NFL Trade Deadline Primer update on page 15

[Putin]

I think if we were in a dog fight for the division maybe Bean would have made a move , but we are 6-2 and are in the drivers seat to win the AFC east and a playoff game at home , 

I think more importantly is for this team to get healthy once we have all our guys ready to roll I really believe we can make a push for a deep playoff run with what we have ...

Go Bills 

[MrEpsYtown]

When was the last time an NFL trade deadline move was made that propelled a team to great playoff success? I’m not trying to snarky, like honestly curious. This isn’t baseball. At the end of the day, we don’t know what was out there and what was discussed, but I don’t think trade deadline additions are going to make or break this team. Disappointed? Yeah a bit. But the overreaction is a bit much. 
 

People were ready to go nuts on the line moves on Sunday. Anyone seen Ike Boettger’s pff number against the Pats? Now i don’t love PFF, but the point is that moves are made for various reasons. Anyway, moves are not made in a vacuum and these guys are going to cook with the groceries they chose. 

[VW82]

5 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

NT and Linebackers were available. NT Snacks signed not long ago and McLendon was traded not long ago. 

 

Let's see how Harrison plays vs. us this week if he even makes it off the practice squad. McLendon might have been a useful pick up but he had connections to TB coaching staff and that ship sailed anyway.

[Rc2catch]

4 minutes ago, McBean said:

Not sarcastic.

 

We have ways to go before competing for championships.

Every year teams are discounted. Nobody expected Tennessee to be in the championship game, San Fran was considered a joke because the offense was weak, Atlanta had no defense, you can go back years and years of teams who looked below average in areas during the season but got hot at the right time. Do I think we’re elite? Nah no way. But don’t talk like you know what status the team will be in 8 weeks. There’s enough talent to make a few plays a game to sway an outcome even if they haven’t shown much of it so far. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, VW82 said:

 

Let's see how Harrison plays vs. us this week if he even makes it off the practice squad. McLendon might have been a useful pick up but he had connections to TB coaching staff and that ship sailed anyway.

There were moves to be made. We don't have a ton of cap. But there were moves.  They did add an experience LB and CB to the depth. I was hoping they would go for it. Maybe they just don't feel confident that this is the year to go for it. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Buffalo_Stampede

[Rc2catch]

14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

NT and Linebackers were available. NT Snacks signed not long ago and McLendon was traded not long ago. 

Snacks picked where he wanted to play though. Multiple teams asked and he shot them down. Don’t know if it was us, but it was reported he only wanted to play for Seattle. 

[Hampton Josh fan]

Beane is 

1 minute ago, Putin said:

I think if we were in a dog fight for the division maybe Bean would have made a move , but we are 6-2 and are in the drivers seat to win the AFC east and a playoff game at home , 

I think more importantly is for this team to get healthy once we have all our guys ready to roll I really believe we can make a push for a deep playoff run with what we have ...

Go Bills 

Driver's seat! This team is defenseless and Beane knows it. Why wouldn't he make one acquisition to shore up the run defense. He's not as good as I thought.  His free agents have stunk ,and the schedule is very difficult. Obviously he thinks Bills fans are happy to just make the playoffs, but we will have to win shootouts with a shaky kicker. Good luck.

 

[VW82]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

There were moves to be made. We don't have a ton of cap. But there were moves. 

 

You're right there were some options just not much that would've moved the needle imo.

[Buffalo_Stampede]

2 minutes ago, Rc2catch said:

Snacks picked where he wanted to play though. Multiple teams asked and he shot them down. Don’t know if it was us, but it was reported he only wanted to play for Seattle. 

That's what he says. Could be. We wouldn't likely offer much money. 

[Rc2catch]

1 minute ago, Buffalo_Stampede said:

That's what he says. Could be. We wouldn't likely offer much money. 

I would think money isn’t the issue. He’s currently making like 150k on Seattle’s practice squad 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

This is the front 7 they wanted. It's likely they believe they can fix their issues in house. 

[Cruiserplayer]

5 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

Beane is 

Driver's seat! This team is defenseless and Beane knows it. Why wouldn't he make one acquisition to shore up the run defense. He's not as good as I thought.  His free agents have stunk ,and the schedule is very difficult. Obviously he thinks Bills fans are happy to just make the playoffs, but we will have to win shootouts with a shaky kicker. Good luck.

 

Beanie didn’t make the schedule.

[Hampton Josh fan]

1 minute ago, Cruiserplayer said:

Beanie didn’t make the schedule.

No, but he does control personnel and this defensive group can't stop the run and adding players is what GMs do. He also has depth issues at corner and the 2nd string receivers had their way with our dbs on Sunday. You like standing pat, fans like you give him a pass on being a stiff.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

26 minutes ago, McBean said:

Not sarcastic.

 

We have ways to go before competing for championships.

Not true.  Anyone can get healthy and make a run.  They have a young QB and enough pieces to win now.  Absolutely criminal that Beane did nothing to address the defense.  

[jkeerie]

I wanted a move like everyone here.  However I am aware that it takes two.  So realistically...who was available for trade (not wishful thinking) and what would you have parted with in compensation.  I'm asking those posting here who are castigating Beane for not making a move.

[Nitro]

Dead market.  If you have needs make do with what you have or try go try and find a  FA.  This was a media hyped event.  Much like the NHL trade deadline.

[MAJBobby]

50 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said:

I think people need to stop thinking this way.  Yes Brady took less money to help out the team, but he also could because he has a wife who makes 2-3 times what he does per year.  The players union did not like that Brady would always take less money, and they shouldn't.  As fans yes we want to see all of these guys take less money so there is more money to spread around, but these guys shouldn't be looking to take less money.  It's the GM's job to make these contracts work, not the players.  Brady is the one outlier in this whole scenario - Manning (both of them), Brees, Rodgers, Mahomes, Watson, Wilson, Big Ben.....they all got as much as they could and honestly Josh shouldn't be any different.  The players don't even like it when their teammates take less money, they want their guys to get paid.  If the QB takes less money, then management could go to everyone else and say "well Josh took less money to stay here, so should you."  So while it's a nice thought, it's not going to happen nor should it.

Doesn’t matter. A player is a player. Josh should say sure 25M a year is generational money and I can help the team with assets and flexibility to give me a better team to WIN multiple Championships. 
 

there isn’t a single person that knows how Any player will negotiate their deal. 

[Putin]

40 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

Beane is 

Driver's seat! This team is defenseless and Beane knows it. Why wouldn't he make one acquisition to shore up the run defense. He's not as good as I thought.  His free agents have stunk ,and the schedule is very difficult. Obviously he thinks Bills fans are happy to just make the playoffs, but we will have to win shootouts with a shaky kicker. Good luck.

 

Dude step away from the ledge take a chill pill and go get a hug 

Edited November 3, 2020 by Putin

[Protocal69]

I don't want to make a separate post topic but can anyone answer this question. 

 

I was listening to a recent Aaron Rodgers interview and he was being asked about if the team had any interest in bringing in any help for him at the trade deadline and he when into a Aaron Rodgers type answer but then he said something that peaked my interest. He said " THE LAST PLAYER THAT I BANGED THE TABLE FOR WENT TO THE BILLS"

 

The only one I can think of weapon wise the BILLS got during his playing career that maybe he would have wanted was Terrell Owens BUT that would have been his 2nd year starting coming off a 6-10 record. Not sure how much clout he had in the org at that point to be able to bang the table for a player

[thronethinker]

1 minute ago, Protocal69 said:

I don't want to make a separate post topic but can anyone answer this question. 

 

I was listening to a recent Aaron Rodgers interview and he was being asked about if the team had any interest in bringing in any help for him at the trade deadline and he when into a Aaron Rodgers type answer but then he said something that peaked my interest. He said " THE LAST PLAYER THAT I BANGED THE TABLE FOR WENT TO THE BILLS"

 

The only one I can think of weapon wise the BILLS got during his playing career that maybe he would have wanted was Terrell Owens BUT that would have been his 2nd year starting coming off a 6-10 record. Not sure how much clout he had in the org at that point to be able to bang the table for a player

 

 

He likely meant Diggs. 

[MAJBobby]

4 minutes ago, Protocal69 said:

I don't want to make a separate post topic but can anyone answer this question. 

 

I was listening to a recent Aaron Rodgers interview and he was being asked about if the team had any interest in bringing in any help for him at the trade deadline and he when into a Aaron Rodgers type answer but then he said something that peaked my interest. He said " THE LAST PLAYER THAT I BANGED THE TABLE FOR WENT TO THE BILLS"

 

The only one I can think of weapon wise the BILLS got during his playing career that maybe he would have wanted was Terrell Owens BUT that would have been his 2nd year starting coming off a 6-10 record. Not sure how much clout he had in the org at that point to be able to bang the table for a player

Kumerow on PS

3 minutes ago, thronethinker said:

 

 

He likely meant Diggs. 

Means the PS Kumerow 

https://fansided.com/2020/09/05/packers-cut-jake-kumerow-aaron-rodgers-backing/

[boco357]

Maybe not have deadline on election day either NFL?

[YoloinOhio]

38 minutes ago, jkeerie said:

I wanted a move like everyone here.  However I am aware that it takes two.  So realistically...who was available for trade (not wishful thinking) and what would you have parted with in compensation.  I'm asking those posting here who are castigating Beane for not making a move.

I really really didn’t want to give up picks. With the cap restraints upcoming and big ticket players I hope are signed like Milano, who I believe is a huge piece when healthy, we need to replace older expensive players in the draft. I’m glad they didn’t give up a draft pick for anyone that was being dangled because the word was teams were asking way too much for these castaways with expiring contracts. It’s a losing proposition unless you think one guy can fix all the flaws holding you back from a SB. Desmond King seems like he was a bargain. But not sure the story there. 

Edited November 3, 2020 by YoloinOhio

[billsfan89]

It was a dead market sadly. That being said there are still some decent one tech DT's that can be brought in off the street. 

[Protocal69]

22 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Kumerow on PS

Means the PS Kumerow 

https://fansided.com/2020/09/05/packers-cut-jake-kumerow-aaron-rodgers-backing/

Ok Thanks.

[YoloinOhio]

This guy seems like a turd but 

 

 

[Hampton Josh fan]

25 minutes ago, Putin said:

Dude step away from the ledge take a chill pill and go get a hug 

You're an a adorable young fan who has an oblivious mentality about Bills ineptitude for 25 years. This team has accomplished nothing since Marv Levy, who is pushing 100. You're perfectly equipped to lose in  the first rd. of the playoffs and say we had a great year. I'm not a patient, hapless observer who is accepting of poor management. 25 years is enough. Thanks for the advice though. When the good teams toy with us, you'll probably be playing video games.

[QCity]

8 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

You're an a adorable young fan who has an oblivious mentality about Bills ineptitude for 25 years. This team has accomplished nothing since Marv Levy, who is pushing 100. You're perfectly equipped to lose in  the first rd. of the playoffs and say we had a great year. I'm not a patient, hapless observer who is accepting of poor management. 25 years is enough. Thanks for the advice though. When the good teams toy with us, you'll probably be playing video games.

 

This team was never going to contend for a title this year. Step away from the ledge.

[Captain Caveman]

16 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

This guy seems like a turd but 

 

 

 

You know what they say about polishing turds...

[Hampton Josh fan]

7 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

This team was never going to contend for a title this year. Step away from the ledge.

So that's a reason to sit with the underachieving defense Beane constructed, for big money in the off season. When will this championship caliber team present itself? Limited cap space  next season, and drafting in the 20s. Loyal fans are great, but when you accept excuses for a team with a solid offense, not making in season moves to address glaring weaknesses, you're endorsing bad management. Remember, the Dolphins and Patriots will be better every year. With  a stout front seven,  we could go deep in the playoffs this year. You should be critical of impotence.

[Hapless Bills Fan]

1 hour ago, thronethinker said:

He likely meant Diggs. 

 

I could see Aaron Rodgers salivating over that trade.  The thing is, you seldom see teams trading to conference much less Division rivals.

 

1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

This guy seems like a turd but 

 

 

 

Why is he a turd?  I'm not disagreeing, I'm just unfamiliar

[Coach Tuesday]

30 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

Why is he a turd?  I'm not disagreeing, I'm just unfamiliar

Rotoworld summed it up:

 

The Titans came into the offseason desperate for pass-rushing help, but this signing seemed like a disaster from Day 1. Beasley was late to report to training camp and then proceeded to make just 3.0 tackles across five games. Tennessee is bottom-three in sacks (7.0) through eight weeks and still find Beasley worth releasing. He signed a one-year, $9.5 million contract this offseason.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

2 hours ago, Protocal69 said:

I don't want to make a separate post topic but can anyone answer this question. 

 

I was listening to a recent Aaron Rodgers interview and he was being asked about if the team had any interest in bringing in any help for him at the trade deadline and he when into a Aaron Rodgers type answer but then he said something that peaked my interest. He said " THE LAST PLAYER THAT I BANGED THE TABLE FOR WENT TO THE BILLS"

 

The only one I can think of weapon wise the BILLS got during his playing career that maybe he would have wanted was Terrell Owens BUT that would have been his 2nd year starting coming off a 6-10 record. Not sure how much clout he had in the org at that point to be able to bang the table for a player

Diggs

[Putin]

1 hour ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

You're an a adorable young fan who has an oblivious mentality about Bills ineptitude for 25 years. This team has accomplished nothing since Marv Levy, who is pushing 100. You're perfectly equipped to lose in  the first rd. of the playoffs and say we had a great year. I'm not a patient, hapless observer who is accepting of poor management. 25 years is enough. Thanks for the advice though. When the good teams toy with us, you'll probably be playing video games.

Thanks for the compliment but I wish I was a young fan , unfortunately for me I’m not that young anymore 

[Hapless Bills Fan]

17 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said:

Rotoworld summed it up:

 

The Titans came into the offseason desperate for pass-rushing help, but this signing seemed like a disaster from Day 1. Beasley was late to report to training camp and then proceeded to make just 3.0 tackles across five games. Tennessee is bottom-three in sacks (7.0) through eight weeks and still find Beasley worth releasing. He signed a one-year, $9.5 million contract this offseason.

 

Ah.  Do we know what the story was with him being late to report?

 

He hasn't been seeing a lot of offensive snaps.  125 snaps.  For $9.5M fully guaranteed.  $76,000/snap

 

Almost makes AJ Klein seem like a bargain.  At least he shows up and tries hard.

 

 

[Hampton Josh fan]

13 minutes ago, Putin said:

Thanks for the compliment but I wish I was a young fan , unfortunately for me I’m not that young anymore 

You're a good fan, we need you on that wall.

[Cruiserplayer]

3 hours ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

No, but he does control personnel and this defensive group can't stop the run and adding players is what GMs do. He also has depth issues at corner and the 2nd string receivers had their way with our dbs on Sunday. You like standing pat, fans like you give him a pass on being a stiff.

I give Beane a pass because I pointed out that he didn’t make the schedule? That was one of your complaints. Your ire should be turned elsewhere.

[Putin]

21 minutes ago, Hampton Josh fan said:

You're a good fan, we need you on that wall.

I’m sorry I can’t join your rebellion , my pitchforks and torches  have been put away and are collecting dust somewhere in the basement 

Edited November 4, 2020 by Putin

[YoloinOhio]

1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

I could see Aaron Rodgers salivating over that trade.  The thing is, you seldom see teams trading to conference much less Division rivals.

 

 

Why is he a turd?  I'm not disagreeing, I'm just unfamiliar

He signed with Tennessee as a FA In March  and then didn’t show up to anything until well into TC. They put him on the did not report list and then he finally showed up and did nothing