trump supporters

[DrDawkinstein]

Got played like a fiddle...

 

[Warcodered]

16 hours ago, TSOL said:

 

 

You know, when we were little and we were told, and we believed this was the greatest country in the world. The land of opportunity. Where you could do whatever you wanted for a living if you worked hard enough. Where a blue collar person could earn enough money for a little house a car, a family. You know, 40+50 years ago when unions were strong and factory workers earned double what the are making now. 

 

When we had really good/great men as leaders of the country. 

 

The Dems in the last 20 years have sold us out for short term economic gain. 

 

Guys like Clinton and obama. Those popular guys. Sure, they had great smiles, and they were cool. Oh man were they smooth and cool but the begining of the wholesale of america was under Clinton (NAFTA) 

 

And under obama, that's when a ton of our agriculture was sold to China. You know about the meat processing plants and farms right? 

 

I could go on about when we used to invent and innovate if you wish. Back when our education system wasn't ranked 27th in the world. You know my elementary school aged kids haven't been in a classroom in nearly a year, that should do wonders for the new generation of America. 

 

I don't see things going in a good direction right now, and yeah, trump is an epic fail. But he got elected because people are sick of career polititions selling us down the river. 

 

Well, now everyone rejoice because now we have a glorious white knight career politition to lead us out of the dark ages that the boogey man cast us into. 

 

All apologies if I seem cynical. 

 

 

 

 

 

2 hours ago, Logic said:

Thanks for the response. I appreciate your perspective.

The bolded are statements that I agree with.

I find that, when it comes to what we all want, there are often more commonalities than most would admit.

I, too, want to live in a country where working 40 hours means you can afford a home and a car and health insurance. I, too, want to live in a country with a strong education system. I want to live in a country where people aren't dying in the street because they have to choose between insulin and their next meal.

I vehemently disagree with your assertion that democrats are somehow to blame for the ills of America. I believe it's quite clear which side has been the enemy of health care, of living wages, and of education, and it's not the left. It saddens and confounds me that anyone could actually think that the modern GOP cares anything about the values you mentioned, the hopes that you have. It seems quite clear that, while neither side is perfect, one side has fought for the common American far, FAR more than the other.  

Nevertheless, despite the fact that you blame the evils on "the evil democrats" while I think that's preposterous and silly....again, the fact remains that many Americans want many of the same things. You and I want many of the same things. We may disagree on the best way to achieve these ends.

Let's give the new guy a chance and see what happens. 

 

40-50 years ago.....so Nixon? and the guys that had to clean up after him?

 

But seriously if there is a political movement that pushed us away from the things your missing I'd say it was all this trickle down economics. I mean I can't understand why anyone would think giving more/taking less money from the rich with the hope they'll share(because if there is one thing people who have amassed large amounts of money are known for it's sharing) those gains with people further down the ladder would be more effective than programs and support for the people down the ladder directly.

 

1 hour ago, B-Man said:

😆

You mean at the secured military base?

[SoCal Deek]

36 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 

But seriously if there is a political movement that pushed us away from the things your missing I'd say it was all this trickle down economics. I mean I can't understand why anyone would think giving more/taking less money from the rich with the hope they'll share(because if there is one thing people who have amassed large amounts of money are known for it's sharing) those gains with people further down the ladder would be more effective than programs and support for the people down the ladder directly.

 

It's not YOUR money dude! 

[The Frankish Reich]

A DR sighting? 
tons of Q people running for the

exits now. 

Edited January 20, 2021 by The Frankish Reich

[WEATHER DOT COM]

1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

 

Is that @Foxx or @Deranged Rhino? Can't tell with the new haircut

[Warcodered]

16 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

It's not YOUR money dude! 

I mean it is it's all of our money or do you think money from taxes don't count unless you're rich? It is our government/society.

[SoCal Deek]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

I mean it is it's all of our money or do you think money from taxes don't count unless you're rich? It is our government/society.

If and when you ever develop enough skills to actually earn some money, get back to me then. 

[The Frankish Reich]

13 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

Is that @Foxx or @Deranged Rhino? Can't tell with the new haircut

Can someone do a DR welfare check?

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/some-qanon-followers-struggle-inauguration-day-n1255002

 

There’s a great post from one of the sketchier forums kicking around. I can’t seem to find it now. But it’s basically this:

 

TO ALL FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS VISITING THIS SITE: Please be aware that everything I have posted here was intended as satire. 

Edited January 20, 2021 by The Frankish Reich

[WEATHER DOT COM]

Just now, The Frankish Reich said:

Can someone do a DR welfare check?

 

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/some-qanon-followers-struggle-inauguration-day-n1255002

 

There’s a great post from one of the sketchier forums kicking around. I can’t seem to find it now. But it’s basically the this:

 

TO ALL FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS VISITING THIS SITE: Please be aware that everything I have posted here was intended as satire. 

 

lol

 

He should be glad that QANON thread got sent to the dust bin though I would argue the DeepState one is even loonier. 

[Motorin']

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

If and when you ever develop enough skills to actually earn some money, get back to me then. 

 

Have a nice life. 

 

[Warcodered]

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

If and when you ever develop enough skills to actually earn some money, get back to me then. 

So you don't really have any actual point point to make.

[Motorin']

Just now, Warcodered said:

So you don't really have any actual point point to make.

 

Most Trump supporters are actually welfare recipients who don't realize who the real economic engine of the country is. I oppose cutting their Medicare and Medicaid, they deserve to live as healthy a life as they can. 

[Like A Mofo]

17 hours ago, TBBills said:

It's ok b.c Trump fed your feeble mind with lies and corruption. You are brainwashed and we are here to help. The terrorist Trump will not hurt you again.

 

 

As you 'celebrate' and usher in the TRUE terrorists. At least now you can cozy up and worship MSNBC and watch them spin more and more lies.

 

You are all blind sheep. BOTH sides.

 

 

 

 

[SoCal Deek]

2 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

So you don't really have any actual point point to make.

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, so I'll leave you and your group of over-victimized friends to your non-stop whining. 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, so I'll leave you and your group of over-victimized friends to your non-stop whining. 

 

MAX Projection today!

[Motorin']

2 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, so I'll leave you and your group of over-victimized friends to your non-stop whining. 

 

Young man there's no need to feel down
I said young man pick yourself off the ground
I said young man 'cause your in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy

Young man there's a place you can go
I said young man when you're short on your dough
You can stay there and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

It's fun to stay at the Y.M.C.A.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

3 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, so I'll leave you and your group of over-victimized friends to your non-stop whining. 

 

At least Covid ended after the election, right dude?

[TBBills]

6 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:

 

As you 'celebrate' and usher in the TRUE terrorists. At least now you can cozy up and worship MSNBC and watch them spin more and more lies.

 

You are all blind sheep. BOTH sides.

 

 

 

 

Says the feeble minded terroristic organization of Trumpster... Go back in your hole.

[WEATHER DOT COM]

7 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:

 

As you 'celebrate' and usher in the TRUE terrorists

 

 

Move to Russia, comrade

[Warcodered]

Just now, SoCal Deek said:

Not sure what that's supposed to mean, so I'll leave you and your group of over-victimized friends to your non-stop whining. 

 It means you brought nothing to the table not a damn thing.

 

I talk about my belief that trickle down economics doesn't work for very foreseeable reasons.

 

You respond saying it's not my money. Which cool one liner bro.

 

I respond that it is and it's the money of everyone that pays taxes because that's how government works.

 

You respond by saying you won't listen to me because I'm poor despite having no actual knowledge of me.

[SoTier]

2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Got played like a fiddle...

 

 

They obviously didn't have enough $$$$ to bribe Trump's fellow grifters to bring their cases to the Grifter In Chief's attention.

 

 

23 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:

 

As you 'celebrate' and usher in the TRUE terrorists. At least now you can cozy up and worship MSNBC and watch them spin more and more lies.

 

You are all blind sheep. BOTH sides.

 

 

 

 

 

                                                                                         

 

[DrDawkinstein]

31 minutes ago, Like A Mofo said:

 

As you 'celebrate' and usher in the TRUE terrorists. At least now you can cozy up and worship MSNBC and watch them spin more and more lies.

 

You are all blind sheep. BOTH sides.

 

 

 

 

 

When do you move to Saudi Arabia, or North Korea, or whatever country you landed on that holds to your values?

[Logic]

3 hours ago, wnyguy said:

New guy? He has been in politics for almost half a century. New guy? He has done nothing in all of that time except line his pockets, his and his family.  He is now just a puppet for the liberal, socialist, left and they will cut his strings soon enough to pave way for their agenda. I almost feel sorry for the "new guy".

I'm sure you were a big fan of the guy that just left office, though? I'm sure HE'D never use the office to line his and his family's pockets! 🙄

[SoCal Deek]

42 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

 It means you brought nothing to the table not a damn thing.

 

I talk about my belief that trickle down economics doesn't work for very foreseeable reasons.

 

You respond saying it's not my money. Which cool one liner bro.

 

I respond that it is and it's the money of everyone that pays taxes because that's how government works.

 

You respond by saying you won't listen to me because I'm poor despite having no actual knowledge of me.

Trickle down economics? I believe it's understood that tax money should be distributed amongst the population for services rendered for the proportionate good of the whole. The purpose of taxation however is not to play some sort of modern-day Robin Hood.  Is that specific enough for you.  And, yes, if you want to give MORE MONEY than the formulas calculate that you owe, by all means go ahead and do so. Nobody's stopping you.

[Warcodered]

49 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said:

Trickle down economics? I believe it's understood that tax money should be distributed amongst the population for services rendered for the proportionate good of the whole. The purpose of taxation however is not to play some sort of modern-day Robin Hood.  Is that specific enough for you.  And, yes, if you want to give MORE MONEY than the formulas calculate that you owe, by all means go ahead and do so. Nobody's stopping you.

This is all it is, that robin hood crap is just a different way of saying you don't think we should spend more to help people in the lower income group as a way to expand our economy and raise us all up. Another tactic of giving tax relief to people in the upper income group honestly hasn't seemed to of worked that well.

 

[WideNine]

5 hours ago, SoCal Deek said:

Trickle down economics? I believe it's understood that tax money should be distributed amongst the population for services rendered for the proportionate good of the whole. The purpose of taxation however is not to play some sort of modern-day Robin Hood.  Is that specific enough for you.  And, yes, if you want to give MORE MONEY than the formulas calculate that you owe, by all means go ahead and do so. Nobody's stopping you.

 

There are no easy answers here. Simply tossing money at issues rarely raises the bar.

 

Tax codes could be more equitable, but just gathering money solves little if the funds are not used strategically.

 

We need better education and infrastructure investment for this country, but better accountability that those investments are managed well and producing the desired results.

 

Our institutions designed to protect those investments need to be purged of their corporate capture, like the insanity of having a coal lobbyist in charge of our EPA, or corporate broadband shill in charge of the FCC.

 

I pay a boat load of taxes where I live and watch the most wasteful mismanagement by well-meaning idiots. It's a bit of a tourist trap area.

 

They recently installed a digital sign to tell folks how fast they are going, but you could drive around for miles and still be looking for a speed limit sign. So you basically just know how fast you are going and no idea whether it is too fast.

 

Well you would, but the battery powering the thing went dead a few weeks ago...and yeah.

 

I am from practical WNY blue-collar stock and I just keep shaking my head as the wasteful stuup is everywhere.

 

 

 

Edited January 21, 2021 by WideNine

[Backintheday544]

GOP congressmen asked for a pardon relating to the coup and were turned down. All people involved in the coup did not get a pardon: https://www.salon.com/2021/01/20/two-gop-congressmen-sought-pardons-for-their-connection-to-capitol-attack-report/

[SoTier]

1 hour ago, Backintheday544 said:

GOP congressmen asked for a pardon relating to the coup and were turned down. All people involved in the coup did not get a pardon: https://www.salon.com/2021/01/20/two-gop-congressmen-sought-pardons-for-their-connection-to-capitol-attack-report/

 

Now, why would Gosuch and Biggs seek a presidential pardon unless they had done something significantly illegal?   Baby Trump, Jr and his wife as well as Mo Brooks and Crazy Rudy may all face at least criminal investigations because of their parts in the coup attempt.  Fear of being convicted by the Senate was the only thing that kept Trump from issuing wholesale preemptive pardons to any and all of the domestic terrorists who participated in the January 6 coup attempt.  Once again, Trump demonstrated that he only cares about himself, and everybody else can go hang, including his children.  Even if the Senate doesn't convict Trump, leaving the entire cabal from the Traitor in Chief on down to the lowest and slowest moron who participated in trying to overthrow American democracy open to criminal and civil consequences makes the second impeachment a success. 

[DrDawkinstein]

So close to figuring it out...

 

 

The repeated use of "confident" in the questions leads me to believe they arent aware of what "con" stands for in "con man". But they are learning. The hard way.

[Orlando Tim]

22 hours ago, Warcodered said:

This is all it is, that robin hood crap is just a different way of saying you don't think we should spend more to help people in the lower income group as a way to expand our economy and raise us all up. Another tactic of giving tax relief to people in the upper income group honestly hasn't seemed to of worked that well.

 

Has there been a study done that showed giving people money has raised them out of poverty in real life? I am all for protecting people and ensuring food, clothes, and shelter and education but this past year pretty well shows if the government gives funds the rich get richer (bezos and Musk) and the poor stay the same.

[daz28]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Has there been a study done that showed giving people money has raised them out of poverty in real life? I am all for protecting people and ensuring food, clothes, and shelter and education but this past year pretty well shows if the government gives funds the rich get richer (bezos and Musk) and the poor stay the same.

We are given the illusion that America is a fair, level playing field.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.

[Orlando Tim]

2 minutes ago, daz28 said:

We are given the illusion that America is a fair, level playing field.  Nothing could be farther from the truth.

So you put back into office the guy who has been at the controls for 50 years to change it? 

[daz28]

1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

So you put back into office the guy who has been at the controls for 50 years to change it? 

He has never been president, and a president alone does not wield the power to change wealth inequality by himself.  

[The Frankish Reich]

4 minutes ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

So you put back into office the guy who has been at the controls for 50 years to change it? 

Well, we do know that Mr. Level Playing Field Trump issued pardons to the following levelers:

- Jared Kushner's dad. One of his minions was starting to talk to investigators so old man Kushner set him up with a hooker to blackmail him

- Steve Bannon. Swindled well-meaning but incredibly gullible people to donate to his private Mexico wall fund, which turned out to be a personal enrichment fund

- One of the parents involved in the Varsity Blues scandal, who paid a guy to make it look like his daughter (woefully unqualified to get into USC) was a top crew athlete, thereby depriving some hardworking and bright kid from getting in and having a chance to get ahead in life.

- The ex-husband of Fox's Judge Jeanine Pirro, who swindled the government by taking $1.2 million in federal tax deductions for clearly personal expenses

- an eye doctor who committed the largest Medicare fraud in history

- a real estate Ponzi scheme operator

 

Now that's the way to make sure the common man gets a fair shake!

[daz28]

7 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Well, we do know that Mr. Level Playing Field Trump issued pardons to the following levelers:

- Jared Kushner's dad. One of his minions was starting to talk to investigators so old man Kushner set him up with a hooker to blackmail him

- Steve Bannon. Swindled well-meaning but incredibly gullible people to donate to his private Mexico wall fund, which turned out to be a personal enrichment fund

- One of the parents involved in the Varsity Blues scandal, who paid a guy to make it look like his daughter (woefully unqualified to get into USC) was a top crew athlete, thereby depriving some hardworking and bright kid from getting in and having a chance to get ahead in life.

- The ex-husband of Fox's Judge Jeanine Pirro, who swindled the government by taking $1.2 million in federal tax deductions for clearly personal expenses

- an eye doctor who committed the largest Medicare fraud in history

- a real estate Ponzi scheme operator

 

Now that's the way to make sure the common man gets a fair shake!

Let's not forget Trump and his family were caught swindling charities themselves.  Real cool we live in a country where mega-rich swindlers get to pardon fellow swindlers.  Gawd Bless America!

[TSOL]

5 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Well, we do know that Mr. Level Playing Field Trump issued pardons to the following levelers:

- Jared Kushner's dad. One of his minions was starting to talk to investigators so old man Kushner set him up with a hooker to blackmail him

- Steve Bannon. Swindled well-meaning but incredibly gullible people to donate to his private Mexico wall fund, which turned out to be a personal enrichment fund

- One of the parents involved in the Varsity Blues scandal, who paid a guy to make it look like his daughter (woefully unqualified to get into USC) was a top crew athlete, thereby depriving some hardworking and bright kid from getting in and having a chance to get ahead in life.

- The ex-husband of Fox's Judge Jeanine Pirro, who swindled the government by taking $1.2 million in federal tax deductions for clearly personal expenses

- an eye doctor who committed the largest Medicare fraud in history

- a real estate Ponzi scheme operator

 

Now that's the way to make sure the common man gets a fair shake!

 

 

The bad man is gone. He can't hurt you anymore. As a nation let's focus on healing instead of poking at old wounds. 

 

The in-fighting between us average American citizens is what's wearkening our country. 

[The Frankish Reich]

Just now, TSOL said:

 

 

The bad man is gone. He can't hurt you anymore. As a nation let's focus on healing instead of poking at old wounds. 

 

The in-fighting between us average American citizens is what's wearkening our country. 

 

[TSOL]

3 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

 

 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Liberty

 

That band was sick but...

 

Those who don't know their history are bound to repeat it

Edited January 21, 2021 by TSOL

[daz28]

5 minutes ago, TSOL said:

 

 

The bad man is gone. He can't hurt you anymore. As a nation let's focus on healing instead of poking at old wounds. 

 

The in-fighting between us average American citizens is what's wearkening our country. 

Lindsay Graham just today is telling everyone he is still the leader of the Republican party, so he's still going to be doing damage.  Also, a wound will never heal, unless you look at it, and give it proper treatment.  It's never a good idea to hope a disease goes away if left alone.

[Warcodered]

1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said:

Has there been a study done that showed giving people money has raised them out of poverty in real life? I am all for protecting people and ensuring food, clothes, and shelter and education but this past year pretty well shows if the government gives funds the rich get richer (bezos and Musk) and the poor stay the same.

I wouldn't just give people money I absolutely think you need to put into programs to increase education, improve health care, and so people don't have to worry about their next meal.