Brady plays all of 2020 with Unreported MCL Injury

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Yep.

And the league investigated it.

Brady isn’t Hughes and JH isn’t associated with multiple cheating for competitive edge scandal.

 

Yea but this is shades of catching him going 4 over the speed limit or slow rolling a stop sign and screaming he needs harsh punishment as a repeat offender. 
 

hell, it’s like him being a passenger in that car as he doesn’t issue injury reports for the bucs.

Edited July 17, 2021 by NoSaint

[4merper4mer]

29 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Jerry Hughes got a slap on the wrist for this the year we lost to HOU I believe

Did Hughes play the entire season hurt?  

[BillsShredder83]

20 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said:

Did Hughes play the entire season hurt?  

I was just responding to the post asking if this was illegal, def not justifying anything terrible Tom is up to

[Orlando Tim]

For any player who has not been caught multiple times cheating this should be at worst a $25k fine kind of deal. The only reason is might be more is his history of cheating and the fact that the casinos are very possibly really pissed. NFL I think is pretty open about their relationship with gambling so it might be a one game suspension 

[NoSaint]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

For any player who has not been caught multiple times cheating this should be at worst a $25k fine kind of deal. The only reason is might be more is his history of cheating and the fact that the casinos are very possibly really pissed. NFL I think is pretty open about their relationship with gambling so it might be a one game suspension 

it won’t be.

[Orlando Tim]

Just now, NoSaint said:

it won’t be.

I should have stated I expect a decent fine but nothing else. I was being very hypothetical. 

[Patrick Duffy]

At best Bucs may get a fine that is equivalent to when I clean inside my vehicle and fine 30-60 cents of change under my seat and put in my kids coin jar.

[machine gun kelly]

15 hours ago, TroutDog said:

Classic movie!

 You know Brady my grandmother did that to me once, once!

 

 

 

I couldn’t help myself.  Thought you’d get a chuckle Trout.  Sad thing is after posting I thought it would be funny to watch it again as I haven’t seen this movie in thirty years. I couldn’t find it anywhere on a bunch of apps.  

[PromoTheRobot]

On 7/16/2021 at 4:19 PM, LeGOATski said:

There's a rule against this? I'm honestly curious.

 

I'm pretty sure the Bills downplayed some injuries, too. This happens every year.

What if he's not injured but said he was so he comes off like Superman?

3 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

 You know Brady my grandmother did that to me once, once!

 

 

 

I couldn’t help myself.  Thought you’d get a chuckle Trout.  Sad thing is after posting I thought it would be funny to watch it again as I haven’t seen this movie in thirty years. I couldn’t find it anywhere on a bunch of apps.  

An underrated classic. "And I'm the pope. Hey, it is the pope!"

[T master]

Well i guess this is proof that you can play at a high level with that type of injury so what's the big deal about reporting it i don't understand why that should make a difference no one could tell he had it apparently so what's the big deal ? 

 

 

[Patrick Duffy]

6 minutes ago, T master said:

Well i guess this is proof that you can play at a high level with that type of injury so what's the big deal about reporting it i don't understand why that should make a difference no one could tell he had it apparently so what's the big deal ? 

 

 

Yeah really. I guess it wasn't too bad of an injury at all then 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

19 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said:

Jerry Hughes got a slap on the wrist for this the year we lost to HOU I believe

 

Hughes was on the injury report for the wrist multiple weeks.

The question was whether the Bills mis-reported him as having a veteran rest day when he was actually not practicing due to the wrist

The conclusion was no, he was actually having a veteran rest day and would have practiced otherwise.

 

It's the Bills, not Hughes, that were under scrutiny since it's the club's responsibility to report injuries.

 

17 hours ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

For any player who has not been caught multiple times cheating this should be at worst a $25k fine kind of deal. The only reason is might be more is his history of cheating and the fact that the casinos are very possibly really pissed. NFL I think is pretty open about their relationship with gambling so it might be a one game suspension 

 

It's the club's responsibility to report injuries, not the players.    They are the ones who face fines or sanctions.

 

If Brady concealed the injury from the club, that's between him and them.

[Mr. WEO]

On 7/16/2021 at 4:05 PM, Buffalo Boy said:

   And, yet again Tommy Terrific flaunts the NFL injury reporting requirements for the whole season. 
    Clearly, the Bucs should pay a stiff penalty for this but my guess is it will be a slap on the wrist.
     Brady got his Lombardy. The NFL got their ratings and story line. “Nothing to see here.”

https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEDnBRq5T6ttAyxmL0S7R1xUqFggEKg4IACoGCAow5tYTMODEAjCyugQ?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen

What if it was reported (by the team, players aren’t responsible for putting out that list) every week?

 

What changes? 
 

 

[US Egg]

 

[gobillsinytown]

One of the national talk shows indicated that another reason for him not reporting it was that the area of the injury might be targeted by pass rushers.  Gregggg Williams used to let his pass rushers know the injuries of the players on the opposing offense, so I would expect that had something to do with it.

Edited July 18, 2021 by gobillsinytown

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

Clearly Brady is the greatest GOAT of all time

[BornAgainBillsFan]

On 7/16/2021 at 9:01 PM, Wacka said:

Over/under on what year Brady will be permanently in a wheelchair?

 

I'm rooting for this year.

[BornAgainBillsFan]

1. Brady never saw a league rule he felt he needed to follow. I can't wait until he's retired, and our great national nightmare is over.

2. The reporting of player injuries is a service by the NFL to the gambling world (even before gambling was encouraged!). Vegas needs to know the details, so they can adjust the point spreads accordingly. And degenerate gamblers, present company excluded, need the same to determine how much of their kid's college fund gets bet every week.

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, gobillsinytown said:

One of the national talk shows indicated that another reason for him not reporting it was that the area of the injury might be targeted by pass rushers.  Gregggg Williams used to let his pass rushers know the injuries of the players on the opposing offense, so I would expect that had something to do with it.

that’s pretty much 100% the reason. It’s not like he was trying to get defenses to respect his threat to scramble. He didn’t want dudes hitting low or giving it extra attention in piles. 

[Buffalo Boy]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

What if it was reported (by the team, players aren’t responsible for putting out that list) every week?

 

What changes? 
 

 

   They would have followed the rules.

   

[Mr. WEO]

27 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   They would have followed the rules.

   

With no change in outcome for players, the team or opponents.  

[Buffalo Boy]

2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

With no change in outcome for players, the team or opponents.  

    You don’t know that.

    “Gee Officer, I know I shouldn’t drink and drive but I made it home so No harm, No Foul?”

[NoSaint]

2 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

    You don’t know that.

    “Gee Officer, I know I shouldn’t drink and drive but I made it home so No harm, No Foul?”

comparing a rule at detriment to player safety but helping fans bet to drunk driving is a bit much 

[Buffalo Boy]

7 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

comparing a rule at detriment to player safety but helping fans bet to drunk driving is a bit much 

Hyperbolic yes. Off base, no.

[Since1981]

“wide receiver announced in his final media session of the season that he broke his fibula during Buffalo's Week 16 game against the Patriots. Beasley  "It was bad the first game I played, but after that you take a few meds and suck it up."

[NoSaint]

20 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

Hyperbolic yes. Off base, no.

hyperbolic to the point of being Counterproductive. 
 

I can’t speak to what base you think you are standing on but I don’t recall bases being way out in left field. It’s going to be difficult to score from way out there. 

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, Buffalo Boy said:

    You don’t know that.

    “Gee Officer, I know I shouldn’t drink and drive but I made it home so No harm, No Foul?”

this makes absolutely no sense.  
 

the guy wasn’t injured enough to not get his team to the SB snd win it.  If Tampa Bay listed Brady every week as “questionable/knee” because of an MCL tear, it would have made no difference  to anyone.  

Edited July 18, 2021 by Mr. WEO

[Buffalo Boy]

1 hour ago, NoSaint said:

hyperbolic to the point of being Counterproductive. 
 

I can’t speak to what base you think you are standing on but I don’t recall bases being way out in left field. It’s going to be difficult to score from way out there. 

   So, eff the rules?

   Because you suddenly have TB’s back because in following the rules he might get hurt?

   Because, suddenly rules that have been in place for decades don’t matter in this instance because???

   It’s a rule. It’s been a rule. This upcoming season it will still be a rule. 
I didn’t make the rule. I simply pointed out that not following any rule , for whatever reason, and getting caught after the fact is Still Breaking the Rule.

    Actions have consequences. Brady and Tampa should suffer the consequences for breaking the rule.

    Players get fined for not wearing the right socks. That’s a BS rule. But it is a rule. Doesn’t effect the game or Vegas. 

 

15 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

this makes absolutely no sense.  
 

the guy wasn’t injured enough to not get his team to the SB snd win it.  If Tampa Bay listed Brady every week as “questionable/knee” because of an MCL tear, it would have made no difference  to anyone.  

   Might have made a difference to the teams who didn’t have to play Brady if someone targeted him.

   Not fair? Dirty play? Or real life in the

NFL?

[Niagara Bill]

I do not believe the report any more than he had nothing to do with deflated footballs.

[PrimeTime101]

On 7/16/2021 at 4:19 PM, LeGOATski said:

There's a rule against this? I'm honestly curious.

 

I'm pretty sure the Bills downplayed some injuries, too. This happens every year.

The Personnel (Injury) Report Policy has been a cornerstone of public confidence in the NFL for many decades. The credibility of the NFL, teams, owners and team personnel requires full compliance with and uniform enforcement of the policy. The intent is to provide full and complete information on player availability. It is NFL policy that information for dissemination to the public on all injured players be reported in a satisfactory manner by clubs to the league office, the opposing team, local and national media, and broadcast partners each game week of the regular season and postseason (including for the two Super Bowl teams between the Championship Games and Super Bowl). The information must be credible, accurate, timely, and specific within the guidelines of the policy, which is of paramount importance in maintaining the integrity of the game. A violation of the policy may result in Commissioner discipline, which may include a fine on the involved club, fines or suspensions of involved individuals, as well as the possible forfeiture of draft choices by the involved club. Each Public Relations Director is responsible for ensuring that all required injury and practice/game participation information is reported to the NFL Communications Department, and issued to the opposing team, local and national media, broadcast partners, etc., via the NFL Intranet site as provided hereinbelow. The Personnel (Injury) Report Policy is comprised of three sections: 1) Practice Report 2) Game Status Report 3) In-Game Injury Report

 

as its written in full

[Mr. WEO]

45 minutes ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   So, eff the rules?

   Because you suddenly have TB’s back because in following the rules he might get hurt?

   Because, suddenly rules that have been in place for decades don’t matter in this instance because???

   It’s a rule. It’s been a rule. This upcoming season it will still be a rule. 
I didn’t make the rule. I simply pointed out that not following any rule , for whatever reason, and getting caught after the fact is Still Breaking the Rule.

    Actions have consequences. Brady and Tampa should suffer the consequences for breaking the rule.

    Players get fined for not wearing the right socks. That’s a BS rule. But it is a rule. Doesn’t effect the game or Vegas. 

 

   Might have made a difference to the teams who didn’t have to play Brady if someone targeted him.

   Not fair? Dirty play? Or real life in the

NFL?

Every QB is a target in every game.  Any D player had ample opportunity to “target” him, his knee, or whatever you are imagining would have been different.

 

Tampa may be liable for a fine.  Players aren’t.  You seem stuck on that….
 

 

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Boy said:

   So, eff the rules?

   Because you suddenly have TB’s back because in following the rules he might get hurt?

   Because, suddenly rules that have been in place for decades don’t matter in this instance because???

   It’s a rule. It’s been a rule. This upcoming season it will still be a rule. 
I didn’t make the rule. I simply pointed out that not following any rule , for whatever reason, and getting caught after the fact is Still Breaking the Rule.

    Actions have consequences. Brady and Tampa should suffer the consequences for breaking the rule.

    Players get fined for not wearing the right socks. That’s a BS rule. But it is a rule. Doesn’t effect the game or Vegas. 

 

   Might have made a difference to the teams who didn’t have to play Brady if someone targeted him.

   Not fair? Dirty play? Or real life in the

NFL?

and the team will get fined because that’s the rule. 
 

again, this is going 59 in a 55. It’s boring. It’s low impact. Everybody does it. He’s not getting jail time. He wasn’t even the guy driving the car in your analogy as it’s a rule for the team to report it, not the player. 

[BigDingus]

On 7/16/2021 at 4:27 PM, Chandler#81 said:

Brady cheats? I’m shocked SHOCKED, I TELL YA!

 

Eh, I'd call this more of a lie, and yeah, he's definitely a liar lol

[Mr. WEO]

5 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

 

Eh, I'd call this more of a lie, and yeah, he's definitely a liar lol

What did he lie about?

[blacklabel]

Ya know... I'm gonna give credit where it's due. Ol' Tommy Boy and Papa Bill are the GOATs of their respective occupations.

 

That said, their legacy is always going to have a little black eye to it. Because if you ask me, the Pats and Brady either flat out broke the rules or constantly pushed the envelope as far as they could in their endless quest to find a winning edge. From Spygate to Deflategate to Brady's defending of that walking hemorrhoid called Antonio Brown and to Belechick's and now Araians' refusal to disclose the injuries. Throw that on top of all the BS calls he's had go his way every year since his first SB win and yeah, it was neat to see history be made but also I hated all of it because again, the dude skirts the rules on a regular basis and then gets all the friggin' calls in the world to go his way. 

 

I hope a decade after he's retired it comes out that he was on a Lance Armstrong level of cheating and they have to strip all of his titles. And take his testicles just for good measure. 

[1ManRaid]

18 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said:

What did he lie about?

 

About cheating.

[Mr. WEO]

Just now, 1ManRaid said:

 

About cheating.

 

 

Try to keep up...

[Hapless Bills Fan]

22 hours ago, Mr. WEO said:

With no change in outcome for players, the team or opponents.  

 

Not necessarily.  Players are cagy about injuries and hate to report them because injuries are part of the other team's scouting report and defenders hone in on them.

[Mr. WEO]

11 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Not necessarily.  Players are cagy about injuries and hate to report them because injuries are part of the other team's scouting report and defenders hone in on them.

 

I'm not a believer that any D player would lay off of a QB because he thinks he may NOT be injured in some way or another.  Nor would they be more likely to T off on a guy because they think he is.  Their goal always is to hit the QB as hard as possible.

 

Forget the fact that Brady gave no indication this was a real injury in the way he plays.  And the team withheld the info, not the player.  Brady made it clear to the Bucs he was dealing with a knee injury last Spring/Summer.

 

https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nfl/news/tom-brady-injury-problem-nfl-buccaneers/14jruk6yj08971uczrir1tpx7v

Edited July 19, 2021 by Mr. WEO

[P Riv]

Disclosing a lower body injury is actually a big deal because it directly relates to mobility.  If a CB has a hamstring issue?  I think the relevance is obvious.  If its a RB, then you game plan to plug up the middle and make him bounce it outside and test that leg/knee.  In the case of Brady, teams would try to push him outside the pocket or just get him off his spot.  Whether they can do it effectively is another thing, but with that knowledge someone would have tried.  

Seems to me this was obvious rule breaking.