Big Turk Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Tied with SF at +1200. Behind the favorites KC at +450 and TB at +700. Should be another fantastic year to be a Bills fan... https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-betting-big-bet-comes-in-on-tampa-bay-bucs-to-repeat-as-super-bowl-champions-141541137.html 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Tied with SF at +1200. Behind the favorites KC at +450 and TB at +700. Should be another fantastic year to be a Bills fan... https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-betting-big-bet-comes-in-on-tampa-bay-bucs-to-repeat-as-super-bowl-champions-141541137.html Thanks for the post! Here is their full list: Kansas City Chiefs: +450 Tampa Bay Buccaneers: +700 Buffalo Bills: +1200 San Francisco 49ers: +1200 Baltimore Ravens: +1400 Cleveland Browns: +1400 Los Angeles Rams: +1400 Green Bay Packers: +1600 Indianapolis Colts: +2500 Tennessee Titans: +2500 Arizona Cardinals: +3000 Dallas Cowboys: +3000 Los Angeles Chargers: +3000 Miami Dolphins: +3000 Seattle Seahawks: +3000 New England Patriots: +3500 Denver Broncos: +4000 Minnesota Vikings: +4000 New Orleans Saints: +4000 Pittsburgh Steelers: +4000 Washington Football Team: +4000 Chicago Bears: +6600 Carolina Panthers: +8000 Las Vegas Raiders: +8000 New York Giants: +8000 Atlanta Falcons: +12500 Jacksonville Jaguars: +12500 Philadelphia Eagles: +12500 Cincinnati Bengals: +15000 New York Jets: +15000 Detroit Lions: +25000 Houston Texans: +30000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 The Ravens and Browns love continues to baffle me. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gugny said: The Ravens and Browns love continues to baffle me. The Browns are stacked with talent, they were one controversial play away from beating the Chiefs in the playoffs. If the punk (my opinion) Baker Mayfield doesnt screw it up I think the are legit SB contenders. Edited July 26, 2021 by RoyBatty is alive 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TailgateChef Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Is Jimmy G the starting QB for the 49ers? I would've placed them below the Rams, at least. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Are those odds: 1. GB with or without Rodgers? 2. Eagles with or without 🤭🤫🤐😷? * Thank you. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) The 49ers? Nahhhhhhh. Watch out for the Colts. If Wentz plays well, they will be a beast. Edited July 26, 2021 by Beast 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Are those odds: 1. GB with or without Rodgers? 2. Eagles with or without 🤭🤫🤐😷? * Thank you. What? Those questions are part of the uncertainty/inherent risk, you dont have qualifiers betting. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: What? Those questions are part of the uncertainty/inherent risk, you dont have qualifiers betting. Who's betting?! I'm seeing if the moderators are watching! 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Bills vs 49ers Super Bowl. Berman finally gets his prediction right. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Who's betting?! I'm seeing if the moderators are watching! 😁 Want to see if the moderators are watching ask what is the status is of Ertz or if Beasley was vaccinated yet. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: Want to see if the moderators are watching ask what is the status is of Ertz or if Beasley was vaccinated yet. Dammed if I can find a website that spells using semaphore. 🤔 Have to settle for this: 🙁 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 28 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: The Browns are stacked with talent, they were one controversial play away from beating the Chiefs in the playoffs. If the punk (my opinion) Baker Mayfield doesnt screw it up I think the are legit SB contenders. agree. Browns are set-up to contend for Super Bowl. They certainly have enough on defense side of ball, question is can Baker play at the level needed to win a SB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Want to see if the moderators are watching ask what is the status is of Ertz or if Beasley was vaccinated yet. Is there a site we can bet that?...🤔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, bills6969 said: agree. Browns are set-up to contend for Super Bowl. They certainly have enough on defense side of ball, question is can Baker play at the level needed to win a SB. No. Dude cannot win games without a great setup around him. He can't carry the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taro Nimbus Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Let me just put 10 bucks down on Houston! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 58 minutes ago, TailgateChef said: Is Jimmy G the starting QB for the 49ers? I would've placed them below the Rams, at least. 54 minutes ago, Beast said: The 49ers? Nahhhhhhh. Watch out for the Colts. If Wentz plays well, they will be a beast. Dont get the 49ers love. I know they were destroyed by injuries last year so that is the basis for it all. But at the same time the NFC does kind of suck outside of TB. GB is always a threat but with the Rodgers drama who knows. Seattle is getting old. LAR have Stafford but who is he throwing to? So maybe it is between SF and TB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Depends which book you go to. The stations casinos have chiefs and Bucs +400 followed by the Rams +700, Bills and Browns are +1000, Niners +1400, Packers +1500 and Ravens +1600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Big Turk said: No. Dude cannot win games without a great setup around him. He can't carry the team. never understood this narrative about baker... you might not like his demeanor or attitude but the guy can play ball. His rookie year he didnt have tons of big time weapons and a bad offensive line and did pretty well better than all the other rookie QB's. The fact is he wasn't set up to succeed he had 4 OCs in 3 years all with different schemes. I guess we will see this year will be his first year with the same scheme they can build on last year and not have to learn an entire new playbook. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 minutes ago, snowbelt_subie said: never understood this narrative about baker... you might not like his demeanor or attitude but the guy can play ball. His rookie year he didnt have tons of big time weapons and a bad offensive line and did pretty well better than all the other rookie QB's. The fact is he wasn't set up to succeed he had 4 OCs in 3 years all with different schemes. I guess we will see this year will be his first year with the same scheme they can build on last year and not have to learn an entire new playbook. Last year he had plenty of chances and did not deliver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrul120 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 10 minutes ago, snowbelt_subie said: never understood this narrative about baker... you might not like his demeanor or attitude but the guy can play ball. His rookie year he didnt have tons of big time weapons and a bad offensive line and did pretty well better than all the other rookie QB's. The fact is he wasn't set up to succeed he had 4 OCs in 3 years all with different schemes. I guess we will see this year will be his first year with the same scheme they can build on last year and not have to learn an entire new playbook. oh man that dumpoff on 3rd and 12 or whatever the last time they had the ball in the KC game lol. Baller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, billsrul120 said: oh man that dumpoff on 3rd and 12 or whatever the last time they had the ball in the KC game lol. Baller. lol your going to talk crap with how josh allen played against the ravens and chiefs ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 minutes ago, snowbelt_subie said: lol your going to talk crap with how josh allen played against the ravens and chiefs ? Josh Allen is a far better QB than Mayfield. Not even in the same conversation at this point and Allen has more room to grow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 hours ago, Gugny said: The Ravens and Browns love continues to baffle me. Gugny unpopular opinion here in 3...2...1... The Browns are more talented than the Bills. Don't get me wrong, we have the better QB and some superlatives, but man to man, position group by position group, I think they are better. It's just the way I honestly feel. Do I want to beat them? Darn straight. Can we beat them anytime? Darn straight. I'm just sayin', if I am on the outside looking in and taking off my Bills glasses I think they are the better team. ...please keep in mind I also like flats over drums. 🖖 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 13 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Josh Allen is a far better QB than Mayfield. Not even in the same conversation at this point and Allen has more room to grow. sure last year allen was better.. for their 3 year careers baker has more yards TD passes and both have a 90 QB career rating. baker has no room to grow yep first time in his career he has had the same system 2 years in a row..... i bet he will suck. Is Freddie kitchens back coaching him? 11 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Gugny unpopular opinion here in 3...2...1... The Browns are more talented than the Bills. Don't get me wrong, we have the better QB and some superlatives, but man to man, position group by position group, I think they are better. It's just the way I honestly feel. Do I want to beat them? Darn straight. Can we beat them anytime? Darn straight. I'm just sayin', if I am on the outside looking in and taking off my Bills glasses I think they are the better team. ...please keep in mind I also like flats over drums. 🖖 i mean cant allen be this generations arron rodgers and baker be drew brees? there is enough love to go around. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 12 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: Gugny unpopular opinion here in 3...2...1... The Browns are more talented than the Bills. Don't get me wrong, we have the better QB and some superlatives, but man to man, position group by position group, I think they are better. It's just the way I honestly feel. Do I want to beat them? Darn straight. Can we beat them anytime? Darn straight. I'm just sayin', if I am on the outside looking in and taking off my Bills glasses I think they are the better team. ...please keep in mind I also like flats over drums. 🖖 The thing I like about flats is that I can get 100% of the meat off the bones every time. Not the case with the drums. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 5 hours ago, Gugny said: The Ravens and Browns love continues to baffle me. They are both powerhouse contenders right up there with the Bills, we've proven we can beat the Ravens and Lamar although some still think our playoff victory should have an asterisk because of Lamar leaving the game early to injury. Regarding the Browns, it remains to be seen where we stack up but personally I think they are a bad matchup because their strengths play to our weaknessess particularly their oline/rushing offense vs our front seven. Also think their defense is a notch ahead of ours overall and I still think about how we lost to them a few years ago when they weren't even very good under Freddy Kitchens coached team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted July 26, 2021 Author Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, snowbelt_subie said: sure last year allen was better.. for their 3 year careers baker has more yards TD passes and both have a 90 QB career rating. baker has no room to grow yep first time in his career he has had the same system 2 years in a row..... i bet he will suck. Is Freddie kitchens back coaching him? i mean cant allen be this generations arron rodgers and baker be drew brees? there is enough love to go around. Mayfield was a polished QB in college at a major program and had great coaching and first round draft picks surrounding him his whole career there... Allen was a castoff at a terrible program surrounded by bums and coaches that weren't very good. I just don't see Mayfield as being anything other than a good game manager. He didn't get the job done at any point last year where they put the ball in his hands and said go win is this game. Allen basically had the ball in his hands most of the games and they threw almost every play in some of them not even trying to run it. Edited July 26, 2021 by Big Turk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffBillsForLife Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Barring some unlucky injuries or COVID shenanigans the Bills are absolutely competing for a ring this season, anything less than the AFCCG again would be a tremendous disappointment. KC still scares the bejeezus out of me but nobody else in the AFC should be favored against the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 43 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said: ...please keep in mind I also like flats over drums. Agree, like them as is, nothing else required. With drums, I need 1 blue cheese per two drums. I have to wait till when no one's looking at parties if eating them to snag a blue cheese to myself and wander off. Like a mouse with cheese. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowbelt_subie Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Mayfield was a polished QB in college at a major program and had great coaching and first round draft picks surrounding him his whole career there... Allen was a castoff at a terrible program surrounded by bums and coaches that weren't very good. I just don't see Mayfield as being anything other than a good game manager. He didn't get the job done at any point last year where they put the ball in his hands and said go win is this game. Allen basically had the ball in his hands most of the games and they threw almost every play in some of them not even trying to run it. never understood that baker mayfield is more brett farve than game manager you are basically saying he is andy dalton or cousins. doesnt make much sense he is in a run first offense but that isnt his fault its just 2 ways of going about it. me personally i would rather have a balance offense than one that has no running game and passes every down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsrul120 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 1 hour ago, snowbelt_subie said: lol your going to talk crap with how josh allen played against the ravens and chiefs ? Allen went down swinging same as mahomes in the superbowl. Cant win them all. Mayfield panicked and didnt trust his right arm to get it done. Take off the blinders bud hes not that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 46 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Mayfield was a polished QB in college at a major program and had great coaching and first round draft picks surrounding him his whole career there... Allen was a castoff at a terrible program surrounded by bums and coaches that weren't very good. What difference does that make today? They are four years removed from college. I think it's safe to say that Allen's college WRs aren't factored into the Superbowl odds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 45 minutes ago, BuffBillsForLife said: Barring some unlucky injuries or COVID shenanigans the Bills are absolutely competing for a ring this season, anything less than the AFCCG again would be a tremendous disappointment. KC still scares the bejeezus out of me but nobody else in the AFC should be favored against the Bills. It's truly a year to year league and that's what concerns me most about all the national media love and hype for this team is how truly difficult it's going to be to even win the division again, let alone get to another AFCG and/or beyond again. But I do agree that barring injuries, at worse the Bills should be a top 3 or 4 team in the AFC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: Want to see if the moderators are watching ask what is the status is of Ertz or if Beasley was vaccinated yet. Is Ertz vaccinated? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Why do the 9ers have so much love? Shanahan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 6 hours ago, Gugny said: The Ravens and Browns love continues to baffle me. 6 hours ago, RoyBatty is alive said: The Browns are stacked with talent, they were one controversial play away from beating the Chiefs in the playoffs. If the punk (my opinion) Baker Mayfield doesnt screw it up I think the are legit SB contenders. And that, I believe, is Gug’s point. The QBs are Lamont and The Punk. They just don’t compare to Mahomes, Brady*, Allen, and Rodgers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugar High JA17 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 ODDS here in Albuquerque at local sports books on the reservation AKA Tribal Land have Bills at +1800. Do you think $50 is a good or bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybrew1 Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 7 hours ago, Big Turk said: Tied with SF at +1200. Behind the favorites KC at +450 and TB at +700. Should be another fantastic year to be a Bills fan... https://sports.yahoo.com/nfl-betting-big-bet-comes-in-on-tampa-bay-bucs-to-repeat-as-super-bowl-champions-141541137.html Holy *****! SF is good, but sooooo many question marks. They're a clear notch below the Bills, imho. i have the Bills all alone at three as the third seed. i have the whole NFC West, GB, Baltimore, Tennessee, And Cleveland tied at the #4 seed. Why are the Bills alone at three? Josh Allen...... And! his whole offense....the line and the skill..... the pass blue Viking is superb and our skill room is top five in the NFL. and while we're not good at RB we are clearly not bad either......Mark my words.....The run game will be better in 2021. It will be more effective. Daboll is going to work it, work it, work it; fix it. Go Bills! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maddenboy Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, billybrew1 said: Holy *****! SF is good, but sooooo many question marks. They're a clear notch below the Bills, imho. i have the Bills all alone at three as the third seed. i have the whole NFC West, GB, Baltimore, Tennessee, And Cleveland tied at the #4 seed. Go Bills! Why is the whole NFC West on equal footing? Considering the strength of the division, it seems that the winner will Not have much home field advantage in the playoffs. Seems the winner will not have more than 12 wins, maybe fewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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