Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 I find myself liking Jim Kubiak's stuff more and more this year. I think he's gotten better. In this piece, I really like how he critiques Allen (fairly) - for example, pointing out that on a throw that was almost picked, Singletary didn't run his route with enough conviction to persuade Peterson he was an intended target who needed covered (this begs the question of why we have Singletary running a go route - if I were Peterson I'd be like "Nah, That's Eye Candy") but also that Knox was wide open and available as a target. He is also starting to do a good job pointing out places where how other players did their job (or did not do it) affected the outcome - for example a failed screen against Blitz 0 because both Beasley and Knox whiffed on their blocks. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/jim-kubiak-how-cardinals-amoeba-and-tandem-cover-1-strategy-impacted-josh-allen/article_48966f00-2860-11eb-b993-6f568495b1be.html Good read, does a good job pointing out the good and the bad. It is a paywall, but worth the trial IMO. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Looks like Allen while still fooled at times has progressed enough that he still will make plays against defenses like this... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, matter2003 said: Looks like Allen while still fooled at times has progressed enough that he still will make plays against defenses like this... Yes. And there is some self-scouting holding us back. White "robbed" a play with Seattle because he didn't believe the other guy was a target based on our scouting. Same thing with Peterson. We need to have someone they believe running the route. McKenzie. Kumarow. Someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) People forget that Russel Wilson and other great QB's throw picks too, miss seeing guys open, etc. Sometimes it feels like (not this thread or this article, but this board I am referencing) people have this expectation that Allen is only good if he is perfect. Its maddening at times. But it is fair to critique what he did right and what he didn't do right like it is with all players. But some other posters around here just seem to think Allen should be perfect and isn't allowed to make a mistake without again questioning his potential. Some here are even saying he has already peaked. Its not about will he make a mistake, because he will as all of the greats do...its how does he bounce back and respond. Can he have the memory of a goldfish and forget it 10 seconds later. And Josh has that in spades. I mean lets be real here, Josh led us on yet another 4th quarter comeback for what should have been a perfect pass for game sealing win, on the very next drive after a critical INT mistake. A fluke insane play by an elite WR took that focus away, but its those ice in the veins moments that tell you that no matter what we always have a chance in those situations. Brady has that, Montana had that, Brees has that, Wilson has that, Mahomes has that...etc. Its a trait you can never teach, a trait that is either there or not and its rare. Guys like Matt Ryan, Stafford, Rivers, Cousins, Goff, etc are not guys that you ever feel are clutch and will get the job done with one final play or drive. Edited November 17, 2020 by Alphadawg7 27 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 ^big truth 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I find myself liking Jim Kubiak's stuff more and more this year. I think he's gotten better. In this piece, I really like how he critiques Allen (fairly) - for example, pointing out that on a throw that was almost picked, Singletary didn't run his route with enough conviction to persuade Peterson he was an intended target who needed covered (this begs the question of why we have Singletary running a go route - if I were Peterson I'd be like "Nah, That's Eye Candy") but also that Knox was wide open and available as a target. He is also starting to do a good job pointing out places where how other players did their job (or did not do it) affected the outcome - for example a failed screen against Blitz 0 because both Beasley and Knox whiffed on their blocks. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/jim-kubiak-how-cardinals-amoeba-and-tandem-cover-1-strategy-impacted-josh-allen/article_48966f00-2860-11eb-b993-6f568495b1be.html Good read, does a good job pointing out the good and the bad. It is a paywall, but worth the trial IMO. Not to nitpick Kubiak but I agree that was the only part of that play critique that I couldn't see - crap film vantage, but Knox's defender is still tight on him right before Allen works his progressions that way. The better critique would likely be Allen rushed his throw due to perceived pressure, coverage, etc., but it's hard to tell when exactly Knox's defender peeled off to cover the cross route from Brown. Sure, maybe if he rolls out instead this all goes the same way and Knox is open, but the only real critique you can make from this play is why tf is Daboll dialing up a RB go route as a decoy against one of the best man DBs in the league? Beasley, Diggs, and Knox all ran lackluster routes (5yd out; 10yd post and gets chipped over middle; 5yd curl respectively) meant to keep coverage down and to the left while Brown crossed and Singletary decoyed Peterson. He practically gave Allen one option on that play and it wasn't even remotely well protected. Not to beat down on Daboll, who I'd say actually has shown improvement on his own as well, but this play was one of those head scratcher moments where he still thinks he's in NE, where RBs run the full route tree successfully. Edited November 17, 2020 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 7 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: And Josh has that in spades. I mean lets be real here, Josh led us on yet another 4th quarter comeback for what should have been a perfect pass for game sealing win, on the very next drive after a critical INT mistake. A fluke insane play by an elite WR took that focus away, but its those ice in the veins moments that tell you that no matter what we always have a chance in those situations. Brady has that, Montana had that, Brees has that, Wilson has that, Mahomes has that...etc. Its a trait you can never teach, a trait that is either there or not and its rare. Guys like Matt Ryan, Stafford, Rivers, Cousins, Goff, etc are not guys that you ever feel are clutch and will get the job done with one final play or drive. I think that is spot on other than I might argue Ryan and Stafford being in the latter camp. They are actually joint 4th in fourth quarter comebacks among active players behind only Brady, Brees and Ben. Yes, they have both been in the league longer than Russ (who is 7 behind them) and longer than Mahomes who no doubt will shoot up there but they have been in less time than Rivers and Rodgers who both trail them and a significant amount less time than Brady (who is only 8 ahead in 1st) . They have also both played with some pretty horrible defences. Even this season Matt Ryan has stood on the side watching a couple of DeAndre type moments as the Falcons manage to Falcon games away. Don't think it is fair to have them as anti-clutch. They might not quite have that "man I know this guy is going to get it done" but actually they have over their careers got it done plenty. They are somewhere in the middle IMO. Not complete clutch, but not anti-clutch either. But the way you come out of Sunday feeling better about Josh Allen (and bizarrely I do) is that he played a pretty bad game. Comfortably his worst of the season IMO. I even thought after the 2nd pick when it cut to him on the bench that the glazed over look made its first appearance of 2020. And yet, when it came to the final drive when we had to have it he played his best football of the day by far and his decision making was absolutely on point and the throw to Stefon Diggs was perfection. As you say every Quarterback is going to have bad plays and bad games. But it is a select few who can overcome that to do what Josh did in that drive. Okay, in the end it counted for nought - but it still leaves you walking away encouraged. Our guy can play like that.... and then when the moment was biggest he can play like THAT. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Mahomes still only has one pick to Allens 7. Allen has been more reckless with the ball lately... And Russell Wilson (widely considered the best, 2nd best or 3rd best QB in the league) has 10 to Allens 7. Allen also leads the NFL in passing yards, has no run game, and forced to throw constantly making it easier for teams defend when they don't have to fear the run. And lets be real...Allen really only threw 5 that can be truly put on him. The Kroft INT was the biggest BS call of the season, wasn't really an INT and the other one was Roberts fault. 4 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: I think that is spot on other than I might argue Ryan and Stafford being in the latter camp. They are actually joint 4th in fourth quarter comebacks among active players behind only Brady, Brees and Ben. Yes, they have both been in the league longer than Russ (who is 7 behind them) and longer than Mahomes who no doubt will shoot up there but they have been in less time than Rivers and Rodgers who both trail them and a significant amount less time than Brady (who is only 8 ahead in 1st) . They have also both played with some pretty horrible defences. Even this season Matt Ryan has stood on the side watching a couple of DeAndre type moments as the Falcons manage to Falcon games away. Don't think it is fair to have them as anti-clutch. They might not quite have that "man I know this guy is going to get it done" but actually they have over their careers got it done plenty. They are somewhere in the middle IMO. Not complete clutch, but not anti-clutch either. But the way you come out of Sunday feeling better about Josh Allen (and bizarrely I do) is that he played a pretty bad game. Comfortably his worst of the season IMO. I even thought after the 2nd pick when it cut to him on the bench that the glazed over look made its first appearance of 2020. And yet, when it came to the final drive when we had to have it he played his best football of the day by far and his decision making was absolutely on point and the throw to Stefon Diggs was perfection. As you say every Quarterback is going to have bad plays and bad games. But it is a select few who can overcome that to do what Josh did in that drive. Okay, in the end it counted for nought - but it still leaves you walking away encouraged. Our guy can play like that.... and then when the moment was biggest he can play like THAT. Fair points on Stafford and Ryan, I still lack the confidence in them when the game is on the line, but maybe that is more their teams than them individually. Edited November 17, 2020 by Alphadawg7 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: But he won't after the bye... you tell em gene 2 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: But he won't after the bye... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 18 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Mahomes still only has one pick to Allens 7. Allen has been more reckless with the ball lately... So Allen sucks because he’s not Patrick Mahomes? Really? By that standard, every other QB in the league sucks, too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: How did you get to the "Allen sucks" part? You made a comparison between Allen and Mahomes suggesting that Allen is “lacking” because Mahomes has only thrown one INT this season. If “sucks” is too strong, fine, but you seem to find Allen “unfavorable” by comparison to Mahomes. And if that’s the case, every other QB is unfavorable as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: But he won't after the bye... you're really not a bills fan, are you gene. if you claim you are, just based off your recent posts, you're a disgrace to bills mafia and should just bury your head in the sand. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 39 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Mahomes still only has one pick to Allens 7. Allen has been more reckless with the ball lately... He does but so does every other QB in the NFL. Allen has been a little more careless but I will trade those for him throwing downfield more and not just keeping everything short like he was for about 3 or 4 games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I was born a Bills fan. Maybe that is different than choosing a team? could of fooled me, gene. I thought you chose the fins as your team to win the division and fare better then the bills on the last stretch of the season. I don't always root for the dolphins, but when I do, it's when I'm not rooting for the buffalo bills. signed, gene 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: I think the only reason you're fooled is due to being overly emotional about your team, which is one way to do it. No worries... you are too on this one, just in a negative way. you predict failure so that if it happens, it's less hurtful. it's a common defense, but it takes away from the joy of it all. let your hair down a bit. this is fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: I think the only reason you're fooled is due to being overly emotional about your team, which is one way to do it. No worries... Dude, you are dyspeptic. You and that High IQ guy seem to be in a race to the bottom on who can be most annoying. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 37 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: How did you get to the "Allen sucks" part? Alright. So Josh Allen isn't Patrick Mahomes. Is that a problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 59 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Mahomes still only has one pick to Allens 7. Allen has been more reckless with the ball lately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Bills losses don't hurt me like I think it hurts some of you. I never say "we" or "us" when talking about the Bills, I'm not on the team, don't contribute, etc... The thread is asking if we're optimistic. I am not. It's pretty straight forward. I am not optimistic due in large part to the way the HC manages his games. I also think the DC is bad and McDermott can't let him go due to non football reasoning. is there anything in life that makes you optimistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: SpaceX what about it makes you optimistic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 At least now I know who isn't getting invited to any Super Bowl parties. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: SpaceX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Bills traded the Mahomes pick, so kind of? The way Tre White has been playing, I'd say that was a huge organizational mistake. You are 100% confident that Mahomes would be playing the same way with the Bills instead of the Chiefs? That the coaching from Andy Reid has not been a benefit to Mahomes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: The first entity pushing to make our species multiplanetary, something governments only gave lip service to at best, said impossible at worst. Plus I plan to die on Mars so really need Starship to work. yeah, but i bet a few of the ships blow up with passengers in them. i also bet the idea of living on mars is far too aggressive for our generation, and we'll probably both be long dead before anyone is actually able to live on mars. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, ctk232 said: Not to nitpick Kubiak but I agree that was the only part of that play critique that I couldn't see - crap film vantage, but Knox's defender is still tight on him right before Allen works his progressions that way. The better critique would likely be Allen rushed his throw due to perceived pressure, coverage, etc., but it's hard to tell when exactly Knox's defender peeled off to cover the cross route from Brown. Sure, maybe if he rolls out instead this all goes the same way and Knox is open, but the only real critique you can make from this play is why tf is Daboll dialing up a RB go route as a decoy against one of the best man DBs in the league? Beasley, Diggs, and Knox all ran lackluster routes (5yd out; 10yd post and gets chipped over middle; 5yd curl respectively) meant to keep coverage down and to the left while Brown crossed and Singletary decoyed Peterson. He practically gave Allen one option on that play and it wasn't even remotely well protected. Not to beat down on Daboll, who I'd say actually has shown improvement on his own as well, but this play was one of those head scratcher moments where he still thinks he's in NE, where RBs run the full route tree successfully. I agree that it can be questionable when a pundit pronounces that someone was open, or that the QB should have stayed in the pocket, or whatever. A lot of times I look and see something else, like "no, he didn't leave the pocket because he felt pressure, he left it because it was one of those Mouse Davis secondary route thingamabobs and he wanted the throwing lane, just like in that Dallas play that worked or the Ravens play that didn't". I like Kubiak because I find less that puzzles me in his interpretations than some others. Anyway, here's a screen shot just before Allen throws, you be the judge: Knox, just above the "3" in 30, appears to me "open enough" for a good TE with his defender "boxed out" and able to either make the catch or defend. But look who's on the L hashmark raising the mailbox Flag - Diggs, that's who. And he's right. Everyone else is manipulated by Allen's eyes and leaving him All Alone. (Allen needed to have made up his mind at that point, but if Dawkins didn't get beat could have been a good play.) If Kubiak is correct that Singletary is supposed to be running a "Go" route, that's just about the sorriest-ass excuse for a go route I've ever seen. Singletary starts looking back and slowing down way early, so much that the NFL playbook thinks it was a pass to Singletary. I do give Motor credit for jumping Peterson's jump and defending. Anyway, I'm not sure it's Daboll's play design that's at fault. I think there may be some confusion about the routes on that play because having Singletary and Brown and their respective defenders that close to each other was surely not what the design of the play intended. I can't tell you whose mistake it was, but I don't think Singletary believes he's supposed to be running a Go route. Either way, Allen is looking at Brown all the way and Peterson is reading his eyes and expecting the ball to come right where it does. I don't think Singletary could have cleaned him out with a stick of dynamite. If that was supposed to be the "Go" route, wrong guy for the job. Which is, I suppose, on Motor because if he wants the "all purpose back" role on a team that runs a lot of 1-0 sets, he's gotta be able to do that. I don't think Allen rushed his throw due to perceived pressure. He can make better throws when pressured or rushed. I think he just didn't keep his feet moving and set properly. Work to do yet. Anyway, we all get to "Armchair Athlete" knowing there's probably a good chance we're wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 THE BUFFALO NEWS PAYWALL, I am determined to read this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: No, but I think Mahomes on this Bills team makes the Bills better than they currently are. Anyone who doesn't think the same isn't being forthright IMO. That's possible. I just think that the Bills have the capability to be a championship team with Josh Allen as the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 22 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Bills losses don't hurt me like I think it hurts some of you. I never say "we" or "us" when talking about the Bills, I'm not on the team, don't contribute, etc... The thread is asking if we're optimistic. I am not. It's pretty straight forward. Funny, I thought this thread was discussing Jim Kubiak's excellent analysis of Josh Allen's game against the AZ Cardinals. It's pretty straightforward. Got any input on that topic? I didn't see a soul in here asking if we're optimistic. Perhaps you mean that other thread, half a page up, turn left and go up the short flight, door on the right. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 5 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Anyway, here's a screen shot just before Allen throws, you be the judge: But look who's on the L hashmark raising the mailbox Flag - Diggs, that's who. And he's right. Everyone else is manipulated by Allen's eyes and leaving him All Alone. (Allen needed to have made up his mind at that point, but if Dawkins didn't get beat could have been a good play.) Yup, Josh blew the read on that one. And I bet Diggs wasn't happy about it. From the Gameday thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted November 17, 2020 Author Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, HOUSE said: THE BUFFALO NEWS PAYWALL, I am determined to read this Pay a freakin' buck then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ctk232 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I agree that it can be questionable when a pundit pronounces that someone was open, or that the QB should have stayed in the pocket, or whatever. A lot of times I look and see something else, like "no, he didn't leave the pocket because he felt pressure, he left it because it was one of those Mouse Davis secondary route thingamabobs and he wanted the throwing lane, just like in that Dallas play that worked or the Ravens play that didn't". I like Kubiak because I find less that puzzles me in his interpretations than some others. Anyway, here's a screen shot just before Allen throws, you be the judge: Knox, just above the "3" in 30, appears to me "open enough" for a good TE with his defender "boxed out" and able to either make the catch or defend. But look who's on the L hashmark raising the mailbox Flag - Diggs, that's who. And he's right. Everyone else is manipulated by Allen's eyes and leaving him All Alone. (Allen needed to have made up his mind at that point.) If Kubiak is correct that Singletary is supposed to be running a "Go" route, that's just about the sorriest-ass excuse for a go route I've ever seen. Singletary starts looking back and slowing down early, so much that the NFL playbook thinks it was a pass to Singletary. I do give Motor credit for jumping Peterson's jump and defending. Anyway, I'm not sure it's Daboll's play design that's at fault. I think there may be some confusion about the routes on that play because having Singletary and Brown and their respective defenders that close to each other was surely not what the design of the play intended. I can't tell you whose mistake it was, but I don't think Singletary believes he's supposed to be running a Go route. Either way, Allen is looking at Brown all the way and Peterson is reading his eyes and expecting the ball to come right where it does. I don't think Singletary could have cleaned him out with a stick of dynamite. If that was supposed to be the "Go" route, wrong guy for the job. Which is, I suppose, on Motor because if he wants the "all purpose back" role on a team that runs a lot of 1-0 sets, he's gotta be able to do that. I don't think Allen rushed his throw due to perceived pressure. He can make better throws when pressured or rushed. I think he just didn't keep his feet moving and set properly. Work to do yet. Anyway, we all get to "Armchair Athlete" knowing there's probably a good chance we're wrong. MUCH appreciate those wideviews - camera cut digs off just before the mailbox, but looks like Allen was passed that part of his read, albeit correctly or not. Sure, a completion to Knox seems possible there and he is at the sticks, but this wasn't the first and only time Josh preferred the deep route to the shallow route. Very easily could have been a first there, and at least a higher percentage of completion than the actual decision. Again, hard to tell exactly but we can at least say the read progression moves left to right, and looks to be reading the stack defender on the left side, and deep safety. He moves on pretty quickly, but man he does miss those two flat-footed defenders with Diggs splitting them. Deep safety (maybe Baker?) has already reacted to Allen's windup in the first still, but even if he stays put there a well placed sideline ball is something Diggs should come away with every time. Just b/c it is Baker and can close with the best - he likely covers that 10-15 yds since he's shading the left hash, but not in time for a well placed throw. All this to say, hope they're seeing this in film this week - both the potential to Diggs, and the garbage decoy concept using an RB much less Singletary specifically. Edited November 17, 2020 by ctk232 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Its not about will he make a mistake, because he will as all of the greats do...its how does he bounce back and respond. Can he have the memory of a goldfish and forget it 10 seconds later. Ok Allen's new nickname: Dory (would work better if he was a Phish QB) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Gene1973 said: But he won't after the bye... Geezus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I find myself liking Jim Kubiak's stuff more and more this year. I think he's gotten better. In this piece, I really like how he critiques Allen (fairly) - for example, pointing out that on a throw that was almost picked, Singletary didn't run his route with enough conviction to persuade Peterson he was an intended target who needed covered (this begs the question of why we have Singletary running a go route - if I were Peterson I'd be like "Nah, That's Eye Candy") but also that Knox was wide open and available as a target. He is also starting to do a good job pointing out places where how other players did their job (or did not do it) affected the outcome - for example a failed screen against Blitz 0 because both Beasley and Knox whiffed on their blocks. https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/jim-kubiak-how-cardinals-amoeba-and-tandem-cover-1-strategy-impacted-josh-allen/article_48966f00-2860-11eb-b993-6f568495b1be.html Good read, does a good job pointing out the good and the bad. It is a paywall, but worth the trial IMO. Yes, good piece. Re: the Singletary play, it looked to me like he actually could have caught the ball; he was on a clear path to beating Peterson to the ball but seemed to flat-out alligator-arm it. Not a good game for him given the PF and the dropped screen pass. Of course, his one really good play was called back because of that boneheaded block in the back by Knox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Bills traded the Mahomes pick, so kind of? The way Tre White has been playing, I'd say that was a huge organizational mistake. And that is where? Still in the past where it will remain unchanged. The Bills were one of 10 teams that passed on Mahomes. How many other teams would want a draft do-over if they could predict the future of all the players coming out and not just Mahomes, there are players scattered all over the league who would jump up to the top of a revised draft board... sounds like something someone could do for a what-if fantasy project, but meaningless as far as reality goes. It is amazing to me how many times this senseless past draft critique gets dusted off and recycled to bash the Bills organization. The same Bills org that has gotten us into the playoffs year after year and currently has us in the hunt for the AFC East top seed with just about half the team limping around in bandages. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 6 minutes ago, Gene1973 said: Allen leads Wilson by 82 yards. Allen is on bye next week, Wilson is not. After the bye Allen will likely be 6th or 7th in passing. NONE OF WHICH HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH KUBIAK OR WITH JOSH ALLEN'S PERFORMANCE IN ARIZONA. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS YET? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 Just now, Gene1973 said: The Bills effectively chose Tre White over a generational QB. Tre is good, but Mahomes is the best QB on the planet... NONE OF WHICH HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH KUBIAK OR WITH JOSH ALLEN'S PERFORMANCE IN ARIZONA. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS YET? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Funny, I thought this thread was discussing Jim Kubiak's excellent analysis of Josh Allen's game against the AZ Cardinals. It's pretty straightforward. Got any input on that topic? I didn't see a soul in here asking if we're optimistic. Perhaps you mean that other thread, half a page up, turn left and go up the short flight, door on the right. This board as a whole reads at roughly a 3rd grade level. Listening comprehension is roughly at a 1st grade level. I enjoy Kubiak... really neutral POV IMO. I personally like Cover1 because it’s free to watch and I learn better with visual aides and listening than I do reading. I think Cover1 is a really good source but tend to sugar coat some things here and there... Kubiak, like I said is neutral. It’s amazing the sources there are publicly available. You’d be surprised at how many pro teams keep tabs on these guys internally and learn from their breakdowns. We do it all the time... amazing free source for teams to learn from... even if they’re not as polished as the breakdown by the team themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Casey D Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Gene1973 said: Ok, guess I'll leave this thread... Sorry. That would be best. Maybe take a few days off too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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