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Since there are few to no fans, you would think they could keep the schedule dynamic and attempt to make bye adaptable to at least cover one instance for each team, just thinking out loud without really understanding the complexity.

 

My main concern now is what to do about JuJu on my FFB

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Isn’t this why everyone has extra PS guys? Sit these players and staff out, test the remaining players and staff and move forward, next man up.

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Per an epidemiologist on the timing of the rescheduled game:



In his view, the Titans should not play on Sunday. You have to operate as if there is an outbreak and wait the virus out. Their infection clock should start on Monday -- the last day they had contact with infected personnel. Playing on Sunday would allow just six days for the infections to show up, which is a significant risk -- it's a short period of time, and rushing back too soon is what got the St. Louis Cardinals in trouble. People tend to test positive five to seven days after being exposed, so it's entirely possible someone on the field will in fact be infectious despite clear test results leading into the game. Now, the NFL has said they're postponing the Titans-Steelers game to Monday or Tuesday, which would provide at least a seven-day gap from the last point of potential infection. Provided there was a rapid point-of-contact test given on Monday and no positive tests were recorded, Binney said that would help tip the scales from "a very real chance more cases could pop up" to "arguably a good chance no more cases pop up" -- a significant shift in the risk-versus-reward ratio.

The Vikings, on the other hand, are in a slightly different boat, as they have not yet had any positive tests. If nothing happens in the first five days, Binney says, then there probably will not be an outbreak. That would mean if there are no positive tests by Friday, the Vikings could get back to normal operations and play their game against the Texans, albeit with minimal practice.


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I'm not too sure if this has been given much emphasis before, but if I was the Vikings, I'd want my game delayed also, just so they can get proper preparation for it, as they have been an 'innocent' party in all of this, and still having to play against someone Sunday, imho, unfairly penalizes them through less preparation. Maybe put their game on Monday, and the Titans game Tuesday.

 

The trouble with all of this, is that teams who haven't done anything wrong, are going to be collateral damage as they try and progress the season.

 

The NFL may have to 'make an example' somehere soon, otherwise they could well be making a rod for their own back in respect of trying to re-schedule games every darn week.

 

I'd say that the NFL also needs to explain to teams, how they are going to approach this type of situation, so teams can put in place some sort of plans on how to deal with late changes to their schedule.

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1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Agreed, when it's already a short week No Way to a flex

 

 

Be patient with us all, we're all just doing our best to figure out the smoothest way to handle these things...

Unless bills chiefs goes back to Sunday. 
 

slide 3 games by a couple days to get semi normal weeks isn’t tooooo crazy without many fans in play. 
 

probably won’t happen though.

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8 hours ago, NoSaint said:

Unless bills chiefs goes back to Sunday. 
 

slide 3 games by a couple days to get semi normal weeks isn’t tooooo crazy without many fans in play. 
 

probably won’t happen though.

 

Can't imagine they would drop the only Thursday night game scheduled that day.

 

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On 9/29/2020 at 12:43 PM, ILBillsfan said:

Teams have to get tight on personnel and players on not leaving the hotels when they travel... That was the main finding and reason behind baseball having issues with COVID.  players were not staying in there hotel rooms and going out and about

 

Or bringing in rent-a-girls but I have been told by an ex-player that athletes can find hotel personnel who will give "personal service" if they are willing to pay enough.

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The story from the Viking side is that a titans PS player tested positive for Covid on Saturday before the team left for Minnesota. Obviously that player didn’t travel but that player had been in contact with a coach who then held meeting with other players in close quarters, no mask. No tests are done on Sundays. The positives then showed up on Monday. If true, could have been contained to the coach if he followed protocol and wore a mask. Also, vrabel said the players were experiencing symptoms. That means a Longer time frame that they will need to sit out. They aren’t impact players but interesting nonetheless. 
 

this came from a podcast with Chris Spielman who I’m assuming got this info from his brother.

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6 hours ago, Rubes said:

 

Can't imagine they would drop the only Thursday night game scheduled that day.

 


rubes, my man, You could put any game you want that day was my point. 
 

There was discussion of rearranging what weeks teams would be playing and having byes. flip flopping what day people play in a weekend would be much smaller impact if they wanted to slide things that way 

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On 9/30/2020 at 11:25 AM, DrDare said:

you guys are silly. if they postpone it, it will be to later in the year not 1 or 2 days

 

On 9/30/2020 at 11:26 AM, eball said:

 

Silly or not, the report is that the game will likely be played Monday or Tuesday.

On 9/30/2020 at 11:29 AM, scribo said:

Postponing until later in the year simply does not work. Do that now and you have to do it again later when another team gets positive cases. What if that's in Week 15? Just not possible then. The league put a lot of new tweaks, such as the expanded practice squad, so this is something teams can play through.

 

Shall I add my own apology forms to Josh Allen's

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3 hours ago, SCBills said:

Interesting that one more positive player test results in this...  

 

What's the point of the expanded PS, if 5 players testing positive leads to this?

The point is next week those players might still be out but they can play us after making sure no one else has it.

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5 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

The point is next week those players might still be out but they can play us after making sure no one else has it.

What if nobody else tests positive tomorrow or Saturday?  They could have just pulled up a couple guys off their practice squad, practiced Sunday and played the game Monday or Tuesday, and then played us as well.  

 

It just seems like this is exactly what the expanded practice squad was for..  Now, obviously, if more cases arise and it becomes a full blown outbreak, well then they are a mess regardless. 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, SCBills said:

What if nobody else tests positive tomorrow or Saturday?  They could have just pulled up a couple guys off their practice squad, practiced Sunday and played the game Monday or Tuesday, and then played us as well.  

 

It just seems like this is exactly what the expanded practice squad was for..  Now, obviously, if more cases arise and it becomes a full blown outbreak, well then they are a mess regardless. 

 

 

its that ten days incubation where potentially you could by asymptomatic that makes rescheduling for later in the year more sense as they had an additional positive come in and there could be more.

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3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

What if nobody else tests positive tomorrow or Saturday?  They could have just pulled up a couple guys off their practice squad, practiced Sunday and played the game Monday or Tuesday, and then played us as well.  

 

It just seems like this is exactly what the expanded practice squad was for..  Now, obviously, if more cases arise and it becomes a full blown outbreak, well then they are a mess regardless. 

 

 

The practice squad guys is because this thing can knock people out for at least a month the rescheduling is to nip this in the but so they can keep playing other teams.

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5 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said:

its that ten days incubation where potentially you could by asymptomatic that makes rescheduling for later in the year more sense as they had an additional positive come in and there could be more.

 

I get that, but that doesn't really apply here.  The game was going to happen Monday or Tuesday if nobody else tested positive.  The incubation period still applies when guys tested positive yesterday. 

 

I agree they'd have to postpone if more tested positive after today... i'm simply saying I would've waited to see if that happened.

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25 minutes ago, SCBills said:

 

I get that, but that doesn't really apply here.  The game was going to happen Monday or Tuesday if nobody else tested positive.  The incubation period still applies when guys tested positive yesterday. 

 

I agree they'd have to postpone if more tested positive after today... i'm simply saying I would've waited to see if that happened.

it did happen

 

The Pittsburgh-Tennessee game scheduled for Week 4 will be rescheduled to later this season after one additional Titans player and one personnel member tested positive for COVID-19 today. An announcement of the new game date will be made shortly.

The decision to postpone the game was made to ensure the health and safety of players, coaches and game day personnel. The Titans facility will remain closed and the team will continue to have no in-person activities until further notice.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, ILBillsfan said:

it did happen

 

The Pittsburgh-Tennessee game scheduled for Week 4 will be rescheduled to later this season after one additional Titans player and one personnel member tested positive for COVID-19 today. An announcement of the new game date will be made shortly.

The decision to postpone the game was made to ensure the health and safety of players, coaches and game day personnel. The Titans facility will remain closed and the team will continue to have no in-person activities until further notice.

 

 

 

 

We're not discussing the same thing.  I know they moved the game.   You're saying they did so, potentially, because of the incubation period... They did not postpone due to that... because they were going to play Monday night if there were no positive tests today.

 

 

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Just now, SCBills said:

 

We're not discussing the same thing.  I know they moved the game.   You're saying they did so, potentially, because of the incubation period... They did not... because they were going to play Monday night if there were no positive tests today.

gotcha yeah some misunderstanding

 

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1 hour ago, SCBills said:

What if nobody else tests positive tomorrow or Saturday?  They could have just pulled up a couple guys off their practice squad, practiced Sunday and played the game Monday or Tuesday, and then played us as well.  

 

It just seems like this is exactly what the expanded practice squad was for..  Now, obviously, if more cases arise and it becomes a full blown outbreak, well then they are a mess regardless. 

 

 


 

Not to argue much, but it would not matter if no else tested positive tomorrow or Saturday (the additional positive today changed the dynamic) - that was not the issue as far as I understand it for postponing the game.

 

They identified contacts and some of those people tested positive on Monday.  If it had stopped there - the plan was to keep the facility closed until Saturday - do a deep clean - and play Monday or Tuesday.  As additional people came up positive later in the week - that suggested there was more spread and the NFL deemed they need to wait a longer period to ensure they are not missing people that were exposed and are infectious before they test positive.

 

They really need to give a minimum of  3-5 days from the last positive to give people potentially exposed time to become positive because the timings overlap (infectious versus testing positive).  Therefore - with the additional positives they are looking at closing the facilities until Monday or Tuesday of next week and are asking the players not to get together with each other at all to prevent additional spread.  That timeframe could get further extended - including cancelling our game if more tests come back positive later this week or early next week.

 

The Practice Squad is designed to be used once they get the outbreak under control and that has not yet been determined.  Once they are sure they have everything contained - they can begin the utilization of the PS players, but they cannot do anything until they are positive the outbreak is contained and the impacted players are quarantined.  They will have a good feeling on that by Monday or Tuesday if the latest positive is the last - if more come up - it will be a fight to get them back in play.

 

The interesting part is the Steelers really get screwed here as their Bye week is shifted forward and they might have to play Baltimore and Tennessee back to back - 2 very physical games.

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1 hour ago, DrDare said:

 

 

Shall I add my own apology forms to Josh Allen's

My view is not changed by the NFL's dumb decision today. Hopefully, this will be the one and only outbreak this season. But if it is not, the NFL will regret today.

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The Titans are scheduled to host Buffalo (3-0) on Oct. 11 depending on the results of daily testing.


 

With the two new cases, the Titans’ total is now 12: five players and seven other organization members since last Saturday. Vrabel said he's very confident the Titans have followed the contact tracing protocol to identify anyone at risk from being close together.
 

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1 minute ago, SlimShady'sSpaceForce said:

The Titans are scheduled to host Buffalo (3-0) on Oct. 11 depending on the results of daily testing.


 

With the two new cases, the Titans’ total is now 12: five players and seven other organization members since last Saturday. Vrabel said he's very confident the Titans have followed the contact tracing protocol to identify anyone at risk from being close together.
 

I have zero confidence in that Neanderthal leading the way on this. 

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