  Jameson and Christian- speed and playmaking ability in spades!

 

draft Azaria.  The best P prospect in years.  No more shanks.  We win field position battle

 

2, 4, 6, 6, 7, 7  and FA $ -CBs, OL, WR, TE

[Turbo44]

19 minutes ago, Pete said:

Bills should have won SB last year.  This is our year to win.  Players want to play for Biuffalo.   I make big moves to win this year.

 

Make that trade for McCafrey.  Trading Beasley offsets a good chunk of salary

 

Re-sign Harry. Add a NT

 

Sign Chandler Jones.  Or Ogbah.  We need a DE who can get to Mahomes and Burrow!

 

Draft Jameson Williams.  Possible best player in draft.  Jameson and Christian- speed and playmaking ability in spades!

 

draft Azaria.  The best P prospect in years.  No more shanks.  We win field position battle

 

2, 4, 6, 6, 7, 7  and FA $ -CBs, OL, WR, TE

And I’d add sign Gronk. McCafree $ is 90% offset by Beasley. Chandler, Harry and Gronk would cost about $28m real money but there are easy ways to make the number less cap wise. Unfortunately I think Jameson is prob gone by 25 but there probably will be other stud wrs available like the penn state guy snd Arkansas guy

[Pete]

1 minute ago, Turbo44 said:

And I’d add sign Gronk. McCafree $ is 90% offset by Beasley. Chandler, Harry and Gronk would cost about $28m real money but there are easy ways to make the number less cap wise. Unfortunately I think Jameson is prob gone by 25 but there probably will be other stud wrs available like the penn state guy snd Arkansas guy

To me the above and Jameson would be almost perfect.  Adding Gronk, we might not punt all year lol

If the above all plays out, and Jameson is off board, I go CB 1st, and get a stud WR in 2nd.  A trade back from 25 is great too.  They say the depth in this draft is rounds 2-4- so I am all for trading back and loading up on top 125 picks

[Turbo44]

1 hour ago, Pete said:

To me the above and Jameson would be almost perfect.  Adding Gronk, we might not punt all year lol

If the above all plays out, and Jameson is off board, I go CB 1st, and get a stud WR in 2nd.  A trade back from 25 is great too.  They say the depth in this draft is rounds 2-4- so I am all for trading back and loading up on top 125 picks

Agree to all of this. If Jameson is there at 25 it should be an easy choice. For a torn ACL it was the best one to have - clean tear with no other ligaments compromised. Unfortunately everyone knows this and he’s probably gone in the teens. I wouldn’t trade up either for him as you’d have to give up your 2nd. Too much in this deep draft

[Big Blitz]

When Seattle fails to get Watson because he ends up in Miami, you do everything you can to get DK....I'll consider Lockett a consolation get.  

 

Sign Chandler Jones.

 

Get Gronk.

 

Keep Harry.  

 

Trade for Saquan - Edmonds straight up

 

Sign Wagner (4x36 million)

 

Draft the best CB and IOLs.

 

 

Done.  

 

 

[No_Matter_What]

Just to clarify, when do teams have to be under the cap? When the FA starts or later?

 

[ndirish1978]

Hearing Chandler Jones unlikely to sign here per Albright. In that case I have no idea what Beane was thinking not making a move for Mack. We are desperate for a legit pass rush. 

[Big Blitz]

6 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Hearing Chandler Jones unlikely to sign here per Albright. In that case I have no idea what Beane was thinking not making a move for Mack. We are desperate for a legit pass rush. 

 

 

Are we?  

 

I think I'd be much more desperate for elite weapons 

 

 

The WR group to me currently - because you still have no guarantees with Davis - sits a lot like the CB room last year.  It is a Diggs injury from the season being over like we were a White injury away from being done on D because the CB depth was terrible.  All due respect to Levi.  

 

You can't, absolutely cannot come into this season with just Diggs and Davis.  That's a fail.  And no you can't bank on the draft. 

 

QBs are too freaking mobile and too good to be sweating who can get sacks.  We need to get pressure and cover and I think we do that just fine.  We can't stop the run.  

 

 

Overpay for WEAPONS.  Get me all the weapons you can.  

Edited March 12, 2022 by Big Blitz

[Big Blitz]

And seriously, what does signing Jones say about our freaking draft strategy the last oh 3 years?

 

Oliver

Groot

Basham (the worst freaking pick - looks at Humphrey)

Signing Star, Addison, Obada etc

[SCBills]

7 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

And seriously, what does signing Jones say about our freaking draft strategy the last oh 3 years?

 

Oliver

Groot

Basham (the worst freaking pick - looks at Humphrey)

Signing Star, Addison, Obada etc

I mean, it honestly doesn’t say a ton… yet. 
 

EDGE typically takes a while to develop, unless you’re drafting in the top 5.  
 

Guys like TJ Watt developing so quickly are rare, and he had 7 sacks his first year.  Good, but not dominant as a rookie. 
 

Point definitely valid re: Star, Addison etc. 

 

Edited March 12, 2022 by SCBills

[Turbo44]

19 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Hearing Chandler Jones unlikely to sign here per Albright. In that case I have no idea what Beane was thinking not making a move for Mack. We are desperate for a legit pass rush. 

There are at least 5 other elite to close to elite DEs available - clowney, etc.

 

id love chandler J BUT he is 32 and if you take away his first game last year (5 sacks), he had 1.5 sacks less than Addison. Speaking of Addison, I’d love to get him or Hughes back on a reasonable deal. Addison is severely underrated around here. He also said something a couple of weeks ago indicating he’d be back. Somththing like Buffalo isn’t letting me leave 

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, Pete said:

https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/cole-beasley-christian-mccaffrey-trade/    

 

Cole, a 3rd, and a 5th.  Hell yeah I say.  Motor and Christian, F Yeah!  McCafferty would solve our returner issues too.  He can motion outside, and really present matchup problems. 

What do you mean McCaffrey would solve ou return issues?  You would want him to be our returner??? Oh man

[MrEpsYtown]

On the CMC thing, if Cooper costs what he did, and Mack costs what he did, what does CMC cost? I feel like expensive vets, aside from QBs, may not cost much in terms of trades. Whether you like CMC or not, if he can be had at a discount, why not? 

[NewEra]

7 minutes ago, Turbo44 said:

There are at least 5 other elite to close to elite DEs available - clowney, etc.

 

id love chandler J BUT he is 32 and if you take away his first game last year (5 sacks), he had 1.5 sacks less than Addison. Speaking of Addison, I’d love to get him or Hughes back on a reasonable deal. Addison is severely underrated around here. He also said something a couple of weeks ago indicating he’d be back. Somththing like Buffalo isn’t letting me leave 

At least 5 elite or close to elite DEs available??  Really?  Name 5

 

here’s  a list

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/defensive-end/

Edited March 12, 2022 by NewEra

[Big Blitz]

Look don't get me wrong I'm fine with getting Jones - just not at the expense of what I'm beginning to think might be our biggest need - WR 

 

CB is need 1B I'm just confident we'll get a good one in RD 1 and you can bring in a few vets to hold it down for Tre

[JaCrispy]

3 hours ago, Pete said:

https://heavy.com/sports/buffalo-bills/cole-beasley-christian-mccaffrey-trade/    

 

Cole, a 3rd, and a 5th.  Hell yeah I say.  Motor and Christian, F Yeah!  McCafferty would solve our returner issues too.  He can motion outside, and really present matchup problems. 

I don’t even like the thought of offering a 3rd, considering the injury history and the contract...

 

I’d offer a 4th this year, and a conditional 5th rounder next year...
 

The Panthers should consider the Bills doing them a favor by taking that ‘albatross’ off their necks...😉

Edited March 12, 2022 by JaCrispy

[BillsFanForever19]

43 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

When Seattle fails to get Watson because he ends up in Miami, you do everything you can to get DK....I'll consider Lockett a consolation get.  

 

Sign Chandler Jones.

 

Get Gronk.

 

Keep Harry.  

 

Trade for Saquan - Edmonds straight up

 

Sign Wagner (4x36 million)

 

Draft the best CB and IOLs.

 

 

Done.  

 

 

 

Apparently, I missed the memo that being 2 million under the cap actually means we're 50 million under the cap. We can make some moves to free up some money.  But not THAT much.

 

And there's a lot of you who are going to be really disappointed because Edmunds will be here this year and will most likely be extended to free up space. He will NOT be traded. Beane even acknowledged his detectors and made a point to say he doesn't agree with you.

[MrEpsYtown]

4 minutes ago, NewEra said:

At least 5 elite or close to elite DEs available??  Really?  Name 5

 

here’s  a list

https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/free-agents/defensive-end/

My list:

Eddie Yarborough

Bryan Cox Jr

Lerentee McCray

Efe Obada

and message board legend Takkarist McKinley

 

[YoloinOhio]

39 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Hearing Chandler Jones unlikely to sign here per Albright. In that case I have no idea what Beane was thinking not making a move for Mack. We are desperate for a legit pass rush. 

Again, the Bills could not absorb Mack’s contract. He has a 30 mill cap hit this year. He already restructured it last year and wasn’t going to again. That is part of the deal. 

[billybob71]

All we gotta do to get Gronk is get him that USAA insurance policy, man i hate that commercial

[MrEpsYtown]

3 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Apparently, I missed the memo that being 2 million under the cap actually means we're 50 million under the cap. We can make some moves to free up some money.  But not THAT much.

 

And there's a lot of you who are going to be really disappointed because Edmunds will be here this year and will most likely be extended to free up space. He will NOT be traded. Beane even acknowledged his detectors and made a point to say he doesn't agree with you.

2 days ago the Saints were 35 million over the cap and now they are 5. And they didn’t cut anybody and re-sign Carl Granderson. I’m not saying Beane will go crazy with restructures etc, but they can do anything if they want. 

[Big Blitz]

2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

 

Apparently, I missed the memo that being 2 million under the cap actually means we're 50 million under the cap. We can make some moves to free up some money.  But not THAT much.

 

And there's a lot of you who are going to be really disappointed because Edmunds will be here this year and will most likely be extended to free up space. He will NOT be traded. Beane even acknowledged his detectors and made a point to say he doesn't agree with you.

 

 

If the folks breaking down our cap space are correct that we could free up 30 plus million this year before an Edmonds trade then that can all be done.  

 

 

Here is the question we're going to very soon have to come to grips with.  

 

Do we play for '23 and beyond or do some serious splash moves to go all in now.  Maybe both can still be true but I don't know.  

 

We will still be a SB contender this year but our offseason will look like last years.  

 

And if we draft Williams at 25 I'd consider it a sign we're doing just that.  Looking long term.  

[Pete]

46 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

Hearing Chandler Jones unlikely to sign here per Albright. In that case I have no idea what Beane was thinking not making a move for Mack. We are desperate for a legit pass rush. 

Im guessing Bills sign Foley Fatukasi if we don't sign Chandler.  That seems more like Beanes under the radar signing.  Supposedly Foley's star is on the rise big time

[MrEpsYtown]

2 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

If the folks breaking down our cap space are correct that we could free up 30 plus million this year before an Edmonds trade then that can all be done.  

 

 

Here is the question we're going to very soon have to come to grips with.  

 

Do we play for '23 and beyond or do some serious splash moves to go all in now.  Maybe both can still be true but I don't know.  

 

We will still be a SB contender this year but our offseason will look like last years.  

 

And if we draft Williams at 25 I'd consider it a sign we're doing just that.  Looking long term.  

You have to go all in in my opinion. Time to strike is now. If we only get 1 Super Bowl, I don’t care. Let’s get one.