DrDawkinstein Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 As much as I hate to contribute to the over-reactionary, dramatic posts made after a loss, I feel this at least needs to be discussed. First, I HATE the idea of changing coaches again. Good organizations do not do this. They simply make the adjustments where needed, and keep the ship sailing. So I do not suggest this lightly. That said, while McD has been EXACTLY what the Bills needed as a culture-changing rebuilder, I am not sure he is the type of cut-throat destroyer needed to take our talent to the next level, keep the team playing tough, and lead us to the promise land for a Championship. Reid, Arians, Belichick, Carroll... None of these guys are exactly "kumbaya culture" guys. I dont know what else it will take to get this group pissed off and fired up to win. We are soft and finesse-y on both sides of the ball... And this isnt even getting into how woefully unprepared we have been for most games this season, and how poor our players are at even the basics (tackling, catching, protecting the ball, etc). Dude needs to show us something, fast. 2 5 3 2 6 2 1 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattlinBill Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Ummm...he has made the playoffs 3 out of 4 years after two decades of hopelessness. How about we pump the brakes a bit. 24 2 1 5 5 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 We’d have to miss the playoffs this season and next season imo. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 The Colts are not 41-15 better than the Bills, even with the injuries. Colts secondary, like Jacksonville, was also missing key starters but it didn’t matter. Scheme is to blame. 1 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No_Matter_What Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) We have 5th best regular season record in the whole league over the last 3 seasons and were in AFCCG last year. Why are even reasonable posters going crazy after couple of bad losses? He is as safe as anybody, as well as Beane. Edited November 21, 2021 by No_Matter_What 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Nothing will happen. Keep getting bundled out of playoffs early and the status quo remains. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billsflyer12 Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) Is it fair to ask if McD is a Super Bowl level head coach? Edited November 21, 2021 by Billsflyer12 6 2 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: As much as I hate to contribute to the over-reactionary, dramatic posts made after a loss, I feel this at least needs to be discussed. First, I HATE the idea of changing coaches again. Good organizations do not do this. They simply make the adjustments where needed, and keep the ship sailing. So I do not suggest this lightly. That said, while McD has been EXACTLY what the Bills needed as a culture-changing rebuilder, I am not sure he is the type of cut-throat destroyer needed to take our talent to the next level, keep the team playing tough, and lead us to the promise land for a Championship. Reid, Arians, Belichick, Carroll... None of these guys are exactly "kumbaya culture" guys. I dont know what else it will take to get this group pissed off and fired up to win. We are soft and finesse-y on both sides of the ball... And this isnt even getting into how woefully unprepared we have been for most games this season, and how poor our players are at even the basics (tackling, catching, protecting the ball, etc). Dude needs to show us something, fast. Ok how did you put Arians in the same breath as those other coaches. Also Carroll is the biggest damn cheerleader on the team! You don’t get much more player friendly than him. So that disproves your theory they can’t win the big ones. but Arians only got a championship because Brady took over last year and led the team like it was NE South and with that talent they never loss again. If Arians stayed calling plays they still be waiting for a championship. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Bills Fan Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) If he doesn’t force Daboll to create a running game or fire him then he should be on hot seat Edited November 21, 2021 by Kingston Bills Fan 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Billsflyer12 said: Is it fair to ask if McD a Super Bowl level head coach? I think it is early to jump to that. He was one game away last year. He is a really good football coach. The team isn't playing great right now and some of that is on him to get fixed but I trust he will. I don't think we can win the Superbowl until we have better personnel up front. I was hopeful coming into the year the DL would be upgraded (it probably has been but not by a lot) and the oline would at least be the above average pass blocking unit it was last year (it hasn't been). They are personnel questions as much as anything else IMO. 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I mean, we made the AFCCG last year. So, not for awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 I understand the question, but it's not even close to time for this. OC needs to go, flat out. Unless he gets it turned around we have underperformed as an offense since last year's playoffs. If he finishes this year like he's doing right now he must go. If the problem persists, at that point it's a legit question. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, Billsflyer12 said: Is it fair to ask if McD is a Super Bowl level head coach? Absolutely not. You need big brave balls to win SBs, and he doesn't have it. Taking knees, punting...you know how it would end. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 14 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Reid, Arians, Belichick, Carroll... None of these guys are exactly "kumbaya culture" guys. Fixed your post for you. While not agreeing or disagreeing with you as to whether a ""kumbaya culture" is good or bad, I do think with the exception of Belichick the other three are of that mindset at least from everything I've seen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 He doesn't. Close thread 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 Certainly not this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted November 21, 2021 Share Posted November 21, 2021 (edited) He's under contract through 2025 so unless we'd like to pay yet another coach for the privilege to not coach for us, he's not going anywhere. Edited November 22, 2021 by benderbender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 He’s not remotely near any hot seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 Even if they fully collapse and miss the playoffs this year he’s not even close to climbing on the hot seat. 1 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsherd Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 About 4 years after this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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