billsfan89 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Is there any reason why the Browns are looking to trade him? Is he asking for more playing time? Is it a cap thing? Because if this is a playing time issue unless they are trading Singletary for him he isn't likely to get much more playing time with the Bills and thus won't be happy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted March 15, 2021 Author Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, billsfan89 said: Is there any reason why the Browns are looking to trade him? Is he asking for more playing time? Is it a cap thing? Because if this is a playing time issue unless they are trading Singletary for him he isn't likely to get much more playing time with the Bills and thus won't be happy here. Probably about to give Chubb a big contract and allocation of resources says paying two RBs is no bueno. They would be wise to draft one to play behind Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: He paid his dues. Was suspended for 6-8 games. These are young guys. Things sometimes get out of hand a bit when young people are partying. Not condoning what he did. But Joe Mixon got a second chance after knocking out the gal at Oklahoma. If he keeps his nose clean, and continues to behave, he would be a great pick up for us. Its pro football. Its not tea w the Royal Family. Lets not forget that. Yeah, sometimes things get out of hand when you're young, and next thing you know you're kicking a woman in the face in a hotel lobby. Happens to all of us... No thanks. Agree that you can find the same with far less baggage. Would rather have Kenyan Drake. Edited March 15, 2021 by Nelius 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 22 minutes ago, Gugny said: Kim Pegula being on board with bringing on a woman abuser doesn't make any sense to me at all. I mean, at what point do you say the guy served his suspension & moved on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 14 minutes ago, Paup 1995MVP said: He paid his dues. Was suspended for 6-8 games. These are young guys. Things sometimes get out of hand a bit when young people are partying. Not condoning what he did. But Joe Mixon got a second chance after knocking out the gal at Oklahoma. If he keeps his nose clean, and continues to behave, he would be a great pick up for us. Its pro football. Its not tea w the Royal Family. Lets not forget that. Yeah, I can see where you’re coming from. Think we all make mistakes, but how long must we hang this over his head for? At what point is the debt repaid, especially if his past behavior has been remediated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 11 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I have a feeling he will end up in Miami I'm shocked the Jets aren't interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: Yeah, sometimes things get out of hand when you're young, and next thing you know you're kicking a woman in the face in a hotel lobby. Happens to all of us... No thanks. Agree that you can find the same with far less baggage. Then again, what you just said isn’t the way it happened either...so there’s that too. Again, people need to reread the facts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: Yeah, sometimes things get out of hand when you're young, and next thing you know you're kicking a woman in the face in a hotel lobby. Happens to all of us... No thanks. Agree that you can find the same with far less baggage. That's a dramatic recap of what's on tape. Any kind of violence towards women is unacceptable, of course. But his action was not exactly as you're describing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, at what point do you say the guy served his suspension & moved on? I think a lot of teams likely have already done that. Kim Pegula being the owner is what makes me think this wouldn't happen. It's much more (to me) about a female owner than it is about a guy who's served his suspension. I'm not saying he shouldn't be in the NFL; I'm not even saying he shouldn't be a Bill someday. I'm just saying I'd be surprised if Kim Pegula signed off on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Off the field stuff is going be judged how it will by those with the facts. But his talent as compared to what is present there now is undeniable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 3 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, at what point do you say the guy served his suspension & moved on? Lotta historical family context with Hunt, by the way: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/chiefs/2018/12/14/ex-chiefs-star-kareem-hunt-family-criminal-history/2289525002/. His family's catalog of criminal episodes is ... impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 I dunno about the people here acting like I'm supposed to want to forgive this guy for kicking a woman. Plenty of us have been out drinking and not proceeded to punt a lady, we're not talking about some common occurence here and some of you are acting like we're mad at him for peeing in the bushes. I don't want him on my team, ever. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 years left for $11.25M is, IMO a very fair and tradeable contract..... Bills don't have a 4th rounder and not sure I'd want to part with a 3rd for him, but I don't think a 5th is enough. Maybe a pick swap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: Then again, what you just said isn’t the way it happened either...so there’s that too. Again, people need to reread the facts. Yeah he didn't kick her in the head that's just not what happened. The most violent thing he did was pushing a guy who then knocked her over. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaggersEOD Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 The guy is an absolute beast. He brings an intensity to his game that we don’t have in the RB room right now. As for his past indiscretions and despicable behavior...I don’t know him so I can’t defend him. I will only say that when I watched the video after hearing the reports, I was expecting a Ray Rice type altercation, and it ended up being much “less” (but still despicable). More along the lines of a bad decision in one of those crazy situations only encountered by the rich/famous. The female wasn’t a family member/girlfriend or something like that to make it a domestic issue. Didn’t seem like a chronic issue just from the LIMITED info I have (and please educate me if I’m wrong as I’m not a web researcher). Just a bad ending to a party night. Lots of excuse making here for a person claiming to NOT be defending him/his actions. But I don’t think he’s an auto “No”. I also haven’t heard/seen anything bad about him since the incident. (Again please educate me if I’m missing something). Just some food for thought. If OBD decides he’s a fit, I trust their judgement and would LOVE to see him shredding Ds as a Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 5 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said: That's a dramatic recap of what's on tape. Any kind of violence towards women is unacceptable, of course. But his action was not exactly as you're describing. It really isn't though. I just watched the video before posting to make sure I wasn't speaking out of turn. He kicks in the direction of her "head and upper body" if you must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojo44 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 If Kim Pegula was not on board with this there would be no negotiations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Just now, Nelius said: It really isn't though. I just watched the video before posting to make sure I wasn't speaking out of turn. He kicks in the direction of her "head and upper body" if you must. Come on. It's not even a real kick, if you want to be more precise. It's like a feint, to be honest. He makes more contact than anyone should, but it's not traumatic force at all. Designed more to embarrass than it was to injure (by my eye). And I'm not one to be forgiving of such transgressions, I assure you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 2 minutes ago, Nelius said: It really isn't though. I just watched the video before posting to make sure I wasn't speaking out of turn. He kicks in the direction of her "head and upper body" if you must. Then he apparently has terrible aim because it looked like he hit her closer to her shin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Is ‘kicked’ that lady, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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