letsgoteam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Good for him. Dont blame anyone on choosing the Cheifs, doesnt say anything bad about the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 The rich get richer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalonian Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Well, we know how to stop him; so that should help in the AFC championship game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Don’t expect me to trash the guy because the Bills didn’t sign him, he’s a good back the Jets just suck but of course he’d go to the Chiefs over Buffalo. It’s not that the Bills aren’t desirable, it’s just that the Chiefs are coming off a Super Bowl win and as good as Daboll has been Andy Reid has consistently been one of the best for 20 years now. Obvious choice. He’ll do well there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Victory Formation said: Don’t expect me to trash the guy because the Bills didn’t sign him, he’s a good back the Jets just suck but of course he’d go to the Chiefs over Buffalo. It’s not that the Bills aren’t desirable, it’s just that the Chiefs are coming off a Super Bowl win and as good as Daboll has been Andy Reid has consistently been one of the best for 20 years now. Obvious choice. He’ll do well there. Exactly, I mean does anyone here who had to bet their house/some prized possession be willing to bet that Bills make it further then the Chiefs. I love the Bills more then anything else in sports, but gun to my head, sorry but I'm going KC. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) Man, how brutal is it that the Chiefs get to add a weapon of this caliber. I know they dropped one to the Raiders, but if Bell is half the player he was with Pittsburgh, pencil them in to repeat. Edited October 16, 2020 by BullBuchanan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 He had a great line in Pittsburgh. All that "patient runner" talk is nonsense. If you have time to be patient it means you're line is creating lanes. When given a running lane an average RB can appear great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Well, good for them! They certainly needed some more weapons........ Wait till he pulls the old hammy again and misses another quarter of the season. I hope they paid a fortune, even if it’s subsidized the first year. 2 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: He had a great line in Pittsburgh. All that "patient runner" talk is nonsense. If you have time to be patient it means you're line is creating lanes. When given a running lane an average RB can appear great. He’s certainly experienced both ends of the spectrum between the Steelers and the Jests. That looked like two different players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Man, how brutal is it that the Chiefs get to add a weapon of this caliber. I know they dropped one to the Raiders, but if Bell is half the player he was with Pittsburgh, pencil them in to repeat. Eh. KC is a great team, no question, but someone up thread had the cogent point: If Bell goes on the field, means another potent weapon has to come off for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: He hasn't been a special talent for going on 3 seasons now. He won't even be the #1 RB in KC. How much money has this guy lost through the terrible mis-management of his career? The silver lining is we can still enjoy that. He'd be on year 3 of his 5 year, $70mm deal with the undefeated Steelers by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 35 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Don’t expect me to trash the guy because the Bills didn’t sign him, he’s a good back the Jets just suck but of course he’d go to the Chiefs over Buffalo. It’s not that the Bills aren’t desirable, it’s just that the Chiefs are coming off a Super Bowl win and as good as Daboll has been Andy Reid has consistently been one of the best for 20 years now. Obvious choice. He’ll do well there. I mean, he may? Maybe it's all Gase and the Jets sucky OL. But the fact is, the last year Bell was a top back in the league was 2017. 2018, sat out. 2019, 15 games, 16 rpg, 52.6 ypg. That put him 24th in the league. Motor Singletary was 16th. Maybe it was the team and the talent surrounding him (or not surrounding him) in New Jersey, and all will be great in KC. Or maybe he's lost a step Maybe he'll get 20 or 25 or 30 carries per game. Or maybe he'll get 8 and pitch a tantrum. Time will tell. I'm not "sour grapes"ing here, really, if Beane wanted him I would be all for giving him a shot because he was a great back and maybe still is. But the whole reason he's on the market is that "maybe" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 22 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: Man, how brutal is it that the Chiefs get to add a weapon of this caliber. I know they dropped one to the Raiders, but if Bell is half the player he was with Pittsburgh, pencil them in to repeat. I don’t think he’s the difference between them repeating or not, but we will see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, RaoulDuke79 said: He had a great line in Pittsburgh. All that "patient runner" talk is nonsense. If you have time to be patient it means you're line is creating lanes. When given a running lane an average RB can appear great. I might be wrong, but I think I remember seeing a film study on espn or something showing the patience. It might have been a fluff piece but it convinced me. I have done zero film study and have only seen him play if they were playing the Bills (in general). So Im going to disagree with you, but I have little to no evidence to back me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, letsgoteam said: I might be wrong, but I think I remember seeing a film study on espn or something showing the patience. It might have been a fluff piece but it convinced me. I have done zero film study and have only seen him play if they were playing the Bills (in general). So Im going to disagree with you, but I have little to no evidence to back me up. He is a patient runner, but @RaoulDuke79 point is still valid: you can only be a patient runner if your OL is keeping defenders off you and opening holes. You'll be patient at the bottom of a pile in the backfield, else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passepartout Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 First Steelers, now Jets. Can't stick with a team. He is now Chiefs headache I hate to say it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I mean, he may? Maybe it's all Gase and the Jets sucky OL. But the fact is, the last year Bell was a top back in the league was 2017. 2018, sat out. 2019, 15 games, 16 rpg, 52.6 ypg. That put him 24th in the league. Motor Singletary was 16th. Maybe it was the team and the talent surrounding him (or not surrounding him) in New Jersey, and all will be great in KC. Or maybe he's lost a step Maybe he'll get 20 or 25 or 30 carries per game. Or maybe he'll get 8 and pitch a tantrum. Time will tell. I'm not "sour grapes"ing here, really, if Beane wanted him I would be all for giving him a shot because he was a great back and maybe still is. But the whole reason he's on the market is that "maybe" And Bell was a top back in 2017 only in terms of workload. His ypa in 2017 was 4.0.........nearly a full yard drop from his previous few seasons and below league average. 2016 was the last year where he was an elite RB....dominant in terms of workload and yards per attempt.........that's now 5 seasons ago. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Would have been an obvious upgrade here, nobody in their right mind wants Yeldon over him, so I’m sorry to see him go to the Chiefs, but not shocked, I would have made the same choice if winning was the priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: And Bell was a top back in 2017 only in terms of workload. His ypa in 2017 was 4.0.........nearly a full yard drop from his previous few seasons and below league average. 2016 was the last year where he was an elite RB....dominant in terms of workload and yards per attempt.........that's now 5 seasons ago. Valid. Last year on the Jets 3.2 ypa. Again, it's possible it's all because of Gase and the OL and the play design. It's possible that the workload in Pittsburgh was wearing him down, and he's all rested up with "fresh legs" now. But it's also possible that his dominant days are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 (edited) This is a b-word move. He shows that he has no ability to help raise a franchise and instead just goes and joins the best team in football. I hope Edwards-Hilaire outplays him and he stays as backup. Except for the Jets game. I'd love to see him go full 2016 Steelers on the Jets. And I don't think the Bills need him. If there's a mid-season top LB available, that's different. Edited October 16, 2020 by shoshin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letsgoteam Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: He is a patient runner, but @RaoulDuke79 point is still valid: you can only be a patient runner if your OL is keeping defenders off you and opening holes. You'll be patient at the bottom of a pile in the backfield, else. For sure I agree. I will also admit it seems I didnt read all the way through @RaoulDuke79 's post before I started typing. I think we are all on the same page in our beliefs on this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 28 minutes ago, shoshin said: This is a b-word move. He shows that he has no ability to help raise a franchise and instead just goes and joins the best team in football. I hope Edwards-Hilaire outplays him and he stays as backup. Except for the Jets game. I'd love to see him go full 2016 Steelers on the Jets. And I don't think the Bills need him. If there's a mid-season top LB available, that's different. Me, I'd settle for a mid-season competent contributor LB. We are mi-tee-thin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 hours ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Me, I'd settle for a mid-season competent contributor LB. We are mi-tee-thin So you don’t think Klein is the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 27 minutes ago, shoshin said: So you don’t think Klein is the answer. Depends: what was the question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 I was hoping he'd sign here but better the Chiefs than the Pats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 KC is going all in this season , next season Mahomes big contract kicks in and lower cap space for who knows how long. When Allen is due his big contract , well options need to be modest for cap purpose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. K Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 19 hours ago, Jdragon2 said: Bell is a FA and a decent back. Name a decent FA Lineman. Like I said "not that you can do too much right now" in regards to the line. Moot point now though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 Wow—the board turned on Bell mighty quick! (shocking). McBeane concluded what several posters here had days ago: this guy adds no significant value to this team because he can’t do what they need—make his own yards behind bad blocking. Plus he’s a PIA. He will be KCs next McCoy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 48 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow—the board turned on Bell mighty quick! (shocking). McBeane concluded what several posters here had days ago: this guy adds no significant value to this team because he can’t do what they need—make his own yards behind bad blocking. Plus he’s a PIA. He will be KCs next McCoy. I don’t know about that. I think Bell is pretty fresh and played for the worse offensive situation in their entire league. I can see him have a good impact for them. McCoy was our offense for years and had dead legs. Bell had barely played in 3 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I don’t know about that. I think Bell is pretty fresh and played for the worse offensive situation in their entire league. I can see him have a good impact for them. McCoy was our offense for years and had dead legs. Bell had barely played in 3 years. we’ll see. They just drafted a pass catching great running RB. I wonder how Damien Williams is feeling today about his decision to opt out of the season... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Wow—the board turned on Bell mighty quick! (shocking). McBeane concluded what several posters here had days ago: this guy adds no significant value to this team because he can’t do what they need—make his own yards behind bad blocking. Plus he’s a PIA. He will be KCs next McCoy. I was confused at first who you were talking about. Then I remembered— that guy who is now dead to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 Chiefs will pay Le’Veon Bell $690,000 in salary, up to $1 million in incentives Posted by Michael David Smith on October 17, 2020, 5:38 AM EDT If a team had traded for running back Le'Veon Bell, it would have had to pay him $6 million in salary for the rest of this season. After the Jets cut Bell, the Chiefs signed him for a lot less than that. Bell will make $690,000 in salary for the remaining 12 weeks of this season, and can earn up to $1 million in playing time and playoff incentives, according to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN. The Jets are still on the hook for the remaining $6 million in salary Bell is owed because that money was guaranteed on the contract he signed with the Jets last year. That Bell ended up taking so much less than he was owed by the Jets shows that he just can’t command that kind of money anymore, and the Jets’ attempt to trade him wasn’t going to work. Bell was once a first-team All-Pro running back, but he didn’t play at all in 2018 and hasn’t played well in 2019 or 2020. Now Bell will get an opportunity to show he still has something left in the remainder of this season with the Chiefs, and then he’ll hit free agency in 2021 — when he won’t get anything close to the money the Jets paid him. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/17/chiefs-will-pay-leveon-bell-690000-in-salary-up-to-1-million-in-incentives/#comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 5 hours ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: Chiefs will pay Le’Veon Bell $690,000 in salary, up to $1 million in incentives Posted by Michael David Smith on October 17, 2020, 5:38 AM EDT If a team had traded for running back Le'Veon Bell, it would have had to pay him $6 million in salary for the rest of this season. After the Jets cut Bell, the Chiefs signed him for a lot less than that. Bell will make $690,000 in salary for the remaining 12 weeks of this season, and can earn up to $1 million in playing time and playoff incentives, according to Jeremy Fowler of ESPN. The Jets are still on the hook for the remaining $6 million in salary Bell is owed because that money was guaranteed on the contract he signed with the Jets last year. That Bell ended up taking so much less than he was owed by the Jets shows that he just can’t command that kind of money anymore, and the Jets’ attempt to trade him wasn’t going to work. Bell was once a first-team All-Pro running back, but he didn’t play at all in 2018 and hasn’t played well in 2019 or 2020. Now Bell will get an opportunity to show he still has something left in the remainder of this season with the Chiefs, and then he’ll hit free agency in 2021 — when he won’t get anything close to the money the Jets paid him. https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/10/17/chiefs-will-pay-leveon-bell-690000-in-salary-up-to-1-million-in-incentives/#comments I was watching moneyball last night for the first time in a while. There is a scene where Billy Beane tells David Justice that the Yankees were still on the hook for $3M of his salary. And he said, “that’s how little the Yankees think of you. They’re paying you $3 million to play against them.” Pretty great line! Sort of the same with Bell— the Jets are basically paying Bell $6 mill to play against them! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I was watching moneyball last night for the first time in a while. There is a scene where Billy Beane tells David Justice that the Yankees were still on the hook for $3M of his salary. And he said, “that’s how little the Yankees think of you. They’re paying you $3 million to play against them.” Pretty great line! Sort of the same with Bell— the Jets are basically paying Bell $6 mill to play against them! ...MUST be a good idea....Adam Gase IS in complete control, right??.............. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 (edited) Can’t help but think the Bills interest was driven at least in part by lighting a fire under Devin - even if they didn’t ultimately sign him. Found it interesting that it was truly public interest given McDermott confirming it and saying he and Beane are always looking to “improve the team” Edited October 17, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 It will be interesting to see if Yeldon gets more playing time on Monday...I’d like to see what he can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, mannc said: It will be interesting to see if Yeldon gets more playing time on Monday...I’d like to see what he can do. If moss is active, which it looks like he’s healthy, have to think Yeldon won’t play ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: If moss is active, which it looks like he’s healthy, have to think Yeldon won’t play ... That would be too bad...Yeldon plays on special teams, though, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, mannc said: That would be too bad...Yeldon plays on special teams, though, right? I don’t think so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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