Texans' Deshaun Watson accused of indecent conduct in civil lawsuit; QB denies wrongdoing

[TBBills]

2 hours ago, wppete said:

Damn bro you are heartless... Watson isn’t playing football ever again unless it’s in the prison yard. 

That isn't me that is just the way things are.

[Behindenemylines]

1 hour ago, CNYfan said:

I don't think Ashley is a hypocrite or more of a money chaser than the average human.  

 

I do think Deshaun will play NFL football again, but it might not be this year.   Not sure of the "prison yard" thing yet.

 

Definitely a weird kink in that man's hose though.

I can’t see him playing again.  Too many women coming forward and there will be too much coming out in the near future for a team to voluntarily associate with him.  Maybe it’s all true maybe none is true but we can all assume it’s at least partially true.  And partially true is creepy enough
 

 

[Rigotz]

4 hours ago, Behindenemylines said:

I can’t see him playing again.  Too many women coming forward and there will be too much coming out in the near future for a team to voluntarily associate with him.  Maybe it’s all true maybe none is true but we can all assume it’s at least partially true.  And partially true is creepy enough
 

 

It’s amazing what the NFL is willing to overlook. Antonio brown was accused of worse and seems to have awful character issues, but he’s still allowed to win Super Bowls with his best friend Tom.

[Chandler#81]

On 4/5/2021 at 8:45 PM, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Maybe I've been missing some stuff that came out, or maybe I'm less logical than I think I am, but I'd still reserve judgement on whether he's hosed until all the facts/evidence come out.  I mean, I've seen cases that I thought were pretty slam-dunk get systematically unraveled in court.  Of course these were criminal cases so 🤷‍♂️

 

I'm not defending Watson as innocent or suggesting a conspiracy or anything, just that it wouldn't surprise me

Nah, GUILTY!

PREPARE THE GALLOWS!

 

[Boxcar]

7 hours ago, wppete said:

Damn bro you are heartless... Watson isn’t playing football ever again unless it’s in the prison yard. 

Allegations need to be proven. Until that happens, everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 

I don't know why people still make judgments based on one side of the story. Why can't everyone just shut up and let the process play out? You know, the one between the two parties who have any idea what really happened?

[Boxcar]

1 hour ago, Rigotz said:

It’s amazing what the NFL is willing to overlook. Antonio brown was accused of worse and seems to have awful character issues, but he’s still allowed to win Super Bowls with his best friend Tom.

Not just NFL. Domingo German and Roberto Osuna committed some pretty serious domestic assault. Osuna played again that same season (albeit after being traded) and German is playing now...he isn't even very good, so there isn't even an angle to ignore the crime because of talent.

 

Probably the same in the NHL given the number of meathead goons, but I pay zero attention.

[TBBills]

9 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

Allegations need to be proven. Until that happens, everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 

I don't know why people still make judgments based on one side of the story. Why can't everyone just shut up and let the process play out? You know, the one between the two parties who have any idea what really happened?

B.c it doesn't matter and this is what entertainment is in the world. Stop getting so angry about it.

 

Oj Simpson "Let the process play out"

 

I still think he killed her.

Edited April 7, 2021 by TBBills

[Jauronimo]

8 hours ago, TBBills said:

So if Ashley gets some money from this and Watson is able to continue his career she will be a hypocrite for this and a money chaser.

Accepting any court awarded damages makes someone a money chaser?  To clarify, if Watson were to ***** on you would you be suing for bragging rights?

[TBBills]

24 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Accepting any court awarded damages makes someone a money chaser?  To clarify, if Watson were to ***** on you would you be suing for bragging rights?

 I am just saying exactly what will happen. This is what happens when you make this a twitter case. See how even the smallest negative response got so much reaction so quickly. That is all that matters anymore.

 

The other twitter lawyer already said they were looking for money even before the legal battle. If you are going to play Twitter Court game you can't be getting angry at the things that happen.

Edited April 7, 2021 by TBBills

[GunnerBill]

1 hour ago, TBBills said:

B.c it doesn't matter and this is what entertainment is in the world. Stop getting so angry about it.

 

Oj Simpson "Let the process play out"

 

I still think he killed her.

 

And you can think OJ killed her. But the law is the law even when the law is an ass. Beyond reasonable doubt is the criminal standard for good reason and it is a very high bar. 

[TBBills]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

And you can think OJ killed her. But the law is the law even when the law is an ass. Beyond reasonable doubt is the criminal standard for good reason and it is a very high bar. 

Yea but none of that matters in Twitter Court which is the game we are all playing.

[wppete]

6 hours ago, Boxcar said:

Allegations need to be proven. Until that happens, everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 

I don't know why people still make judgments based on one side of the story. Why can't everyone just shut up and let the process play out? You know, the one between the two parties who have any idea what really happened?

You mean 24 sides of one story. 

[Royale with Cheese]

So Watson likes a finger in his ***.  Ewww.

[Boxcar]

4 minutes ago, wppete said:

You mean 24 sides of one story. 

Oh ok, so the more people, the less you need to hear out Watson. Sounds like you're a big fan of the Western judicial system.

 

Buzbee should just recruit a hundred women, then there would just be no need for due process at all.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

7 hours ago, Boxcar said:

Allegations need to be proven. Until that happens, everyone deserves the benefit of the doubt.

 

I don't know why people still make judgments based on one side of the story. Why can't everyone just shut up and let the process play out? You know, the one between the two parties who have any idea what really happened?

 

I agree with Boxcar. 

 

Wait, What the Hell Just Happened?

[TBBills]

42 minutes ago, Boxcar said:

Oh ok, so the more people, the less you need to hear out Watson. Sounds like you're a big fan of the Western judicial system.

 

Buzbee should just recruit a hundred women, then there would just be no need for due process at all.

Well Watson probably went to over 100+ women so it might happen.

[stinky finger]

8 hours ago, Rigotz said:

It’s amazing what the NFL is willing to overlook. Antonio brown was accused of worse and seems to have awful character issues, but he’s still allowed to win Super Bowls with his best friend Tom.

 

Agree

 

If they really want to punish him, send him to Motown.

[Mr. K]

Allen Iverson threw his wife out of the house naked and kept playing... I guess thats not as bad as knocking out your fiance on an elevator or fighting dogs. These are only allegations so until some hard proof comes out I bet Watson plays next year. Its kind of like suspensions in hockey. All about the $$$$$

[Royale with Cheese]

14 minutes ago, Mr. K said:

Allen Iverson threw his wife out of the house naked and kept playing... I guess thats not as bad as knocking out your fiance on an elevator or fighting dogs. These are only allegations so until some hard proof comes out I bet Watson plays next year. Its kind of like suspensions in hockey. All about the $$$$$

 

He's more than likely going on the Commissioners Exempt.

[YoloinOhio]

 

[H2o]

7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

This is just the beginning. It's all about to come tumbling down. 

[Royale with Cheese]

This could be the biggest fall from grace from any athlete in my lifetime.  These are just allegations so he is innocent now but it's not looking good.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

This could be the biggest fall from grace from any athlete in my lifetime.  These are just allegations so he is innocent now but it's not looking good.

Kobe went through something much worse. Just not in the social media age. 

[wppete]

Nike suspends sponsorship of Deshaun Watson amid sexual assault allegations

 

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/31208850/nike-suspends-sponsorship-deshaun-watson-amid-sexual-assault-allegations

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Kobe went through something much worse. Just not in the social media age. 

 

I believe Bryant had one accuser and she dropped the charges?  Watson has 22 women...this is Bill Cosby territory.

[Doc]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

So Watson likes a finger in his ***.  Ewww.

 

Bob Kraft says "hold my beer."

 

15 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

 

 

The first, ahem, shoe to drop.

[Captain Hindsight]

Has any of his teammates come out to defend him? Former teammates? I havent seen anything like that.

 

That to me is very telling. I realize there is an investigation and players may want to keep their names out of it, but I remember when Kellen Winslow was arrested and ultimately convicted, former teammates told stories of how they hated being Winslow's roommate on trips because he would ***** in the rooms and was like well known to have a sex addiction 

[wppete]

7 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

This could be the biggest fall from grace from any athlete in my lifetime.  These are just allegations so he is innocent now but it's not looking good.

Sponsorship gone, he will pay millions to his 24+ victims. His lawyers will drain his bank account and I’m sure the Texans will go after his signing bonus. End up in prison and broke.... Pretty sad, what a call from grace. 

[YoloinOhio]

3 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Has any of his teammates come out to defend him? Former teammates? I havent seen anything like that.

 

That to me is very telling. I realize there is an investigation and players may want to keep their names out of it, but I remember when Kellen Winslow was arrested and ultimately convicted, former teammates told stories of how they hated being Winslow's roommate on trips because he would ***** in the rooms and was like well known to have a sex addiction 

Only his personal QB coach and Dhop that I’ve seen. 

Edited April 7, 2021 by YoloinOhio

[Buffalo_Stampede]

5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I believe Bryant had one accuser and she dropped the charges?  Watson has 22 women...this is Bill Cosby territory.

Bryant was criminally charged with rape and went to court. The court case was covered daily similar to the OJ case. 

 

He settled. He then rebounded pretty well. So that is an example of fall from grace and coming back from it. 

Edited April 7, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Royale with Cheese]

Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Bryant was criminally charged with rape and went to court. The court case was covered daily similar to the OJ case. 

 

He settled. 

 

He did, charges dropped and done.  22, just the number is really bad.  Watson's career in jeopardy.

Bryant was tarnished for a bit but then came back up and became loved again.  It isn't looking good for Watson but this hasn't played all the way out yet.

[mannc]

17 minutes ago, H2o said:

This is just the beginning. It's all about to come tumbling down. 

I'm starting to think this guy's career is over.  If there were some sort of exculpating evidence or any kind of innocent explanation for what's happening, we would have heard it by now.  Whatever happens to him from a legal perspective, it's pretty obvious that Watson is a deviant MFer.  I can't see any NFL team wanting anything to do with him. 

[Doc]

9 minutes ago, wppete said:

Sponsorship gone, he will pay millions to his 24+ victims. His lawyers will drain his bank account and I’m sure the Texans will go after his signing bonus. End up in prison and broke.... Pretty sad, what a call from grace. 

 

Even thought it is the Texans, I would be shocked if they didn't put in a morality clause in his contract allowing them recoup a good chunk of their money.  

[Buffalo_Stampede]

11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

He did, charges dropped and done.  22, just the number is really bad.  Watson's career in jeopardy.

Bryant was tarnished for a bit but then came back up and became loved again.  It isn't looking good for Watson but this hasn't played all the way out yet.

Yes it was done because he settled out of court. Watson will also. Watson's problem is the public already sentenced him to banishment. 20 years ago Watson likely escapes. Roethlisberger also. The growth of social media the last 10 years has changed so much. 

 

Take the Ray Rice incident. Greg Hardy had an incident that was going away. But once the Ray Rice incident became viral on social media Greg Hardy's incident came back in the light. Hardy's career over. 

Edited April 7, 2021 by Buffalo_Stampede

[mannc]

18 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

I believe Bryant had one accuser and she dropped the charges?  Watson has 22 women...this is Bill Cosby territory.

Exactly.  It was easy for fans and teammates to believe Kobe over his one accuser...this is completely different.  It's looking like we are talking about a serial sex offender... 

[Boxcar]

18 minutes ago, Captain Hindsight said:

Has any of his teammates come out to defend him? Former teammates? I havent seen anything like that.

 

That to me is very telling. I realize there is an investigation and players may want to keep their names out of it, but I remember when Kellen Winslow was arrested and ultimately convicted, former teammates told stories of how they hated being Winslow's roommate on trips because he would ***** in the rooms and was like well known to have a sex addiction 

I don't think it's telling at all. First, his teammates probably have no idea what actually happened, and second, sticking your neck out for him could cost them something too, as the Twitter mob would set their sights on that player.

[Rico]

29 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

This could be the biggest fall from grace from any athlete in my lifetime.  These are just allegations so he is innocent now but it's not looking good.

OJ is still the king, America loved him. I would bet a whole lot of people never heard of Watson.

[Numark3]

People always say wait for the legal process to play out, but that isn’t always the reasonable standard.  Did anyone need to let the legal process play out to know ray rice did something wrong and illegal?  No, because we saw the evidence.

 

in other words, we were made aware of facts before the legal process played out and that was enough.

 

20+ accusations isn’t evidence or a fact we can look at like a video.  But it’s damning enough circumstances that judging him is more than reasonable.  

[Royale with Cheese]

9 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

Yes it was done because he settled out of court. Watson will also. Watson's problem is the public already sentenced him to banishment. 20 years ago Watson likely escapes. Roethlisberger also. The growth of social media the last 10 years has changed so much. 

 

Take the Ray Rice incident. Greg Hardy had an incident that was going away. But once the Ray Rice incident became viral on social media Greg Hardy's incident came back in the light. Hardy's career over. 

 

Yeah, I do agree that social media is adding to the flame but 22 is the biggest reason.  It makes him look like a serial sexual predator like Cosby. 

For him to have that many suits against him, the public is going to have a hard time forgiving him IMO.

[H2o]

9 minutes ago, mannc said:

I'm starting to think this guy's career is over.  If there were some sort of exculpating evidence or any kind of innocent explanation for what's happening, we would have heard it by now.  Whatever happens to him from a legal perspective, it's pretty obvious that Watson is a deviant MFer.  I can't see any NFL team wanting anything to do with him. 

I've been saying this for weeks, that his career may be over. If not I see a 2 to 3 year disruption while things play out. The whole situation and the circumstances in itself is not only strange, but disturbing to say the least. I can't see anyone wanting him to be the face of their franchise and choose to deal with the surrounding circus unless he is somehow fully exonerated, which seems HIGHLY unlikely.