daz28 Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, oldmanfan said: Republicans will win when and if they decide to be Republicans again. Democrats will win if they don’t overreach into overly progressive stuff. I am Independent, voted for plenty of Republicans in my life. And Democrats. You keep trying to label anyone who doesn’t fall in line with Trump as a liberal Democrat. It’s precisely that approach that dooms Republicans for the near future. They really believe that the best strategy is having Fox et al demonize Democrats, because their own policies don't measure up. For example, 83% of those surveyed who split their ticket last November between Biden and GOP candidates back the Covid bill. In the survey, 69% of respondents who split their ticket in the 2020 election between Trump and down-ballot Democratic candidates support the bill. Does that matter to any Republican in Congress?? heck no, because the bill is a win for Democrats and Americans. They'd rather America rot that do the right thing. Also, I agree the loons on both far ends are the real problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 7 hours ago, oldmanfan said: Republicans will win when and if they decide to be Republicans again. Democrats will win if they don’t overreach into overly progressive stuff. Republicans will win more elections next year. The party that wins the White House always loses seats in the mid terms. I think it has only not happened once in the last 80 years. Even Obama lost seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted February 27, 2021 Share Posted February 27, 2021 1 hour ago, reddogblitz said: Republicans will win more elections next year. The party that wins the White House always loses seats in the mid terms. I think it has only not happened once in the last 80 years. Even Obama lost seats. It depends if the Republican party runs candidates like Greene. Since apparently you will have to get Trump’s blessing and he wants nut cases like that, such candidates will only win ruby red districts. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JaCrispy Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, BillStime said: Anyone that wasn’t born yesterday knows that there is a lot more to the bill, that people disagree with, than just the stimulus money...Remember how Pelosi kept turning down a stimulus package before the election? Exactly...this tweet just seems intentionally disingenuous imo... But I guess that’s why nobody can talk to each other anymore...no one really seems to care about having a genuine conversation... Edited March 1, 2021 by JaCrispy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 49 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: Anyone that wasn’t born yesterday knows that there is a lot more to the bill, that people disagree with, than just the stimulus money...Remember how Pelosi kept turning down a stimulus package before the election? Exactly...this tweet just seems intentionally disingenuous imo... But I guess that’s why nobody can talk to each other anymore...no one really seems to care about having a genuine conversation... Bingo! The two sides of the aisle are far more interested in scoring points against each other than doing a darn thing for the American people. And stop and think about it for a second...if giving $1,400 to the people was THAT critical, wouldn’t it have been done already? I mean wouldn’t it?!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 1 hour ago, JaCrispy said: Anyone that wasn’t born yesterday knows that there is a lot more to the bill, that people disagree with, than just the stimulus money...Remember how Pelosi kept turning down a stimulus package before the election? Exactly...this tweet just seems intentionally disingenuous imo... But I guess that’s why nobody can talk to each other anymore...no one really seems to care about having a genuine conversation... I agree Ja’Crispy Vulcano. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 3 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: Bingo! The two sides of the aisle are far more interested in scoring points against each other than doing a darn thing for the American people. And stop and think about it for a second...if giving $1,400 to the people was THAT critical, wouldn’t it have been done already? I mean wouldn’t it?!! Everyone forgets way back when, when Trump said make a bill with JUST 2000$ stimulus money for Americans, and Nancy screeched in protest and batted it down. The biggest delusion is that democrat voters think that Democrat politicians give one ***** about them. And so, they wait for the diminishing return on that once $2000 stimulus now $1400.00 which will be worth even less if/when it's passed. Meanwhile...under Biden, the government can't even do tax refunds at this point. but yea, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 Just another scumbag 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 If Mike Lindell gets any crazier, he'll be the Republican nominee in 2024. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Backintheday544 Posted March 2, 2021 Share Posted March 2, 2021 (edited) On 3/1/2021 at 1:04 PM, Unforgiven said: Everyone forgets way back when, when Trump said make a bill with JUST 2000$ stimulus money for Americans, and Nancy screeched in protest and batted it down. The biggest delusion is that democrat voters think that Democrat politicians give one ***** about them. And so, they wait for the diminishing return on that once $2000 stimulus now $1400.00 which will be worth even less if/when it's passed. Meanwhile...under Biden, the government can't even do tax refunds at this point. but yea, TRUMP, TRUMP, TRUMP You make me wonder often what world you live in as your basic understanding of facts is often not from this timeline. Pelosi screeched at Trump asking for $2,000? Pelosi replied to Trumps tweet saying Let’s Do It!! Right after, the Dems drafted a bill with only the $2,000 stimulus in it and passed in the House mainly along partisan lines. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/28/house-stimulus-checks/?_gl=1*95v6mf*_ga*d1JzMzFIcEpUY2UxaWRHUjFKXzV0YUs1c0ZUV05KQW1Uc253ME00VzByZzU0RF9idlp4bnNma0N5alVUSXpGQg.. Maybe if you actually understood what happens, you may like the Dems. If you don’t believe me that is was a clean bill, you can read it yourself here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/9051/text The bill died in the Senate when Mitch wouldn’t bring it up. Edited March 2, 2021 by Backintheday544 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daz28 Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 16 minutes ago, Backintheday544 said: You make me wonder often what world you live in as your basic understanding of facts is often not from this timeline. Pelosi screeched at Trump asking for $2,000? Pelosi replied to Trumps tweet saying Let’s Do It!! Right after, the Dems drafted a bill with only the $2,000 stimulus in it and passed in the House mainly along partisan lines. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/28/house-stimulus-checks/?_gl=1*95v6mf*_ga*d1JzMzFIcEpUY2UxaWRHUjFKXzV0YUs1c0ZUV05KQW1Uc253ME00VzByZzU0RF9idlp4bnNma0N5alVUSXpGQg.. Maybe if you actually understood what happens, you may like the Dems. If you don’t believe me that is was a clean bill, you can read it yourself here: https://www.congress.gov/bill/116th-congress/house-bill/9051/text The bill died in the Senate when Mitch wouldn’t bring it up. He's sorry, but he's too proud to admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wnyguy Posted March 3, 2021 Share Posted March 3, 2021 38 minutes ago, BillStime said: Good, the guy is a deranged, hate filled, scumbag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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B-Man Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 (edited) On 2/22/2021 at 10:34 PM, Big Blitz said: The Left redefined "cages" today. Edited March 6, 2021 by B-Man 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 Like I said in the other thread... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 On 3/3/2021 at 11:23 AM, wnyguy said: Good, the guy is a deranged, hate filled, scumbag. So are the rest of the people screaming the election was stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 6, 2021 Share Posted March 6, 2021 NY Times: Democrats Have A Problem Appealing To Latino Men https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/us/politics/latino-voters-democrats.html Erik Ortiz, a 41-year-old hip-hop music producer in Florida, grew up poor in the South Bronx, and spent much of his time as a young adult trying to establish himself financially. Now he considers himself rich. And he believes shaking off the politics of his youth had something to do with it. “Everybody was a liberal Democrat — in my neighborhood, in the Bronx, in the local government,” said Mr. Ortiz, whose family is Black and from Puerto Rico. “The welfare state was bad for our people — the state became the father in the Black and brown household and that was a bad, bad mistake.” Mr. Ortiz became a Republican, drawn to messages of individual responsibility and lower taxes. To him, generations of poor people have stayed loyal to a Democratic Party that has failed to transform their lives. “Why would I want to be stuck in that mentality?” he said. I’ve written about the Democrats’ assumptions about demographic destiny before. Basically, the belief for a long time has been that once we become a “majority minority” country, Democrats will sweep ever election for perpetuity. But as Andrew Sullivan argued a couple weeks ago, that whole idea could turn out to be a fairy tale. In fact, he argues (based on a book called “The Great Demographic Illusion“) that it’s more likely Latinos will intermarry with white Americans to the point that they become one big demographic. https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/02/22/andrew-sullivan-majority-minority-myth/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 Quote Trump sends cease-and-desist letter to GOP organizations to stop fundraising off his name The letter was sent to the Republican National Committee, the National Republican Congressional Committee and the National Republican Senatorial Committee, the https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2021/03/06/trump-sends-cease-and-desist-letter-gop-organizations-stop-fundraising-off-his-name/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 20 hours ago, B-Man said: NY Times: Democrats Have A Problem Appealing To Latino Men https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/us/politics/latino-voters-democrats.html Erik Ortiz, a 41-year-old hip-hop music producer in Florida, grew up poor in the South Bronx, and spent much of his time as a young adult trying to establish himself financially. Now he considers himself rich. And he believes shaking off the politics of his youth had something to do with it. “Everybody was a liberal Democrat — in my neighborhood, in the Bronx, in the local government,” said Mr. Ortiz, whose family is Black and from Puerto Rico. “The welfare state was bad for our people — the state became the father in the Black and brown household and that was a bad, bad mistake.” Mr. Ortiz became a Republican, drawn to messages of individual responsibility and lower taxes. To him, generations of poor people have stayed loyal to a Democratic Party that has failed to transform their lives. “Why would I want to be stuck in that mentality?” he said. I’ve written about the Democrats’ assumptions about demographic destiny before. Basically, the belief for a long time has been that once we become a “majority minority” country, Democrats will sweep ever election for perpetuity. But as Andrew Sullivan argued a couple weeks ago, that whole idea could turn out to be a fairy tale. In fact, he argues (based on a book called “The Great Demographic Illusion“) that it’s more likely Latinos will intermarry with white Americans to the point that they become one big demographic. https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/02/22/andrew-sullivan-majority-minority-myth/ I though the NYT was/is fake news? I'm so confused. It's hard to tell with you what is a hoax and what is not. On the bright side, at least you didn't post some whack job cartoon today. So that's a step in the right direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 42 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I'm so confused. Finally, the truth. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiberius Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 21 hours ago, B-Man said: NY Times: Democrats Have A Problem Appealing To Latino Men https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/us/politics/latino-voters-democrats.html Erik Ortiz, a 41-year-old hip-hop music producer in Florida, grew up poor in the South Bronx, and spent much of his time as a young adult trying to establish himself financially. Now he considers himself rich. And he believes shaking off the politics of his youth had something to do with it. “Everybody was a liberal Democrat — in my neighborhood, in the Bronx, in the local government,” said Mr. Ortiz, whose family is Black and from Puerto Rico. “The welfare state was bad for our people — the state became the father in the Black and brown household and that was a bad, bad mistake.” Mr. Ortiz became a Republican, drawn to messages of individual responsibility and lower taxes. To him, generations of poor people have stayed loyal to a Democratic Party that has failed to transform their lives. “Why would I want to be stuck in that mentality?” he said. I’ve written about the Democrats’ assumptions about demographic destiny before. Basically, the belief for a long time has been that once we become a “majority minority” country, Democrats will sweep ever election for perpetuity. But as Andrew Sullivan argued a couple weeks ago, that whole idea could turn out to be a fairy tale. In fact, he argues (based on a book called “The Great Demographic Illusion“) that it’s more likely Latinos will intermarry with white Americans to the point that they become one big demographic. https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2021/02/22/andrew-sullivan-majority-minority-myth/ Wait, you mean in elections? Now you believe elections are real? What is your opinion of Trump running around calling our democratic process a fraud? Nothing? You can't bring yourself to talk about the truth? Pathetic 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted March 7, 2021 Share Posted March 7, 2021 5 hours ago, B-Man said: Finally, the truth. Hoax. I tell the truth all the time. You should try it. I think when you stop spending so much time interpreting Q and give the truth a shot you'll find it refreshing. Good luck! 4 hours ago, Tiberius said: Wait, you mean in elections? Now you believe elections are real? What is your opinion of Trump running around calling our democratic process a fraud? Nothing? You can't bring yourself to talk about the truth? Pathetic Maybe he's a fake Trumper. I don't know. It's hard to keep it straight with these guys. One day Fox News is great. The next day they're a bunch of pinkos. Then the NYT is a failing fake news symposium. Until it's not. Kinda like Rudy. And Syd Rice. And Jared. It's like the WWE. Things turn on a dime, and you just can't see the plot twist coming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 8, 2021 Share Posted March 8, 2021 ALF is finally at peace with Trump gone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Over 29 years of fanhood Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 😂 in your head, in your head 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Big Blitz Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) Hey remember this episode of "You're Being Played?" The one where Trump threatened the Georgia Election Investigation? Stunning another plot twist: News Outlets Issue Major Corrections After Botching Reports On December Phone Call Between Trump, GA Election Investigator At least two major news outlets have issued corrections following the publication of an audio recording of a December phone call between then-President Donald Trump and a top Georgia elections investigator. The Wall Street Journal published audio last week of a December 23 phone call between Trump and Frances Watson, the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office. The audio recording debunked multiple news reports that attributed fake quotes to Trump. Initial reports by CNN and The Washington Post said that Trump urged Watson to “find the fraud,” telling her she would be a “national hero,” according to archived versions of the stories. The president said neither line, according to the audio recording, and the lines have been cut from both stories. Both outlets cited a single source familiar with the call. It is unknown whether each outlet spoke with the same anonymous source to get the falsified quotes. https://www.dailywire.com/news/news-outlets-issue-major-corrections-after-botching-reports-on-december-phone-call-between-trump-ga-election-investigator Edited March 15, 2021 by Big Blitz 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillStime Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 37 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Hey remember this episode of "You're Being Played?" The one where Trump threatened the Georgia Election Investigation? Stunning another plot twist: News Outlets Issue Major Corrections After Botching Reports On December Phone Call Between Trump, GA Election Investigator At least two major news outlets have issued corrections following the publication of an audio recording of a December phone call between then-President Donald Trump and a top Georgia elections investigator. The Wall Street Journal published audio last week of a December 23 phone call between Trump and Frances Watson, the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office. The audio recording debunked multiple news reports that attributed fake quotes to Trump. Initial reports by CNN and The Washington Post said that Trump urged Watson to “find the fraud,” telling her she would be a “national hero,” according to archived versions of the stories. The president said neither line, according to the audio recording, and the lines have been cut from both stories. Both outlets cited a single source familiar with the call. It is unknown whether each outlet spoke with the same anonymous source to get the falsified quotes. https://www.dailywire.com/news/news-outlets-issue-major-corrections-after-botching-reports-on-december-phone-call-between-trump-ga-election-investigator NEWS FLASH: Trump should have NEVER made the call in the first place. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 51 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Hey remember this episode of "You're Being Played?" The one where Trump threatened the Georgia Election Investigation? Stunning another plot twist: News Outlets Issue Major Corrections After Botching Reports On December Phone Call Between Trump, GA Election Investigator At least two major news outlets have issued corrections following the publication of an audio recording of a December phone call between then-President Donald Trump and a top Georgia elections investigator. The Wall Street Journal published audio last week of a December 23 phone call between Trump and Frances Watson, the chief investigator of the Georgia Secretary of State’s office. The audio recording debunked multiple news reports that attributed fake quotes to Trump. Initial reports by CNN and The Washington Post said that Trump urged Watson to “find the fraud,” telling her she would be a “national hero,” according to archived versions of the stories. The president said neither line, according to the audio recording, and the lines have been cut from both stories. Both outlets cited a single source familiar with the call. It is unknown whether each outlet spoke with the same anonymous source to get the falsified quotes. https://www.dailywire.com/news/news-outlets-issue-major-corrections-after-botching-reports-on-december-phone-call-between-trump-ga-election-investigator Oh man at least they corrected the record months after the fact. Democracy dies in Darkness and all that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Oh man at least they corrected the record months after the fact. Democracy dies in Darkness and all that At least they corrected their mistakes, unlike Trump, Faux News, OAN, Newsmax ... Edited March 16, 2021 by Scraps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 3 hours ago, Scraps said: At least they corrected their mistakes, unlike Trump, Faux News, OAN, Newsmax ... Yeah, I don't think this merits an "at least." Journos have one job and they routinely suck at it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scraps Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 4 hours ago, FireChans said: Yeah, I don't think this merits an "at least." Journos have one job and they routinely suck at it. Does that statement apply to both sides? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted March 16, 2021 Share Posted March 16, 2021 6 hours ago, Scraps said: Does that statement apply to both sides? I’m talking about this instance currently. This is bad journalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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leh-nerd skin-erd Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, FireChans said: Yeah, I don't think this merits an "at least." Journos have one job and they routinely suck at it. Unfortunately, they don’t suck at it, they’re extremely adept at it. They know with reasonable certainty that a falsely reported story has very little fallout, and that the best way to shape the narrative is the “anonymous source”. Another poster on the board would often scoff at the mere suggestion that anonymous sourcing could be problematic, citing cases just like this: “Multiple sources reported the same thing (thus it’s gotta be true....right??)”. It happened with Russia, Ukraine, the election and the fact is people don’t care of they’re manipulated by the press so long as they get what they need. It was always funny to hear them complain about Trump lies, while getting fed bull#### from iron clad sources like the WaPo, and celebrating the election of honest Joe Biden. Edited March 17, 2021 by leh-nerd skin-erd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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