TroutDog Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 27 minutes ago, ngbills said: Why is it so hard for folks to have a normal discussion? It has to be flipped to it being about Allen, something personal or we won so shut up. I dont have anything to add about Oliver because I did not notice him. I would have to go back and rewatch the game to see what how he played. Maybe played very well and was handling double teams all game. I dont know. But why can someone not ask this without it being some attack on the Bills. So sensitive. Almost all that was said on page one was in good fun. The point is: the D line was solid and to most it was clear simply by watching the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, JustWinPlease said: Love the excuses for why a 2nd round pick couldn't make the field, as if he's an UDFA. You just further show how little you seem to understand the fundamentals of football with this crusade to prove AJE is a bust and your inability to understand any of the reality of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, JustWinPlease said: Love the excuses for why a 2nd round pick couldn't make the field, as if he's an UDFA. Curious: were there any other players drafted higher than AJE that didn’t play a snap yesterday despite being completely healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 My father once got mad at my brother and called him a stupid inbred m-fer. Wouldn't that reflect more on my father than my brother 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Please back up your OP instead of dropping a turd and coming back to complain about the flies. Keep that comment in your holster for future threads! 2 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Curious: were there any other players drafted higher than AJE that didn’t play a snap yesterday despite being completely healthy? In the vast scheme of things it doesn't matter. AJE was drafted to replace DEs next year NOT to fill an immediate need this year. If Murphy was traded/released he would dress but the Bills are playing to win this season. It's one game of the young mans entire career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jletha Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 From Joe B.'s article: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nuncha Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, GreggTX said: I am officially 'concerned' about Ed Oliver. I haven't given up on him, but all we got out of him was an assisted tackle. That's it. Zimmer played better. Hughes played better. Trent Murphy probably had the best game of any of our DL. Harrison Phillips did not play well either, though I wonder if he's 100%. Edmunds and Milano both dinged. It's not time to hit the panic button, but Oliver needs to start playing at a much higher level or he's going to make me miss Lotulelei. No issues with big Ed. He's filling those gaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, GreggTX said: I am officially 'concerned' about Ed Oliver. I haven't given up on him, but all we got out of him was an assisted tackle. That's it. Zimmer played better. Hughes played better. Trent Murphy probably had the best game of any of our DL. Harrison Phillips did not play well either, though I wonder if he's 100%. Edmunds and Milano both dinged. It's not time to hit the panic button, but Oliver needs to start playing at a much higher level or he's going to make me miss Lotulelei. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 31 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: You just knew there were going to be silly threads today...it would not be TSW if not. And boy did I miss it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, FLFan said: You should rewatch the game. He did not get the stats but he was a consistent factor in pushing Darnold out of the pocket and rerouting running backs. You surely know that stats are the only measure of how the DL plays.......Oliver had poor stats so he played poor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I think a lot of people, when looking at DT, only really look at the stat line for sacks. Sacks are great, but they're not the only metric. Darnold was pressured all game. Probably the biggest knock on him was that he was constantly fleeing the pocket, and it's true. If the QB is constantly fleeing the pocket, that means the DL are doing their jobs. It also means the defensive tackles, on the inside, are going to have fewer sacks. Ed Oliver may not have looked elite yesterday, but he was by no means a weak link, or a liability. He played really well-- the entire line did. (That includes H. Phillips, IMO, although he didn't really see the field very much, IIRC.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: I think a lot of people, when looking at DT, only really look at the stat line for sacks. Sacks are great, but they're not the only metric. Darnold was pressured all game. Probably the biggest knock on him was that he was constantly fleeing the pocket, and it's true. If the QB is constantly fleeing the pocket, that means the DL are doing their jobs. It also means the defensive tackles, on the inside, are going to have fewer sacks. Ed Oliver may not have looked elite yesterday, but he was by no means a weak link, or a liability. He played really well-- the entire line did. (That includes H. Phillips, IMO, although he didn't really see the field very much, IIRC.) I was told he was another Aaron Donald. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Oliver was in Darnold's lap from the very first drive. Disrupted him up the middle all day. But ok. But ... but .... SACKS!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Wierd game. Our outside pass rushers put tons of pressure on Darnold forcing him up in the pocket. Yet our DT's got very little push yesterday. There were sacks for the taking if we pushed the middle more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: I am officially 'concerned' about Ed Oliver. I haven't given up on him, but all we got out of him was an assisted tackle. That's it. Zimmer played better. Hughes played better. Trent Murphy probably had the best game of any of our DL. Harrison Phillips did not play well either, though I wonder if he's 100%. Edmunds and Milano both dinged. It's not time to hit the panic button, but Oliver needs to start playing at a much higher level or he's going to make me miss Lotulelei. Must.....resist.....urge.....to......rage....response You are entitled to your opinion 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I was told he was another Aaron Donald. Bummer. I was told he was another DK Metcalf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 56 minutes ago, GreggTX said: I wonder ...about how people watch a game. Darnold had no pocket to step up into throughout the game. His eyes were often on the pass rush rather than downfield (unlike Allen). That's a damn effective way to reduce any QBs effectiveness, let alone one susceptible to seeing ghosts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, K-9 said: I was told he was another DK Metcalf If only. Metcalf reeled in a 40-yarder yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 26 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: Curious: were there any other players drafted higher than AJE that didn’t play a snap yesterday despite being completely healthy? Without going through the entire list, I can think of at least 3; two of them from the first six picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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