YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Among other FO promotions Edited May 18, 2021 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Edited May 18, 2021 by DJB 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 And the hire of a female scout 4. Andrea Gosper joins the personnel department on a full-time basis The Bills discovered Andrea Gosper thanks to the NFL's Women's Careers in Football Forum. For the last two seasons, Gosper has been a scouting intern for Buffalo. Now, she'll transition into a full-time role. By being promoted to player personnel coordinator, Beane said her new job responsibilities will consist of about 75 percent college scouting, 25 percent pro scouting and administrative work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Next man up just like on the field! Like that Beane promotes from within and will continue to develop more front office talent. We'll likely lose a lot more of these guys in the coming years if we continue to be a contender and we'll need the depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
First Round Bust Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 safe to say the Pegula's got this one right, beyond the football-talent analysis and decisions beano and McD have excellent human resources/talent recognition and developmental skills...lets get some of this mojo going over in the hockey side for crying-effing-out loud... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 It’s interesting to see the Bills invest in their scouting department, I was reading yesterday about firings in that area around the league due to cost savings 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 The Bills promote from within and build culture. The Sabres fire with reckless abandon and destroy culture. Both are Pegula teams. The difference is Beane really knows what he is doing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: It’s interesting to see the Bills invest in their scouting department, I was reading yesterday about firings in that area around the league due to cost savings Does anyone on the Bills staff have a connection to Tom McConnaughey? Id love to see him part of the staff here in Buffalo. Can't have enough good FO staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: The Bills promote from within and build culture. The Sabres fire with reckless abandon and destroy culture. Both are Pegula teams. The difference is Beane really knows what he is doing. You have to put the right people in charge. It all started with the McDermott hire, then everything fell into place. Sabres will get there sometime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 A lot of folks a few years ago were saying Overdorf needed to go for the Bills to be winners again. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) Notice who didn't get a promotion? Brian Gaine. He was Beane's top guy but left for Houston then came back. I'm happy for Boyd and Gray. I think they did it like this because Boyd is likely getting a GM job next year. Edited May 18, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Back2Buff Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Notice who didn't get a promotion? Brian Gaine. He was Beane's top guy but left for Houston then came back. I'm happy for Boyd and Gray. I think they did it like this because Boyd is likely getting a GM job next year. Think it has more to do with Gaine still collecting from Houston and not wanting to move his family back to Buffalo again. We will see when his kids get older what he eventually does, but right now he has a nice gig. Edited May 18, 2021 by Back2Buff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 28 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: A lot of folks a few years ago were saying Overdorf needed to go for the Bills to be winners again. Yep. Funny thing is he's actually really good with the cap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 36 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: A lot of folks a few years ago were saying Overdorf needed to go for the Bills to be winners again. You know how it goes, when you lose you start looking at all the people that have been there the longest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Caveman Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 49 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: The Bills promote from within and build culture. The Sabres fire with reckless abandon and destroy culture. Both are Pegula teams. The difference is Beane really knows what he is doing. Not sure that's entirely the difference - The Bills are winning, and in a non-pandemic year profitable. The Sabres have been losing / unprofitable since the Pegulas took the team over. At a certain point they made the decision to cut costs. Kevyn Adams might really know what he's doing, but it might be hard to tell with the constraints he's facing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 55 minutes ago, Bob in STL said: The Bills promote from within and build culture. The Sabres fire with reckless abandon and destroy culture. Both are Pegula teams. The difference is Beane really knows what he is doing. I'm pretty sure Beane has nothing to do with front office hiring. I could be wrong 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 4 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm pretty sure Beane has nothing to do with front office hiring. I could be wrong He has everything to do with it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 12 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm pretty sure Beane has nothing to do with front office hiring. I could be wrong He runs the front office so he does the hiring. Pegulas sign the checks of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 58 minutes ago, Not at the table Karlos said: Yep. Funny thing is he's actually really good with the cap Ralph was cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I really thought Dunkirk Don was going to be tapped for the position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Skipped over again, I hate this.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, HOUSE said: Skipped over again, I hate this.... Are you Dunkirk Don? You got passed over again??? Will the real Dunkirk Don please stand up? Or maybe perhaps sit down??? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MiltonWaddams Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 11 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: I really thought Dunkirk Don was going to be tapped for the position. When they further researched his lengthy résumé, they found that he had extremely limited experience in non-fictional high-level business meetings. Of course, as someone in charge of personnel, he would need to have verified experience in such meetings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 47 minutes ago, CNYfan said: Ralph was cheap Ralph was not cheap, he was thrifty. When he paid for Bruce Smith's and Jim Kelly's contracts they were highest in league. When he brought in Donahoe to be GM and President including attend all meetings, which was something John Butler was not willing to do, he was paid very well. He was brought up in era without governments printing money when they wanted to spend more or give tax cuts to favored groups. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 24 minutes ago, Limeaid said: Ralph was not cheap, he was thrifty. When he paid for Bruce Smith's and Jim Kelly's contracts they were highest in league. When he brought in Donahoe to be GM and President including attend all meetings, which was something John Butler was not willing to do, he was paid very well. He was brought up in era without governments printing money when they wanted to spend more or give tax cuts to favored groups. Ralph was cheap, and there is nothing you can do or say to change that, it is now chiseled in stone, to forever be remembered that way..., mostly Ralph fell out of touch with what the league was trending toward, that and his contact list of quality coaches pretty much hardly existed during his entire time of ownership... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm pretty sure Beane has nothing to do with front office hiring. I could be wrong When you look at their org chart, all of these people ultimately report to him or to people who report directly to him. I'm sure nobody gets hied into any front office position without Beane's concurrence. Just now, Florida Bills Fanatic said: When you look at their org chart, all of these people ultimately report to him or to people who report directly to him. I'm sure nobody gets hired into any front office position without Beane's concurrence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: mostly Ralph fell out of touch with what the league was trending toward, that and his contact list of quality coaches pretty much hardly existed during his entire time of ownership... Ralph's coach referral list/cheat sheet: Saban: Worked here previously. Rauch: Heard of him. Stephenson: Classy guy. Bullough: Assy guy. All the rest: Let Russ handle it. * 😁 Edited May 18, 2021 by Ridgewaycynic2013 😁 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm pretty sure Beane has nothing to do with front office hiring. I could be wrong I am curious why you think the GM does not hire the front office staff? If not Beane, who? 2 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Edited May 18, 2021 by Just Joshin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 3 hours ago, hondo in seattle said: A lot of folks a few years ago were saying Overdorf needed to go for the Bills to be winners again. Well, he is the last of Ralph’s trash still standing. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 minute ago, Rico said: Well, he is the last of Ralph’s trash still standing. Previous GMs were required to follow his "advice" and he was signing off on contracts. Right now Overdorf is just an advisor. Overdorf was the one who did not require "take back" clauses for contract violations for players with larger signing bonuses. Reminds me of controller at office who signed multiyear contracts without automatic TDY per diem rate adjustments and we were told to "look for coupons" when travelling and "pay out of pocket" when customer wanted us within minimum travel time of site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 54 minutes ago, Rico said: Well, he is the last of Ralph’s trash still standing. In hindsight, Overdorf evidently was not the problem..., Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 Whatever happened to that guy we brought back from the Texans no promotion for him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 39 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: In hindsight, Overdorf evidently was not the problem..., He could also be a supreme master ass-kisser….safest thing to do was toss him to the curb, but I sure won’t argue with the bottom-line results since 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Rico said: He could also be a supreme master ass-kisser….safest thing to do was toss him to the curb, but I sure won’t argue with the bottom-line results since 2017. I here ya, but he serves a function that helps the FO run well so there is that... that and he likely has a defined role as to his job responsibilities and does those things well, that also keeps him in the harmless category... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted May 18, 2021 Author Share Posted May 18, 2021 1 hour ago, John from Riverside said: Whatever happened to that guy we brought back from the Texans no promotion for him? Brian Gaine - no, nothing announced. Maybe he has something else in the hopper. He’s kind of in a made up job right now working from Houston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'm pretty sure Beane has nothing to do with front office hiring. I could be wrong Yes, you are wrong. Beane has everything to do with football operations, scouts, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Captain Caveman said: Not sure that's entirely the difference - The Bills are winning, and in a non-pandemic year profitable. The Sabres have been losing / unprofitable since the Pegulas took the team over. At a certain point they made the decision to cut costs. Kevyn Adams might really know what he's doing, but it might be hard to tell with the constraints he's facing. Profit has little to do with it. Remember Pegula said that “the Sabres reason for existence is to win Stanley Cups” and if he needs money he will “drill another well”. My how times have changed. Sabres have been losing for 10 years under the Pegula reign. They are about to set the record for most consecutive years out of playoffs in a league were over half the teams make the playoffs. In that span they have had 4 GMs and 7 coaches. The culture there is rotten. Sad but true. Adams may indeed be good, we will see. I am pulling for him. Beane and McD are the difference. No doubt about it. Edited May 18, 2021 by Bob in STL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted May 18, 2021 Share Posted May 18, 2021 I don't follow the Sabres anymore, but I think it's obvious that Pegs big mistake there was bringing Russ Brandon into the front office. The Curse of Ralph spread thru the Sabres organization... a cancer of losing, making things monumentally worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted May 19, 2021 Share Posted May 19, 2021 4 hours ago, Bob in STL said: Yes, you are wrong. Beane has everything to do with football operations, scouts, etc. Yes, this was pointed out numerous times already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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