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Re-sign or “ Wave Good-bye” Series: Player 1 - Levi Wallace


YoloinOhio

Levi Wallace: RFA  

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  1. 1. Re-Sign or Wave Goodbye?

  2. 2. If re-sign, which tender?

    • 1st round - $4.766 mill
    • 2nd round - $3.384 mill
    • “Right of first refusal” - $2.133 mill


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4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

 

Why do you say it costs next to nothing?  The lowest RFA amount is $2.13 million and that is just the right of first refusal without draft pick compensation.  Last year he made $750K so that is a almost a 200% raise.  He was undrafted so they can't use the original round tender. The second and first round tenders are $3.2M and $4.6M respectively.  

So this decision is not as easy as it seems.

I think Levi is a good player and equal to or better than Norman.  I would tender an offer at the second round $3.2M amount.  If someone matched I'd take the second round pick and let Levi go.  I would be fine if he played 2021 on a one year deal at $3.2M

Spot on. 

 

I think he takes way more flak than he deserves.  As the Bills start paying people (which has already begun) wallace and players like him will become even more important to the sustained success of the Bills.

 

He way outperformed being a udfa and 3 million is half of what norman got this year.  No brainer imo.  If they were to get 4 years production and a 2nd rounder that's also a win.

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29 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said:

 

Why do you say it costs next to nothing?  The lowest RFA amount is $2.13 million and that is just the right of first refusal without draft pick compensation.  Last year he made $750K so that is a almost a 200% raise.  He was undrafted so they can't use the original round tender. The second and first round tenders are $3.2M and $4.6M respectively.  

So this decision is not as easy as it seems.

I think Levi is a good player and equal to or better than Norman.  I would tender an offer at the second round $3.2M amount.  If someone matched I'd take the second round pick and let Levi go.  I would be fine if he played 2021 on a one year deal at $3.2M

I said next to nothing, because relatively inexpensive. It’s not quite nothing but it’s next to it. 

Original round tender and right of first refusal tender cost you the same amount, they operate identically if the player is a UDFA. 

 

The minimum salary a player who has 3 years of service time can make is $825K. We’re going to likely pay him 150% more. If you want a similar caliber player in FA you’re paying Josh Norman money or more... it’s next to nothing in comparison to that as well. 
 

If memory serves me properly, teams don’t hand out 1st and 2nd round tenders too often and teams generally don’t pursue players with any level of tender. 
 

I believe Kareem Hunt received a 2nd round tender last year and no team gave him an offer sheet. 
 

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Looked a little deeper and my old memory was wrong, some of the better players normally get a RD2 tender. Hunt, Feiler, Hilton did last year. Nobody matched. If that’s all it takes to ensure Wallace stays for relatively cheap, I’m all for the RD2 tender. 
 

Good call. 

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Give Levi the 2nd round tender.  He's been a good to above average player who's totally out-performed his original undrafted status

 

At the very worst, he's quality depth for us in the years to come, and the kind of guy that has a really low downside to keeping around

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He’ll be back on an RFA tender or a short term extension. And that’s the right move. He’ll compete with Dane Jackson for playing time at CB2.

 

A lot of people want a big name there, I’m fine with a guy at CB2. Spend your assets elsewhere (pass rusher) and better (also pass rusher bc they paid big and got little production for the money they spent)

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He played well once he started to get some series off in favor of Norman.  I think we should upgrade him, but keep him as #3CB.   
 

They both did better splitting the job than either did playing full time.  Overall he did better than Norman (although Norman made a few real big plays).  
 

Dane will get a bigger shot next year as well.  

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3 hours ago, YoloinOhio said:

Going to list a new UFA or RFA every day or so ... Levi Wallace is a RFA in 2021. He will be 26 and has started 23 games in 2 seasons.

 

The new league year begins at 4 p.m. March 17. The deadline for restricted free agents to sign offer sheets is April 23.

 

I think you need to add options for which tender the Bills should offer him 1st round 2nd round or Original (he was an UDFA)

 

I'm leaning towards 2nd round but we don't know yet what $$ that will be.   An Original round tender should be ~$2.2M, 2nd round maybe $3.4M

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