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Week 12 Post Game thread Bills vs Chargers


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9 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

I think he/she was originally saying it’d be nice to close a game out without it being a nail biter. You can’t deny we should’ve won by 3 TD’s today.  So yes, obviously the game finished, and obviously we finished with a win, but it was an ugly finish.  If we’re going to go anywhere in the playoffs, we need to be more dominant, and not allow teams back into the game.  Happy they won.. but need to learn how to close teams out vs getting soft and making mistakes in the second half. It has happened way too many times this year.  Do you disagree?

I do.

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Just now, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Dude, if you think the fourth quarter performance will work week in and week out knock yourself out.

 

Every game is different. Why do people assume 1 game's 4th quarter performance will be every games 4th quarter performance?

 

If anything this is the aberration, the Bills lead the NFL in average 4th quarter points and play lights put usually.

 

THAT should be what you think the normal performance is not a single game versus the other 10.

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2 minutes ago, balln said:

titans just went on the road against a division rival and crushed the colts. who just beat pack

 

And the Colts demolished the Titans 2 weeks ago on the road. What's your point? It is a week to week league.

 

Also the Pack blew that game they had a big first half lead.

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For a minute I thought oh good I like it when the refs confer and pick up flag....Then BAM! Those calls were ridiculous. Call on Josh for spinning ball, call on RB for flipping the ball, (couldn't remember which one)...I am sure I am missing some others.

Time to forget this and proceed.

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6 minutes ago, balln said:

they cant beat cheifs, titans and i would bet cant beat steelers and ravens. saying they beat "winning" teams which the 6-5 raiders are is sugar coating it

You can bet all you want. Your opinion of the team doesn't affect how the Bills play.

 

The Titans and Ravens have embarrassing losses this year to inferior teams. The Bills losses came against three good teams.

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Just now, matter2003 said:

 

Every game is different. Why do people assume 1 game's 4th quarter performance will be every games 4th quarter performance?

 

If anything this is the aberration, the Bills lead the NFL in average 4th quarter points and play lights put usually.

 

THAT should be what you think the normal performance is not a single game versus the other 10.

they sucked against the rams in the second half. that was 2 3 and 20 yard conversions and a DPI requirement to win that game

 

NE was a last second fumble

 

Dolphins was close game

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1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

 

And the Colts demolished the Titans 2 weeks ago on the road. What's your point? It is a week to week league.

 

Also the Pack blew that game they had a big first half lead.

games in week 1 dont matter. games now matter

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Just now, balln said:

they sucked against the rams in the second half. that was 2 3 and 20 yard conversions and a DPI requirement to win that game

 

NE was a last second fumble

 

Dolphins was close game

 

The Bills lead the NFL in average 4th quarter points. You gloss over that conveniently.

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44 minutes ago, balln said:

in no universe is allen ever going to be better than mahommes. bills made wrong decision trading back in the draft w chiefs

And 10 teams missed on him entirely. So JA and TW heck of lot better than Mitch T and missing draft choices for 3 years. 

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2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

 

Yeah he mad a couple wild throws he got away with, the one he hurt his ankle on too.

The one on his ankle was him throwing the ball away.

3 minutes ago, balln said:

games in week 1 dont matter. games now matter

That would of been week 10.

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3 minutes ago, matter2003 said:

 

Every game is different. Why do people assume 1 game's 4th quarter performance will be every games 4th quarter performance?

 

If anything this is the aberration, the Bills lead the NFL in average 4th quarter points and play lights put usually.

 

THAT should be what you think the normal performance is not a single game versus the other 10.

 

Because so far for the most part it's happened every week.  Thats a pretty good reason to assume it will be like that every game.   How many games were we ahead either at half time or begin of 4th quarter and allowed other team to get closer or even go ahead.  Most excluding Az game we pulled out, but we've let too many teams back into game

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8 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

The Titans, Chiefs, and Steelers are all clearly better than the Bills.... and if the Bills played Baltimore in the playoffs I’d bet they’d lose. 
 

They also don’t match up well with a team like Cleveland who can pound the ball and the Bills struggle to stop the run. 

If they played right now you may be right but the season doesn't end right now lol if the bills defense keeps improving they will be scary in the playoffs.  Today's effort was encouraging the chargers have been rolling on offense

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Just now, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

If they played right now you may be right but the season doesn't end right now lol if the bills defense keeps improving they will be scary in the playoffs.  Today's effort was encouraging the chargers have been rolling on offense

offense is going backwards tho

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16 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

The Titans, Chiefs, and Steelers are all clearly better than the Bills.... and if the Bills played Baltimore in the playoffs I’d bet they’d lose. 
 

They also don’t match up well with a team like Cleveland who can pound the ball and the Bills struggle to stop the run. 

The titans have lost to the bengals. “Clearly” better than the bills? They are streaky as hell... The ravens are on a 2 game skid. Knock it off. Good lord. 

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Just now, balln said:

offense is going backwards tho

I mean they got manhandled by Joey bosa and fumbled twice in a row and the refs seemingly had a large sum wagered on the chargers winning and we still moved the ball and won pretty comfortably. The chargers are no slouch I think the game today was more encouraging than some others think.  

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The bills are Wildfire . They burn hot.

 

I don't deny that we could be one-and-done in the playoffs, but I still think we are dangerous. We could also make some crazy run and win a Superbowl. No different than old Manning G men. 

 

We need to work on some stuff....for sure...but we are way ahead of where we used to be and that is reason to be happy...

 

8-3 

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58 minutes ago, Kutztown83 said:

Does anyone else believe the first Hail Mary was an incomplete pass?  The Bills would have then declined the penalty and taken over on downs.  Game over.  The refs should have taken a closer look at that play, IMO.

 

hubby who is a football guru said this exact same thing he was practically screaming this at me when it happened....would have saved a lot of headaches and drama if it'd have gone this way thats for sure..I go with hubby I call it incomplete , penalty would have been declined Bills would have taken over on downs at that point. Its moot now thank goodness

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11 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Well considering the Titans smoked the Bills earlier in the year. Yes, I’d say they are clearly better. 

Because every first game match up follows that exact script. Colts were short handed Titans took advantage. Good for them. Who cares about the Titans. 5 games to go in the season is an eternity we are 8-3. Need to improve. Outside of KC and maybe Pitt as clear favorites, Bills are right there. More about Bills improvement then what others are doing. 

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1 hour ago, Rocky Landing said:

At one point in the first half, the ref announced #71 as an eligible receiver. I had forgotten who that was-- Ryan Bates. But, the rest of the O-line starters were out there. Were they playing him like a TE? Weird.

 

Bates has been playing as extra lineman mostly in goal line situations and as lineman on end he needs to be declared.  He has helped Josh on a few runs including TDs.

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If there was no 3rd quarter in any games we could be 11-0....hyperbole aside, glad to see the run game (albeit vs a poor run D) and the D stepped up, but this game overall left me strangely unsatisfied.

 

Lots of us remember the dark days when we would have been over the moon to be 8-3. Maybe the bar has been raised, and, with it, my expectations. Perhaps I am guilty of being a tortured armchair QB.

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

They never trailed in the game. They didn’t need to “find a way”, they finished the game and won by two scores 

 

I second that. The Bills led 17 - 6 after a solid workmanlike first half. Then the Bills looked like a division winning playoff team when they came out of the locker room and had a nice 6 minute TD drive to go up 24 - 6.  At this point you had to be ecstatic at the Bills solid performance against a solid team.

 

Then the weird stuff started happening.  It began with a cheap unsportsmanlike penalty on Allen after his TD run. 

 

Then the D faces two 4th downs and allows LA to convert both. Stop the Chargers at midfield on the 4th & 2 and the game is over.

 

Then we had a nightmarish 4th quarter.  Leading 24 - 14 Singleterry rips off back to back 10 yard runs only to lose a bad fumble.

 

After throwing a beautiful deep ball to Gabe giving the Bills a 1st down at the LA 22 leading by 7, Allen fumbles the snap and instead of just falling on the ball tries to recreate the Dallas game.

 

A huge run by Moss is mostly eliminated by a 2nd chicken sh## sportsman like penalty.  This time on Moss.

 

Allen throws a bad INT.

 

Allen rips off a 17 yard run for a first down that puts us at the LA 12 lard line.  The play is called back after a very questionable holding call on Dawkins.

 

Truth be told is we should have blown them out in the 4th quarter.  The reality is that we led them by 11 and then by18 and for most of the 4th quarter by 10.  This wasn't really a close game accept in our minds as we still remembered how we lost that Arizona game at the end.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, chknwing334 said:

The Chargers had not lost by more than 8 points all season until this game. The Bills beat them by 10. The Chargers lost to the Chiefs by 3 (in OT), the Saints by 3 (in OT), and the Buccaneers by 7.  They are a good team.  This was a good win!

 

Chargers are working on improving team (they are) and improving draft pick (they are).

I do not see Chargers competing for playoffs - too hard with their circumstances - but want to be a team FAs go to and I think they are.

1 hour ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

 

As far as I can tell he's never been used as a blitz specialist, more as a run thumper.  Maximum credit to Leslie Frazier for understanding Klein's potential in getting after the QB.

 

In game today he was tackling or assisting in tackling players who should not have been his responsibility going a bit a distance from his original play.

You are right he is being used correctly now.

1 hour ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

I now understand about people on this site complaining that you can't say anything negative after a win. It's ludicrous .Bills are perfect is that better

 

And some only want to flame the Bills and from your login id I assume that for you.

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