Cole Beasley announces he will not be following Covid protocols, willing to retire

[SCBills]

6 minutes ago, SDS said:

I’ve been reading and keeping my comments to myself. But if I was to say something this was going to be my comment.
 

Quite frankly, the people who refuse to get vaccinated are simply grifters. They grift on the doctors and nurses and scientists and immunologists and mathematicians and all the vaccinated people in the general public who got out of the wagon and are pulling us out of this mess. They don’t care if they get sick and get hospitalized because somebody else will be there to take care of them, the caregivers who are required to be vaccinated, so they can perform the simple act of breathing.

 

Somewhere Jenny McCarthy is smiling. 

Do you get the flu vaccine every year?  
 

Do you eat healthy and exercise? 
 

Do you avoid smoking, alcohol and recreational drug use?  
 

Or are you like most of the people who have this opinion?... Self righteous folks with their own vices lending them to be a potential drain on the healthcare system, while patting themselves on the back, ad nauseum, for getting one COVID vaccine. 
 

Edited June 19, 2021 by SCBills

[Reed83HOF]

33 minutes ago, ~Kostabi~ said:

WHEW.... Holy Crap Man Im like what did I doooooo????  LOL

I won't say who it is, but another poster in this thread whose name started with the letter 'K' was who I confused you with. I expected him to be on vacation lol

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, Worstcaseontario said:

Lol @ anyone who wants him cut, theres many other bills that feel the same was beasley does so get ready for a fun season if you wana go that route 😂

he won’t be cut, not for just this little twitter tirade. But if he goes into the season and is regularly breaking protocol (as he says he will) and is thus continuing to incur fines and the wrong kind of attention, then yes he’s out the door. Sure there are other teammates who share his view, but they’ve made no indication that they are going to rock the boat like this.

[plenzmd1]

1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said:

 

I follow the Jets, Dolphins and Pats. This has not been a subject for any of them. There are players on this team that are making this the subject for the Bills. 

 

I've felt for awhile that the Bills don't seem as focused as last season and I really hope I'm wrong, but this certainly leads into my paranoia. 

and for many,that is really the only thing that matters...how does this affect wins and losses. Maybe for players, its more important than wins and losses.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, plenzmd1 said:

and for many,that is really the only thing that matters...how does this affect wins and losses. Maybe for players, its more important than wins and losses.

Let’s be real.. unless Cole Beasley makes this cause his life’s mission..  nobody will care about this come Week 1.  
 

Until we’re the one team below the 85% threshold, this isn’t a uniquely Bills issue - even if our guys have been a bit more vocal against vaccination.   
 

As it stands, last I checked, two teams are above that threshold.... two. 

[JoPoy88]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Do you get the flu vaccine every year?  
 

Do you eat healthy and exercise? 
 

Do you avoid smoking, alcohol and recreational drug use?  
 

Or are you like most of the people who have this opinion?... Self righteous folks with their own vices lending them to be a potential drain on the healthcare system, while patting themselves on the back, ad nauseum, for getting one COVID vaccine. 
 

all false analogies. Comparing longstanding, habitual unhealthy behaviors to an acute, worldwide, communicable health crisis? Yeah you do not know what you’re doing.

[Rocky Landing]

23 minutes ago, Bill Lewes said:

This is just the beginning.  Cole shouldn't have opened his mouth.  The team agreed to stay closed about the topic.  Guess who's gonna be all over GMF all week . . . 

I thought the dude was all about team 

There's no "V" in "Team."

[SCBills]

Just now, JoPoy88 said:

all false analogies. Comparing longstanding, habitual unhealthy behaviors to an acute, worldwide, communicable health crisis? Yeah you do not know what you’re doing.

The assertion was that we’re grifters on the healthcare system for not getting vaccinated against COVID.  
 

That’s such a ridiculous assertion.  Especially when so many of us who aren’t, are young and take care of ourselves. i.e. professional athletes. 

[SDS]

Just now, JoPoy88 said:

all false analogies. Comparing longstanding, habitual unhealthy behaviors to an acute, worldwide, communicable health crisis? Yeah you do not know what you’re doing.

but his family is in medicine. 🙄

[Fred Slacks]

Someone else misspoke by saying the majority of Americans are vaccinated. Maybe the majority of players are. But Americans aren’t getting vaccinated. That’s why the government is bribing us to get vaccinated to get to the threshold they think is safe. They are offering free beer, donuts, and in California are even doing a cash lottery.   
 

the reality is the dynamic is changing rapidly now. The next couple months I think will change as well. There’s a pot of people who don’t want to be told what to do. Unfortunately there’s no way to have this conversation without it getting political. I do believe there’s a lot of players that lean to not being vaccinated. I mean these guys are regulated on what hey are allowed to consume as a multi vitamin. Now they’re being told they need to take a vaccine which still hasn’t been FDA approved. So I can see there position. 
 

it’s just unprecedented what has occurred and what will be the outcome of how we as a world reacted. It will be interesting to see how things go though. I mean lots of states are opening up completely now. So I wonder how the dynamic come season beginning changes if at all. This whole thing may be moot come September. Not saying it will but the last year he moved along slow and these last couple months have swung significantly in a different direction. So at least I remain hopeful that the politics are gone and this continues to progress positively. 
 

they won’t cut Cole until they absolutely have to. Cap hit will probably play into it as well. 

[Southern_Bills]

1 minute ago, JoPoy88 said:

all false analogies. Comparing longstanding, habitual unhealthy behaviors to an acute, worldwide, communicable health crisis? Yeah you do not know what you’re doing.

 

I shouldn't, but I will. 

 

So a vaccination that has proven to be ineffective (people still getting the virus after vaccination) and still only approved for emergency use by the FDA is so great you are an idiot if you don't take it?

 

The vaccine is not the right choice for everyone, it is his choice. It is also the NFLs choice not to let him play. He is obviously prepared for the consequences so what's the big deal?

[GoBills808]

2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The assertion was that we’re grifters on the healthcare system for not getting vaccinated against COVID.  
 

That’s such a ridiculous assertion.  Especially when so many of us who aren’t, are young and take care of ourselves. i.e. professional athletes. 

You are. Own it. Be proud.

[SCBills]

1 minute ago, SDS said:

but his family is in medicine. 🙄

Seems I hit a nerve... I’m pretty sure if I met half of you vaccination lecturers in person, one of us would look like we are doing our part to do what we can to not drain the healthcare system... and the other would have a “I got vaccinated” sticker. 

[Ralonzo]

Using the word “science” as an appeal to authority ought to be automatically disqualifying to any argument.

 

 

 

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

I shouldn't, but I will. 

 

So a vaccination that has proven to be ineffective (people still getting the virus after vaccination) and still only approved for emergency use by the FDA is so great you are an idiot if you don't take it?

 

The vaccine is not the right choice for everyone, it is his choice. It is also the NFLs choice not to let him play. He is obviously prepared for the consequences so what's the big deal?

You are pulling statistics. If you want statistics, the vaccines that the FDA has approved our proving to be over 85% effective. There are cases where people have been shown to be positive after receiving the vaccine, but have not had any ill affects. Just because you have a vaccine does not mean you are not a carrier. It just means that your bodies immune system has been strengthened against the virus.

[Rocky Landing]

4 minutes ago, SCBills said:

The assertion was that we’re grifters on the healthcare system for not getting vaccinated against COVID.  
 

That’s such a ridiculous assertion.  Especially when so many of us who aren’t, are young and take care of ourselves. i.e. professional athletes. 

And yet, the people screaming the loudest about "getting back to normal" are the ones not willing to take the simplest step to get us there.

 

You are the problem.

[balln]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

I shouldn't, but I will. 

 

So a vaccination that has proven to be ineffective (people still getting the virus after vaccination) and still only approved for emergency use by the FDA is so great you are an idiot if you don't take it?

 

The vaccine is not the right choice for everyone, it is his choice. It is also the NFLs choice not to let him play. He is obviously prepared for the consequences so what's the big deal?

uhhhh what. ineffective? no way bro. by any metric. you dont know what emergency use FDA approval means ( you assume its bad). and then also people may "get" the virus but they arent dying or getting seriously ill. also the trials and current data show its not 100% but pretty darn close. 

[SDS]

4 minutes ago, Fred Slacks said:

Someone else misspoke by saying the majority of Americans are vaccinated. Maybe the majority of players are. But Americans aren’t getting vaccinated.

This is incorrect, unless you are including people who aren’t eligible to get vaccinated.

 

 

[JoPoy88]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

I shouldn't, but I will. 

 

So a vaccination that has proven to be ineffective (people still getting the virus after vaccination) and still only approved for emergency use by the FDA is so great you are an idiot if you don't take it?

 

The vaccine is not the right choice for everyone, it is his choice. It is also the NFLs choice not to let him play. He is obviously prepared for the consequences so what's the big deal?

no vaccine is 100% effective. And if he (or anyone) has legitimate reasons for getting a vaccine being “not the right choice for them” I’d love to hear them. Because many of the reasons people cite for not getting it are based in pure, malevolent fantasy.

[Southern_Bills]

Just now, MiltonWaddams said:

You are pulling statistics. If you want statistics, the vaccines that the FDA has approved our proving to be over 85% effective. There are cases where people have been shown to be positive after receiving the vaccine, but have not had any ill affects. Just because you have a vaccine does not mean you are not a carrier. It just means that your bodies immune system has been strengthened against the virus.

 

Did not state stats, simply people get it after being vaccinated. 99% survival rate and a boatload of unknown longterm effects potentially. 

 

Yeah I can see why people are willing to play the odds.

[Ralonzo]

1 minute ago, balln said:

you dont know what emergency use FDA approval means ( you assume its bad). and then also people may "get" the virus but they arent dying or getting seriously ill. also the trials and current data show its not 100% but pretty darn close. 

do you know the prerequisites for consideration for emergency use approval?

[CincyBillsFan]

15 minutes ago, SDS said:

I’ve been reading and keeping my comments to myself. But if I was to say something this was going to be my comment.
 

Quite frankly, the people who refuse to get vaccinated are simply grifters. They grift on the doctors and nurses and scientists and immunologists and mathematicians and all the vaccinated people in the general public who got out of the wagon and are pulling us out of this mess. They don’t care if they get sick and get hospitalized because somebody else will be there to take care of them, the caregivers who are required to be vaccinated, so they can perform the simple act of breathing.

 

Somewhere Jenny McCarthy is smiling. 

What if they already have had covid?  Their acquired immunity is every bit as potent as what they would get from the vaccines.

 

And most people in Beasley's age group, under 35 won't get sick from covid.  I think that number is over 98%.

 

The solution is simple.  Test Beasley on a regular basis.  If he doesn't catch the covid what's the issue?

 

I'm over 60 so I chose to get the covid vaccine.  When I turn 65 I'll get the shingles vaccine but right now the risk/benefit ratio for shingles in the under 65 crowd says don't get the vaccine yet.

 

It's a personal choice.  Every adult has the option to protect themselves by getting vaccinated.  What Beasley does or doesn't do won't impact those that get the vaccine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

Did not state stats, simply people get it after being vaccinated. 99% survival rate and a boatload of unknown longterm effects potentially. 

 

Yeah I can see why people are willing to play the odds.

If there was a lottery where 99.9999999999% of the people playing won the lottery and that missing decimal point got sick for a period, how many people would play that lottery?

[Southern_Bills]

2 minutes ago, balln said:

uhhhh what. ineffective? no way bro. by any metric. you dont know what emergency use FDA approval means ( you assume its bad). and then also people may "get" the virus but they arent dying or getting seriously ill. also the trials and current data show its not 100% but pretty darn close. 

 

So you are ok with unknown side effects and potential long term damage it may or may not do?

 

Good for you, I'm not and I won't fault anyone else who isnt.

[balln]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

Did not state stats, simply people get it after being vaccinated. 99% survival rate and a boatload of unknown longterm effects potentially. 

 

Yeah I can see why people are willing to play the odds.

ppl the vaccine is a protein. its not some ortho kill weed killer. the flu vaccine does not cause you to get parkinsons or your arms to violently fall off 40 years later.....

 

you havent seen a significant number of people that have caught covid and then "survived"... have long term and chronic problems following it covid. basically like having lupus.

[Rocky Landing]

Just now, SCBills said:

We’re completely back to normal down south.  Don’t blame me for your local government. 

You're obviously not following the current health stats. The Southern states are, indeed, the ones experiencing spikes, especially in regards to the latest delta variant.

 

Lost in this discussion also is the fact that as much as 10% of people who get Covid will experience long-term health effects, including lung damage-- and there is no correlation in these cases to pre-existing health. Cole beasley-- or the person he spreads the variant to-- could easily acquire these health issues, regardless of how healthy their lifestyle is.

[JoPoy88]

7 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

huh? .....78% of hospitalized Covid patients were overweight/obese. You don't see that as a contributing factor why someone who is healthy . young and in great shape might think twice about getting a vaccine that has not been been fully authorized yet, and is very likely a reason why young males are experiencing  myocarditis  at enhanced rates?

 

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/78-of-covid-19-patients-hospitalized-in-the-us-overweight-or-obese-cdc-finds.html

But the infection itself is the acute problem was my point. Underlying conditions like obesity can complicate all sorts or diseases yes.

[Southern_Bills]

1 minute ago, MiltonWaddams said:

If there was a lottery where 99.9999999999% of the people playing won the lottery and that missing decimal point got sick for a period, how many people would play that lottery?

 

You got that backwards, 99% survival rate. 1 % death, And you are willing to take an experimental drug to protect you from a 1% chance and your not in a high risk category?

 

You gamble more than me.

 

2 minutes ago, balln said:

ppl the vaccine is a protein. its not some ortho kill weed killer. the flu vaccine does not cause you to get parkinsons or your arms to violently fall off 40 years later.....

 

you havent seen a significant number of people that have caught covid and then "survived"... have long term and chronic problems following it covid. basically like having lupus.

 

It's only been here for 6 months how do you know what happens in 3 years?

[SirAndrew]

I see this topic has finally gone off the rails. All the amateur experts are back out in full force.

Edited June 19, 2021 by SirAndrew

[SCBills]

Just now, Rocky Landing said:

You're obviously not following the current health stats. The Southern states are, indeed, the ones experiencing spikes, especially in regards to the latest delta variant.

 

Lost in this discussion also is the fact that as much as 10% of people who get Covid will experience long-term health effects, including lung damage-- and there is no correlation in these cases to pre-existing health. Cole beasley-- or the person he spreads the variant to-- could easily acquire these health issues, regardless of how healthy their lifestyle is.

Oh.. the current health stats, and variants... oh my.  I’m in Atlanta.  We’ve heard, literally, for the past year about the “impending doom” from people who don’t live here. 
 

Yet here we are... pretty much wide open.  And people have just lived their lives since last Fall.  
 

 

[Rocky Landing]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

You got that backwards, 99% survival rate. 1 % death, And you are willing to take an experimental drug to protect you from a 1% chance and your not in a high risk category?

 

You gamble more than me.

 

If you have such a minimal level of education on a topic, you really shouldn't be cluttering up the thread with meaningless comments.

[BADOLBILZ]

15 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

Just go back to normal.  If you want to be vaxxed, do it.  If not, don’t.  What the literal **** is the problem?

 

 

 

 

 

The literal ***** problem is that there wasn't going to be a normal in 2021......and maybe much longer......without people getting vaccinated.

 

There are worse things than Beasley retiring and the Bills getting their money back.    This year is probably it for him in Buffalo anyway.    

 

 

[balln]

1 minute ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

You got that backwards, 99% survival rate. 1 % death, And you are willing to take an experimental drug to protect you from a 1% chance and your not in a high risk category?

 

You gamble more than me.

 

 

It's only been here for 6 months how do you know what happens in 3 years?

you dont. but its based on decades of vaccination history and data and science. but thats what emergency use means. when faced with a global health problem. your ignoring survival and long covid / lupus like symptoms that are chronic.

 

https://www.fda.gov/emergency-preparedness-and-response/mcm-legal-regulatory-and-policy-framework/emergency-use-authorization

[MiltonWaddams]

Just now, Southern_Bills said:

 

You got that backwards, 99% survival rate. 1 % death, And you are willing to take an experimental drug to protect you from a 1% chance and your not in a high risk category?

 

You gamble more than me.

 

I’m willing to take a vaccination so that the rest of the world can get back to normal. I’m willing to take a vaccination so that I can go and continue to travel and enjoy the lifestyle I did pre-Covid. I’m also willing to take a vaccination that every doctor that I know has gone ahead and taken themselves so that they can protect other people. So, one percent of people die from Covid but .000000001% of people who have taken the vaccination have received any ill effects. I still see the win on the side of the vaccinated

[Hapless Bills Fan]

37 minutes ago, Governor said:

He might be broken anyway. Probably a good time to cut bait if he continues to be an ignoramus. He can then move to Florida and be free.

 

I think Beas has a substantial ranch property in Texas.

 

When I'm not busy imputing the best motives and genuine beliefs and convictions to players, I did have this observation that Beasley was helmetless and not participating in team drills most of OTAs and we didn't hear about him being open and making catches for Josh when the defense was "winning the day".  Then I had this sneaky little devil thought, "what if Bease really damaged himself playing on that broken leg last season and is struggling, and decided to kind of ride off in a Blaze of Glory as a Martyr to NFL/NFLPA Covid Policy instead of announcing that he was retiring because he could no longer play at the level he wanted?"

[JoPoy88]

2 minutes ago, Southern_Bills said:

 

You got that backwards, 99% survival rate. 1 % death, And you are willing to take an experimental drug to protect you from a 1% chance and your not in a high risk category?

 

You gamble more than me.

 

 

It's only been here for 6 months how do you know what happens in 3 years?

If you had Covid 6 months ago and recovered, do YOU know what might happen to you in 3 years?

[CincyBillsFan]

2 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said:

You're obviously not following the current health stats. The Southern states are, indeed, the ones experiencing spikes, especially in regards to the latest delta variant.

 

 

Looking at the data for each state I'm not seeing any spikes in the Southern States.  There were spikes in several northern states (Michigan & PA for example) with tough lock downs in place in April but so far in June everyone is seeing covid cases and deaths fall or stay steady at very low levels.

 

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

[QCity]

1 minute ago, Rocky Landing said:

If you have such a minimal level of education on a topic, you really shouldn't be cluttering up the thread with meaningless comments.

 

But people aren't dropping dead in the streets of southern Alabama. So what's the problem?

[SCBills]

2 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

 

The literal ***** problem is that there wasn't going to be a normal in 2021......and maybe much longer......without people getting vaccinated.

 

There are worse things than Beasley retiring and the Bills getting their money back.    This year is probably it for him in Buffalo anyway.    

 

 

Again.. talk to your local government.  I don’t run your state, town or city.  
 

We’ve been open down south for a while. 

[MiltonWaddams]

2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I think Beas has a substantial ranch property in Texas.

 

When I'm not busy imputing the best motives and genuine beliefs and convictions to players, I did have this observation that Beasley was helmetless and not participating in team drills most of OTAs and we didn't hear about him being open and making catches for Josh when the defense was "winning the day".  Then I had this sneaky little devil thought, "what if Bease really damaged himself playing on that broken leg last season and is struggling, and decided to kind of ride off in a Blaze of Glory as a Martyr to NFL/NFLPA Covid Policy instead of announcing that he was retiring because he could no longer play at the level he wanted?"

I actually hope it’s not the case and that he continues to be a Bill for at least next season. He was excellent last year. A huge difference maker in the slot. His personal opinions don’t cloud my view on how important he can be to the offence in 2021