Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 So, watching what D.K. Metcalf has done so far this season and listening to Russell Wilson, I was looking over the 2019 draft and was thinking about our picks. Metcalf went #64 - last player chosen in Round 2. We took Ed Oliver Round 1 and Cody Ford Round 2. Would we change anything? If we took Metcalf, probably not make the trade for Diggs? Is Metcalf more "valuable" than Oliver or Ford? Thoughts?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) It made sense to go with Oliver when they did. It made no sense to pass on Metcalf for Cody Ford. Might have seen a big jump in Josh's passing LAST year had they taken DK. Also Ford being used as a guard last summer helped push Wyatt Teller off the roster.........so there is that. I understand people who say that is all hindsight but when you reach for needs early in the draft...........especially at positions of modest $ value like guard or even right tackle........sh*t happens. At least he is better than Cyrus Koundjio I guess. Edited October 9, 2020 by BADOLBILZ 15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: So, watching what D.K. Metcalf has done so far this season and listening to Russell Wilson, I was looking over the 2019 draft and was thinking about our picks. Metcalf went #64 - last player chosen in Round 2. We took Ed Oliver Round 1 and Cody Ford Round 2. Would we change anything? If we took Metcalf, probably not make the trade for Diggs? Is Metcalf more "valuable" than Oliver or Ford? Thoughts?? We mightve done a worse job developing metcalf than the Seahawks did too...these kind of comparisons are very difficult 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Houston's #1 Bills Fan Posted October 9, 2020 Author Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: We mightve done a worse job developing metcalf than the Seahawks did too...these kind of comparisons are very difficult You're saying he prefers ranch over blue cheese? Dammit! Edited October 9, 2020 by Houston's #1 Bills Fan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) I think Ford will end up being an anchor on the O-line for a long time and everyone talking smack about him doesn't really understand how long it takes OL to develop. Come on people how many times do we have to go through this? if TBD was in charge of the draft we would only ever draft WRs, QBs, TEs, and RBs because obviously those are the only players a team needs to win. This isn't Madden no matter how much our resident galaxy brain draft hindsighters want it to be Did you stop perhaps to consider that it's not just DJ Metcalf, but perhaps has something to do with Russell Wilson helping him look good? edit: and I'll take Diggs over Metcalf all day long Edited October 9, 2020 by dorquemada peel back more stupid 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: It made sense to go with Oliver when they did. It made no sense to pass on Metcalf for Cody Ford. Might have seen a big jump in Josh's passing LAST year had they taken DK. Also Ford being used as a guard last summer helped push Wyatt Teller off the roster.........so there is that. I understand people who say that is all hindsight but when you reach for needs early in the draft...........especially at positions of modest $ value like guard or even right tackle........sh*t happens. At least he is better than Cyrus Koundjio I guess. This board just isnt the same without you spitting this sort of nonsensical fire. Im glad youre back! Edited October 9, 2020 by JoshAllenHasBigHands 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whatdrought Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 @Joe in Winslow burner confirmed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Let's check back in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twist_to_open Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) And Tom Brady was the 199th pick, hindsight.....you only get it when it's too late. Edited October 9, 2020 by twist_to_open Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 In an ideal fantasy world we would have Oliver, DK Metcalf and still traded for Diggs. But such revisionist thought is pointless and not productive. Im really happy with what we have now and how its played out. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 We wouldn't have traded for Diggs. I love Diggs. Everything has been perfect. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: We mightve done a worse job developing metcalf than the Seahawks did too...these kind of comparisons are very difficult That's record time for the old "I love our coaching staff but we all know they can't develop players like everyone else" response. Well played. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) Why do people insist on doing this, repeatedly? What is the purpose, self flagellation? We go to to ANY draft and see what gems we missed. Edited October 9, 2020 by RoyBatty is alive 6 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 I didn't think he would be good because I thought he was a one trick pony. Now I certainly wish we had him over Ford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: I didn't think he would be good because I thought he was a one trick pony. Now I certainly wish we had him over Ford. That was pretty much the universal theme at TBD, he can only lift weights and run in a straight line, he purposely didn't do the cone drill, etc etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, RoyBatty is alive said: We do people insist on doing this, repeatedly? What is the purpose, self flagellation? We go to to ANY draft and see what gems we missed. Only a few of us were ahead of the curve on THAT pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 ... and behind the curve on the Oliver pick... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Only a few of us were ahead of the curve on THAT pick. yeah you were smarter than 31 NFL teams. I'd love to see the rest of your board 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Only a few of us were ahead of the curve on THAT pick. What a brilliant fella you must be. I would have picked Russel Wilson before he was picked, if he was one inch taller he would have been a top 10 pick imo. So what awards do you and i get beyond useless bragging on an anonymous Bills chatroom. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yav Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Metcalf will be the next David Boston and I believe it’s the biggest reason the Bills passed on him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllenHasBigHands Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Im pretty sure teams passed on him because they were convinced he had a steroid problem. It wasnt about talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Joe Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 We got this Gabe Davis kid this year. I'm good. 4 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 We could have traded back a few times to the last pick in the second round and drafted Metcalf. THen all the picks we traded back with we can look at the draft now and see who the best players were at those spots and lets say we have them too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Yav said: Metcalf will be the next David Boston and I believe it’s the biggest reason the Bills passed on him. He could be, his story is hardly complete at this point and his current incredibly built frame might not last very long. I always marveled at David Boston, thought he would b a real star for years. Just now, Yav said: Metcalf will be the next David Boston and I believe it’s the biggest reason the Bills passed on him. He could be, his story is hardly complete at this point and his current incredibly built frame might not last very long. I always marveled at David Boston, thought he would b a real star for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Imagine rooting for an undefeated team with a franchise QB and nothing but a bright future ahead of it, and wringing your hands over a second round pick from two years ago. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, mattynh said: We could have traded back a few times to the last pick in the second round and drafted Metcalf. THen all the picks we traded back with we can look at the draft now and see who the best players were at those spots and lets say we have them too. yeah really lets not even bother watching the Bills as they are today, let's instead imagine if we min/max'd every single draft, won every coin flip, got every call, and married every pretty girl, then we can argue about it on the internet 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 While most can agree Metcalf would have been a better pick than Ford, it’s important to note that Metcalf on the Bills likely means no trade for Diggs. Seeing how well Diggs is playing for the Bills, how much his presence improves the team overall, and that the Bills currently sit 4-0 and have a top 5 offense, I’m happy with the way things turned out. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 1 minute ago, Logic said: While most can agree Metcalf would have been a better pick than Ford, it’s important to note that Metcalf on the Bills likely means no trade for Diggs. Seeing how well Diggs is playing for the Bills, how much his presence improves the team overall, and that the Bills currently sit 4-0 and have a top 5 offense, I’m happy with the way things turned out. Yes things turned out OK. But no one can say he wasn't worth a top 10 pick, let alone a pick in the second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Joe in Winslow said: Yes things turned out OK. But no one can say he wasn't worth a top 10 pick, let alone a pick in the second. Would you prefer that the Bills had picked him rather than Oliver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Uncle Joe said: We got this Gabe Davis kid this year. I'm good. Same here. I also like how our entire group of Wide Receivers look. I look forward to seeing Isaiah Hodgins getting some playing time. If you people want to keep lamenting on DK Metcalf, go ahead. I really like how our team looks right now, and I think Beane and McDermott overall have made some very good personnel decisions. Edited October 9, 2020 by Mark Vader 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 Just now, Logic said: Would you prefer that the Bills had picked him rather than Oliver? I'm pretty sure everyone here knows the answer to that question. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Yes things turned out OK. But no one can say he wasn't worth a top 10 pick, let alone a pick in the second. I'm going to say right here right now that DKM was not and is not worth a top 10 pick. That's just crazy talk. He's playing well in a top offense, but put him on a bottom feeder team and maybe even you wouldnt spend your life pining for him. Just picture Darnold and Flacco throwing to him and see if you're still hot and bothered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I'm pretty sure everyone here knows the answer to that question. I don’t, or else I wouldn’t have asked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 In one thread we're talking about trading Wyatt Teller as a mistake, and in this thread we're saying Ford is definitely a worse pick than Metcalf. Let's wait and see what happens. At guard Ford has been fine and the receiving corps right now is the best position group on the team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: In one thread we're talking about trading Wyatt Teller as a mistake, and in this thread we're saying Ford is definitely a worse pick than Metcalf. Let's wait and see what happens. At guard Ford has been fine and the receiving corps right now is the best position group on the team. 4-0, Top five offense, best team In a quarter century...and we’re talking about the guard and WR that got away. Bills fans gonna Bills fan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 9 minutes ago, Logic said: I don’t, or else I wouldn’t have asked. I was possibly the number ONE proponent of Metcalf in that draft and would have taken him with our first pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 (edited) I hoping to snag DK in the 4th round but it didn't work out Edited October 9, 2020 by HOUSE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 43 minutes ago, RoyBatty is alive said: What a brilliant fella you must be. I would have picked Russel Wilson before he was picked, if he was one inch taller he would have been a top 10 pick imo. So what awards do you and i get beyond useless bragging on an anonymous Bills chatroom. That's enough for me, I don't know about you. I like being right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 27 minutes ago, Logic said: I don’t, or else I wouldn’t have asked. There was a lot written at draft time, he is not a team player. I bet he hit FA and signs with the highest bidder no matter which team makes the offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted October 9, 2020 Share Posted October 9, 2020 C'mon, REALLY??? You're going to start second guessing the front office that's gotten us to 4-0, and what could be a deep playoff run?? "Trust the process", Mafioso!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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