Poll - Will we score over 500 points again for the 2021 season?

[BillsFan619]

Please list your reasons for the answer you gave.

 

I believe we can. Another year in the system, same great offense, JA having a year more of experience and an easier schedule (at least on paper). Another game doesn’t hurt either.

 

Go Bills!

Edited July 5, 2021 by BillsFan619

[BubbaT]

Yes. They're playing 17 games instead of 16. Even with diminished production I think they get there. Barring injuries to key players of course

Edited July 5, 2021 by BubbaT

[Doc Brown]

It'll be tough now that Lee Smith is gone.  

[Milanos Milano]

Im expecting near record total points. 

[BillsFan619]

11 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

It'll be tough now that Lee Smith is gone.  

Hahaha. Nice bro!

9 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

Im expecting near record total points. 

That’d be cool!

 

What has you thinking that?

[Milanos Milano]

11 minutes ago, BillsFan619 said:

Hahaha. Nice bro!

That’d be cool!

 

What has you thinking that?

I just don’t see many teams stopping us, especially with another great route runner in Sanders. I don’t think Allen has reached his ceiling yet either. 

[BillsFan619]

5 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said:

I just don’t see many teams stopping us, especially with another great route runner in Sanders. I don’t think Allen has reached his ceiling yet either. 

Awesome thoughts man!

Edited July 5, 2021 by BillsFan619

[Chandler#81]

Who GAF? W’s are the ONLY metric. 

Seriously, this is just ridiculous. If anything, more late game ball control will cut down on opponents trying -and often succeeding- to score late trying to get back in the game. This isn’t video games, kids🤦‍♂️

[Doc Brown]

1 minute ago, Chandler#81 said:

Who GAF? W’s are the ONLY metric. 

Seriously, this is just ridiculous. If anything, more late game ball control will cut down on opponents trying -and often succeeding- to score late trying to get back in the game. This isn’t video games, kids🤦‍♂️

Ties are also a metric.  A little bit over the top reaction maybe given this is the dead time of year for the NFL.

 

I almost want to do a Tyler Bass over/under 30 made field goals thread now.

[BillsFan619]

13 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Who GAF? W’s are the ONLY metric. 

Seriously, this is just ridiculous. If anything, more late game ball control will cut down on opponents trying -and often succeeding- to score late trying to get back in the game. This isn’t video games, kids🤦‍♂️

Who took away your fireworks, man?

 

Just having fun with you. Thanks for the thoughts.

 

I will say though, one of the intents of the poll was to create discussion and critical thought about our 2021 offense amongst us Bills fans. This is why I mentioned in my original post to give reasons why they gave the answer they did.

 

 

Edited July 5, 2021 by BillsFan619

[LABILLBACKER]

I think we average 30/ game. 510 points....

13-4....

[Chandler#81]

54 minutes ago, Doc Brown said:

... A little bit over the top reaction maybe given this is the dead time of year for the NFL.

 

I almost want to do a Tyler Bass over/under 30 made field goals thread now.

Yes, it is. It’s called ‘Bud Nipping’. When kids are out of school and know Moms iPad password, we get these type of infantile, mind-numbing speculation threads that dumb down the whole board, regardless of the season. Little Petey and JimmyJoe see this and thinks ‘that’s a good idea!’ 🤦‍♂️

[machine gun kelly]

Chand, who crapped in you’re cornflakes?  Just kidding old friend.  The boys are bored.

 

I’ll play.  We defeated 6 of the top 10 defenses last year.  LAR, PITT, SF, Balt, Indy, and LAC.  We have 17 games, not 16, an upgrade in Sanders, retained the key players, and improved to a degree our defensive players.

 

We only lost to three teams.  The Cards was a fluke as we had them until the Hail Mary.  The Titans was a screwy loss given key injuries.  We don’t have an answer yet for the Chiefs.  This year we have the AFCS, NFCS, the Chiefs and Steelers.  That is a better schedule for us.  Still some tough opponents, but was harder last year.

 

Bottom line is we can surpass 29.5 pts./game.

Edited July 5, 2021 by machine gun kelly

[Chandler#81]

24 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said:

Chand, who crapped in you’re cornflakes?  Just kidding old friend.  The boys are bored.

 

I’ll play.  We defeated 6 of the top 10 defenses last year.  LAR, PITT, SF, Balt, Indy, and LAC.  We have 17 games, not 16, an upgrade in Sanders, retained the key players, and improved to a degree our defensive players.

 

We only lost to three teams.  The Cards was a fluke as we had them until the Hail Mary.  The Titans was a screwy loss given key injuries.  We don’t have an answer yet fir the Chiefs.  This year we have the AFCS, NFCS, the Chiefs and Steelers.  That is a better schedule for us.  Still some tough opponents, but was harder last year.

 

Bottom line is we can surpass 29.5 pts./game.

True, but if we don’t have to, why expose our receiver corps to unnecessary injury. How healthy were they in January? How many times did we light up the scoreboard like a Pinball Wizard? We hit Russel Wilson FIFTEEN freakin’ times and sacked him 7 more. Yet they scored 34 points because we kept getting off the field after just a couple minutes of possession. Granted, we scored at will. Consequently, they had many more offensive possessions than usual, which allowed them to nearly overcome 4 turnovers & 7 sacks on the road. 

If we learned anything in a meaningless quest to make Allen an mvp candidate, it’s that it wasn’t necessary at all.

[machine gun kelly]

That’s true bud.  We did sit on some leads, but probably not enough.  We have to prove we can run more effectively when we are up by 14-17 pts., and as you stated, give the WR a break.  It was so disappointing just about every WR was injured in the KC game.  I’m very hopeful with this schedule (not that it means that much as so much changes year to year) we can get the #1 seed to get an extra week off.  Until we replicate the running part of 2019, we’re going to run with our WR’s.

[Don Otreply]

With early substantial  leads our reborn run game will eat a lot of clock to control the game flow, so we will likely not need to score as much as that, unless we are making a point…, 

[Virgil]

2 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

True, but if we don’t have to, why expose our receiver corps to unnecessary injury. How healthy were they in January? How many times did we light up the scoreboard like a Pinball Wizard? We hit Russel Wilson FIFTEEN freakin’ times and sacked him 7 more. Yet they scored 34 points because we kept getting off the field after just a couple minutes of possession. Granted, we scored at will. Consequently, they had many more offensive possessions than usual, which allowed them to nearly overcome 4 turnovers & 7 sacks on the road. 

If we learned anything in a meaningless quest to make Allen an mvp candidate, it’s that it wasn’t necessary at all.

I think we learned last year that we aren’t going to be a team that utilized clock and ball control to win games.  We absolutely stepped on the throats of our opponents when they were done and Josh does not want to come out of games.  With that, and the extra game, I think we can break the record.  
 

I’m also sending you a virtual hug and am saving a lap dance for you at the opener.

[eball]

Yep.  Don’t see too many defenses who are going to slow down this offense, and I expect the defense to be markedly better as well, which should lead to more points.

[Patrick Duffy]

I don't see why not, especially if team stays healthy for the most part along with the extra game that will add at least some points. If not then I think it will be close either way.

[Big Turk]

There is an extra game so I would expect them to easily surpass that. Our offense will be prolific.

[Mr. WEO]

Bunch of teams could be over 500 with 17.  How can Nills not be one of them??

[thurst44]

I voted 500 or more, because I can't help but believe this team is only scratching the surface of what they are capable of both overall and offensively. As much as there's a possibility Josh could regress, he also could be continuing to improve. Knox could figure out his issues, a 30-year-old Ertz could finally arrive and rebound to the form he played the six seasons prior to his injury-riddled 2020. Gabriel Davis could evolve into a star. Singletary and Moss (and/or Breida or even Williams or Wade) could have breakout years and the running game could actually be a factor. A lot of people seem to completely dismiss Singletary, forgetting that he had an a great year just two seasons ago. Even last year he put up 4.4ypc and if you watch highlights he had well more than the zero big plays at big moments people attribute to him. Who knows what Moss can bring and Breida's still young and has had some moments over his career. 

 

I'm not saying I think it's guaranteed that they'll score over 500 pts again (despite my vote i'm not even sure it's 50/50)--and importantly, they might not need to given the defensive drop was a likely aberration--but it's more likely than not given that all the elements are still there and so many of them have quite possibly not neared their potential, including Josh Allen. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

Should be pretty easy with Allen and 17 games.  No brainer

[PrimeTime101]

10 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Who GAF? W’s are the ONLY metric. 

Seriously, this is just ridiculous. If anything, more late game ball control will cut down on opponents trying -and often succeeding- to score late trying to get back in the game. This isn’t video games, kids🤦‍♂️

Actually your reply is overkill and so is your insult calling us kids.

 

We averaged 31.3125 points per game last year

 

x that by 17 games is?

 

532.2125

 

does that seem so ridiculous now?

 

or should I write it in crayon for you?

 

considering we broke 500 points last year at 501?

 

are we still being childish? Playing Video Games?

 

I respect the heck out of you Chandler.. Just wish you would not result to calling us kids.

[DJB]

I voted both options to cover my bases

[BillsFan619]

7 hours ago, machine gun kelly said:

Chand, who crapped in you’re cornflakes?  Just kidding old friend.  The boys are bored.

 

I’ll play.  We defeated 6 of the top 10 defenses last year.  LAR, PITT, SF, Balt, Indy, and LAC.  We have 17 games, not 16, an upgrade in Sanders, retained the key players, and improved to a degree our defensive players.

 

We only lost to three teams.  The Cards was a fluke as we had them until the Hail Mary.  The Titans was a screwy loss given key injuries.  We don’t have an answer yet for the Chiefs.  This year we have the AFCS, NFCS, the Chiefs and Steelers.  That is a better schedule for us.  Still some tough opponents, but was harder last year.

 

Bottom line is we can surpass 29.5 pts./game.

Great points. Thanks for sharing.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

With a little more running it will open up the passing game and allow for more points.

 

 

10 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Who GAF? W’s are the ONLY metric. 

Seriously, this is just ridiculous. If anything, more late game ball control will cut down on opponents trying -and often succeeding- to score late trying to get back in the game. This isn’t video games, kids🤦‍♂️

 

Get off my LAWN !!!     😋

 

 

[BillsFan619]

4 hours ago, Virgil said:

I think we learned last year that we aren’t going to be a team that utilized clock and ball control to win games.  We absolutely stepped on the throats of our opponents when they were done and Josh does not want to come out of games.  With that, and the extra game, I think we can break the record.  
 

I’m also sending you a virtual hug and am saving a lap dance for you at the opener.

Good to hear from you, Virg.

 

Looking forward to your weekly thoughts during the season.

[Buffalo Barbarian]

10 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Ties are also a metric.  A little bit over the top reaction maybe given this is the dead time of year for the NFL.

 

I almost want to do a Tyler Bass over/under 30 made field goals thread now.

 

do it

 

 

[BillsFan619]

1 hour ago, thurst44 said:

I voted 500 or more, because I can't help but believe this team is only scratching the surface of what they are capable of both overall and offensively. As much as there's a possibility Josh could regress, he also could be continuing to improve. Knox could figure out his issues, a 30-year-old Ertz could finally arrive and rebound to the form he played the six seasons prior to his injury-riddled 2020. Gabriel Davis could evolve into a star. Singletary and Moss (and/or Breida or even Williams or Wade) could have breakout years and the running game could actually be a factor. A lot of people seem to completely dismiss Singletary, forgetting that he had an a great year just two seasons ago. Even last year he put up 4.4ypc and if you watch highlights he had well more than the zero big plays at big moments people attribute to him. Who knows what Moss can bring and Breida's still young and has had some moments over his career. 

 

I'm not saying I think it's guaranteed that they'll score over 500 pts again (despite my vote i'm not even sure it's 50/50)--and importantly, they might not need to given the defensive drop was a likely aberration--but it's more likely than not given that all the elements are still there and so many of them have quite possibly not neared their potential, including Josh Allen. 

Good analysis, Thurst. Yeah, I agree, that’s why I voted yes too. 
 

I think our offense is going to be even better. I know that doesn’t always equate to more points (ie- tougher defenses, not needing to score as much with commanding leads late in games, etc.). That said, our offense has the talent to be super efficient and score at will.

[Buffalo Boy]

Yes!!!

Extra game + a much improved D that gives the ball back to Allen and Company.

[Watkins101]

I think we’ll get over 500 points, but probably a little lower ppg than last year. I think defenses will be a bit better this year. 

[Utah John]

NFL DCs are in business to solve offenses.  Lamar Jackson lit up the league, until DCs figured out how to slow him and then stop him.  Ref: The Bills held Baltimore to a field goal in their playoff game.

 

DCs around the league are all trying to figure out how to defend Allen.  If someone does figure that out, all the copycats will take note, and they'll do it too.

 

It's just hard for guys to maintain exceptional performance year after year.  

 

That's why I voted no in this poll.  It's not a lack of faith in Allen or Diggs or Daboll.  It's respect for DCs in the NFL.

[BillsFan619]

1 minute ago, Utah John said:

NFL DCs are in business to solve offenses.  Lamar Jackson lit up the league, until DCs figured out how to slow him and then stop him.  Ref: The Bills held Baltimore to a field goal in their playoff game.

 

DCs around the league are all trying to figure out how to defend Allen.  If someone does figure that out, all the copycats will take note, and they'll do it too.

 

It's just hard for guys to maintain exceptional performance year after year.  

 

That's why I voted no in this poll.  It's not a lack of faith in Allen or Diggs or Daboll.  It's respect for DCs in the NFL.

Good perspective, Utah.

[Patrick Duffy]

1 hour ago, PrimeTime101 said:

I respect the heck out of you Chandler.. Just wish you would not result to calling us kids.

Sometimes you have to brush @Chandler#81off, he means well, but when his depends gets full and the home health nurse is gone for the day he gets snippy and acts out. So try not to take it personally....  😃

Edited July 5, 2021 by Patrick_Duffy

[Doc Brown]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said:

 

do it

 

 

Chandler might punch me through the computer screen.

[thurst44]

1 hour ago, Watkins101 said:

I think we’ll get over 500 points, but probably a little lower ppg than last year. I think defenses will be a bit better this year. 

That's a very good point--a lot of last year's offensive production could have been inflated by last year's weird nature. It's been what I've been arguing as to why our D slipped. The lack of practice might have hit defenses more than offenses--and certain sorts of defenses more than other. That said, the higher likelihood that our offense's needle is pointed up than down and the extra game should help Bills get over 500 yards.

[loedward22]

yes - same OC, another year of experience for Josh Allen, returning everyone of consequence on offense, 17 games...

[Buffalophil1948]

Last year the Rams game was a warning.  The Cardinals game put an exclamation point on it. You can't take your foot off the gas and let teams hang around.  Think they got the message.  Denver, New England and Miami saw how I think they will play all season. If everyone is healthy 500 should be easily obtainable. 

20-0 Baby!!!

[BillsFan619]

1 hour ago, Buffalophil1948 said:

Last year the Rams game was a warning.  The Cardinals game put an exclamation point on it. You can't take your foot off the gas and let teams hang around.  Think they got the message.  Denver, New England and Miami saw how I think they will play all season. If everyone is healthy 500 should be easily obtainable. 

20-0 Baby!!!

Love your enthusiasm.

 

Go Bills!