TigerJ Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Governor Cuomo says persons coming to NY State from high risk COVID-19 states have to quarantine for 14 days. With Josh Allen practicing in Florida, this is an issue as Florida is one of the states being named. An article in Buffalo Rumblings suggests players might want to start coming to Buffalo now to get their quarantine done before training camp. I wonder if the Bills could negotiate with the state and have the state consider that training camp itself will qualify as a quarantine. The Bills might have to make some housing arrangements other than having players stay in their homes, so they can be kind of an isolated community. Here's the Buffalo Rumblings article: New COVID-19 Quarantine Could Impact Buffalo Bills Training Camp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 How will this even be monitored by the state of ny 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I'll drive down and get him. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 52 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: How will this even be monitored by the state of ny I had a friend who is a transporter. A few months ago he picked up a run where he flew to Texas to pick up the load. He had to give the place he was staying to a cop, Marshall, whatever, for random checks to quarantine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 56 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: How will this even be monitored by the state of ny Well, in RI apparently they set up roadblocks to inform everyone coming into the state they had to quarantine, and likewise informed arriving air passengers. I don't know if they will follow up and check or enforce it. I kind of doubt they really have the contact-tracing manpower, but if the covid-19 cases in state stay low, maybe they do. 1 hour ago, TigerJ said: Governor Cuomo says persons coming to NY State from high risk COVID-19 states have to quarantine for 14 days. With Josh Allen practicing in Florida, this is an issue as Florida is one of the states being named. An article in Buffalo Rumblings suggests players might want to start coming to Buffalo now to get their quarantine done before training camp. I wonder if the Bills could negotiate with the state and have the state consider that training camp itself will qualify as a quarantine. The Bills might have to make some housing arrangements other than having players stay in their homes, so they can be kind of an isolated community. Here's the Buffalo Rumblings article: New COVID-19 Quarantine Could Impact Buffalo Bills Training Camp Josh Allen in CA currently, though not sure that's better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I’ve heard from friends who said the Florida border was backed up for miles trying to keep those New Yorkers out. You can’t “make them” quarantine once there, but you can discourage the move. Now the tables have turned. What a mess...... You can find webcams at almost any site you are curious about that will show you irresponsible behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Well Hapless, good point, but RI is basically a postage stamp compared to the geography of NYS. Just thinking of the borders, it would be almost impossible to have borders on every front entering the state. I don’t even live in NY anymore, but cuomo seems like he likes the microphone. Nothing against him at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 12 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Well Hapless, good point, but RI is basically a postage stamp compared to the geography of NYS. Just thinking of the borders, it would be almost impossible to have borders on every front entering the state. I don’t even live in NY anymore, but cuomo seems like he likes the microphone. Nothing against him at all. So the states are Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Arizona, Washington, Florida, and Utah? I would assume they would focus efforts on airports if they want to advise people to quarantine or get address/contact info - maybe try to get them to be tested. Not likely too many people driving into NYS from Texas, Arizona, Utah and Washington. More from the Carolinas, Bama and Florida For the rest, I would assume they would focus on checkpointing the interstates, not on trying to "wall off" the entire border. That's what, maybe 12-15 interstates/major US hwys? And yeah, NYS is bigger than RI but also has more resources, and RI has 6-8 interstates. They'll miss people but it's a numbers game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: So the states are Alabama, Arkansas, Texas, North Carolina, South Carolina, Arizona, Washington, Florida, and Utah? I would assume they would focus efforts on airports if they want to advise people to quarantine or get address/contact info - maybe try to get them to be tested. Not too many people driving into NYS from Texas, Arizona, Utah and Washington For the rest, I would assume they would focus on checkpointing the interstates, not on trying to "wall off" the entire border. That's what, maybe 12-15 interstates/major US hwys? And yeah, NYS is bigger than RI but also has more resources, and RI has 6-8 interstates. On a humorous note, my sister’s family would do ALL those drives! They once drove 6 hours out of their way to drive thru Utah on a trip out west....so they could check Utah off of their list of states. They have checked off all the states multiple times and are now working countries and continents. They are driving from Wisconsin to Atlanta this weekend so the BIL can hook up the gas grill we gave to their daughters. Every family has something like that. Right??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 2 hours ago, TigerJ said: Governor Cuomo says persons coming to NY State from high risk COVID-19 states have to quarantine for 14 days. With Josh Allen practicing in Florida, this is an issue as Florida is one of the states being named. An article in Buffalo Rumblings suggests players might want to start coming to Buffalo now to get their quarantine done before training camp. I wonder if the Bills could negotiate with the state and have the state consider that training camp itself will qualify as a quarantine. The Bills might have to make some housing arrangements other than having players stay in their homes, so they can be kind of an isolated community. Here's the Buffalo Rumblings article: New COVID-19 Quarantine Could Impact Buffalo Bills Training Camp the BR article doesn’t state when training camps are scheduled to begin, which is the end of July. Allen and any other Bill has plenty of time to come back and, if necessary, quarantine for the 14 days and be ready to go when training camp begins. Thanks for the link, but I’m not sure what the problem is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 We have a 14 day quarantine we've been implementing in Hawai'i since this started. Pretty easy because the only way in is by air... at least once the cruise ships were quickly turned away. Mainland quarantines would be impossible since you can easily drive across state lines. People will break these rules more than they will follow them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: How will this even be monitored by the state of ny Especially after we defund all the police Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 My sister and her husband are driving in from Dallas on July 1 and this is a big concern now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mailman Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 10 hours ago, Mango said: I had a friend who is a transporter. A few months ago he picked up a run where he flew to Texas to pick up the load. He had to give the place he was staying to a cop, Marshall, whatever, for random checks to quarantine. Correct. I live in TX and anytime you get off a plane from a place listed in the Governor's executive order (New York, Jersey, Miami, Atlanta, Washington, California, etc) Troopers were waiting at bottom of the jet bridge with self quarantine paperwork. It's been a real pain for essential work travel. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, Buffalo619 said: We all see what’s going on here. They can’t enforce a quarantine to everyone entering the state. It will be honor code only and nobody respects the govt so as Americans, we do what we want. “Doing what we want” without regard to the virus and others health is the problem, wouldn’t you think? Could you imagine today’s Americans living through the restrictions put on our society during the WWII era? Today’s Americans would be having a non stop temper tantrum, and we would likely lose that war. Just like we are currently losing the fight against this virus, sad really, to many Americans just can’t be bothered to pitch in for the common good. Edited June 25, 2020 by Don Otreply 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halloween Land Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: “Doing what we want” without regard to others health is the problem, wouldn’t you think? From my perspective it is stunning how little Americans care about each others health, when it comes to this virus, could you imagine today’s Americans living through the restrictions of the WWII era? Today’s Americans would be having a non stop temper tantrum, and we would likely lose the war. Yeah but if people want to take a vacation then they have a right too. Like I plan on going to Hershey PA in July and when I enter back to NY State, I don't plan on quarantining. No need to coming from PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Halloween Land said: Yeah but if people want to take a vacation then they have a right too. Like I plan on going to Hershey PA in July and when I enter back to NY State, I don't plan on quarantining. No need to coming from PA. And this is my point, I mean if “WE” want to contain and beat this virus we ALL need to pitch in and do the right thing or we are saying I’m not willing to help out?? Yes it’s harder to do the right thing to help out our fellow country men and women, but some sacrifice is needed if “WE” do not want to spread this virus to our loved ones and neighbors, including our neighboring states. It begs the questioned, Are we a united country anymore? Do we as “Americans” care about each other? If not what have we become? Edited June 25, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 This seems like it could be a rare good use for a toll plaza? Which NYS just happens to have an abundance of. Shut off EZ pass except for residents with NY registered addresses. Make everyone else provide information on where they are quarantining for random checks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halloween Land Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 11 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: And this is my point, I mean if “WE” want to contain and beat this virus we ALL need to pitch in and do the right thing or we are saying I’m not willing to help out?? Yes it’s harder to do the right thing to help out our fellow country men and women, but some sacrifice is needed if “WE” do not want to spread this virus to our loved ones and neighbors, including our neighboring states. It begs the questioned, Are we a united country anymore? Do we as “Americans” care about each other? If not what have we become? I don't see a big deal with taking a family to an amusement park, they are opening up anyway, it's time to have a little fun. If you want to stay in your house all summer then so be it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 12 hours ago, TigerJ said: Governor Cuomo says persons coming to NY State from high risk COVID-19 states have to quarantine for 14 days. With Josh Allen practicing in Florida, this is an issue as Florida is one of the states being named. An article in Buffalo Rumblings suggests players might want to start coming to Buffalo now to get their quarantine done before training camp. I wonder if the Bills could negotiate with the state and have the state consider that training camp itself will qualify as a quarantine. The Bills might have to make some housing arrangements other than having players stay in their homes, so they can be kind of an isolated community. Here's the Buffalo Rumblings article: New COVID-19 Quarantine Could Impact Buffalo Bills Training Camp Can't see how training camp would suffice as JA for example would be intermingling with others who stayed in WNY, McD for example, plus exposing himself to all the staff, ball boys, etc. Maybe they'll give a few days credit for training camp, if kept out of main stream? I'd think the simple answer is, get here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 Just another feather in the cap of no football come the fall. I admire everyone's continued optimism, but this dream is ded like Zed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted June 25, 2020 Author Share Posted June 25, 2020 I haven't seen NY's quarantine state list, but I suspect it includes Florida, Texas, Arizona, and California among others. For NFL players, quarantining at home can be a big issue, if you don't have fitness equipment in your home. Two weeks is long enough to mess with your conditioning, and that can be a factor in training camp injuries. I realize that training camp as a quarantine would be imperfect. Players and staff will have traveled from states both on and off the states quarantine list, and some will not have traveled at all, and all will be mingling at camp, but besides that, it could be relatively self contained. The team could contract with a local hotel to provide lodging for team personnel only. Everybody rides the team bus to OBD in the morning. Players get tested daily for a couple weeks. They eat together, meet together, go through workouts and drills together. While there is mingling among them, they would be a completely self contained group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, PetermansRedemption said: This seems like it could be a rare good use for a toll plaza? Which NYS just happens to have an abundance of. Shut off EZ pass except for residents with NY registered addresses. Make everyone else provide information on where they are quarantining for random checks. I’ve driven Charlotte to Buffalo at least 60 times in the last 22 years. Last time was two weeks ago for a Black Lake Fishing trip( Canada fly-in got cancelled). The tolls didn’t even have people in them at 50% of the ones I passed through. Also, you could just get off in PA and take a back road. I second Don’s opinion that people simply do what they want and screw everyone else. I also don’t think there is ANY way that NFL players aren’t getting let in. I am slowly coming around to this season might actually not happen..... and I HATE the thought? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Halloween Land said: I don't see a big deal with taking a family to an amusement park, they are opening up anyway, it's time to have a little fun. If you want to stay in your house all summer then so be it. And that’s the point, this virus is spreading because “WE” are spreading it by doing things like going to the amusement park or any other gathering of people, the odds are high that you or one of your family members may become infected in that environment god forbid, two Secret service agents caught the virus at the Tulsa political rally and a total of twelve or fourteen are in quarantine, along with six Republican staffers. Do the right thing for you and the others around you. Please. Nuthin but luv dude. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: And that’s the point, this virus is spreading because “WE” are spreading it by doing things like going to the amusement park or any other gathering of people, the odds are high that you or one of your family members may become infected in that environment god forbid, two Secret service agents caught the virus at the Tulsa political rally and a total of twelve or fourteen are in quarantine, along with six Republican staffers. Do the right thing for you and the others around you. Please. Nuthin but luv dude. When can we resume normal activities King Don O? July 2021? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CLTbills Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 13 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: How will this even be monitored by the state of ny You can't. I drove to florida this past weekend and they have a Covid checkpoint that you have to drive through. They're looking for people with NY, NJ, and CT tags. But what the hell are they going to do? Tell you that you have to go into quarantine? OK. They can't cuff you and force you. Its a gigantic waste of time and resources. Aggravating as all hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 15 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: And that’s the point, this virus is spreading because “WE” are spreading it by doing things like going to the amusement park or any other gathering of people, the odds are high that you or one of your family members may become infected in that environment god forbid, two Secret service agents caught the virus at the Tulsa political rally and a total of twelve or fourteen are in quarantine, along with six Republican staffers. Do the right thing for you and the others around you. Please. Nuthin but luv dude. The people who decide to go to the amusement park, then the next week decide to go to the grocery store without a mask (because that is their “right”) effectively took me to the amusement park with them. I don’t want to go to the amusement park! Gee, thanks. Just now, CLTbills said: You can't. I drove to florida this past weekend and they have a Covid checkpoint that you have to drive through. They're looking for people with NY, NJ, and CT tags. But what the hell are they going to do? Tell you that you have to go into quarantine? OK. They can't cuff you and force you. Its a gigantic waste of time and resources. Aggravating as all hell. I think they do try to discourage people, because you’re right...there is really nothing they can control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 123719bwiqrb said: Just another feather in the cap of no football come the fall. I admire everyone's continued optimism, but this dream is ded like Zed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Canadian Bills Fan said: Trust me, I am slapping myself daily. Oh wait, not that kind of... nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 I think this is more about shaming states that aren’t doing their part than being able to enforce anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halloween Land Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 28 minutes ago, Augie said: The people who decide to go to the amusement park, then the next week decide to go to the grocery store without a mask (because that is their “right”) effectively took me to the amusement park with them. I don’t want to go to the amusement park! Gee, thanks. I get your point but that's how life has been for ever, germs are everywhere, they can't be avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 31 minutes ago, Augie said: The people who decide to go to the amusement park, then the next week decide to go to the grocery store without a mask (because that is their “right”) effectively took me to the amusement park with them. I don’t want to go to the amusement park! Gee, thanks. I think they do try to discourage people, because you’re right...there is really nothing they can control. So, for how long do people need to stay inside and also businesses not opening? This virus will be with us until there is a vaccine and that may not be for a very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Beast said: So, for how long do people need to stay inside and also businesses not opening? This virus will be with us until there is a vaccine and that may not be for a very long time. A little common sense can go a long way. I’m not saying lock yourself in your house. Life can go back close to “normal” IMO, but skipping the big concert, or 20k maskless person indoor rally, or happy hour with people 5 deep at the bar, or any other obviously dangerous situation would be a good idea for everyone right now. Crowded bars seem to be particularly likely spots to get infected (see Clemson football), so maybe less of that isn’t such a bad idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 9 minutes ago, Beast said: So, for how long do people need to stay inside and also businesses not opening? This virus will be with us until there is a vaccine and that may not be for a very long time. It's almost like a coordinated effort to tank America. Shame everyone to stay inside, forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Mailman said: Correct. I live in TX and anytime you get off a plane from a place listed in the Governor's executive order (New York, Jersey, Miami, Atlanta, Washington, California, etc) Troopers were waiting at bottom of the jet bridge with self quarantine paperwork. It's been a real pain for essential work travel. Turned out his load unknowingly didn’t have DoT numbers. They told him to call in the numbers when he got to the truck and he would be fine. But since their were no numbers (not his truck) he wasn’t “essential” and they told him he had to stay. He waited a few days and decided to make the run anyways because he couldn’t afford 2 weeks of hotels. Long and short. He got popped by a trooper at the Texas border. Lucky for him, they cut him a break and escorted him back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 27 minutes ago, 123719bwiqrb said: It's almost like a coordinated effort to tank America. Shame everyone to stay inside, forever. Not forever, only until November. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 3 hours ago, Don Otreply said: And this is my point, I mean if “WE” want to contain and beat this virus we ALL need to pitch in and do the right thing or we are saying I’m not willing to help out?? Yes it’s harder to do the right thing to help out our fellow country men and women, but some sacrifice is needed if “WE” do not want to spread this virus to our loved ones and neighbors, including our neighboring states. It begs the questioned, Are we a united country anymore? Do we as “Americans” care about each other? If not what have we become? People are dumb. Any direction from Gov't is scoffed at and viewed as a trampling of our rights as "free" Americans. This Virus isn't going anywhere and our stupid ass population is going to see to that. Our leaders aren't any better in some of these States and our Pres is in denial still.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 1 hour ago, 123719bwiqrb said: When can we resume normal activities King Don O? July 2021? Shallow thought process is why your not the king ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 4 minutes ago, Don Otreply said: Shallow thought process is why your not the king ? Sharp wit, I'll allow it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted June 25, 2020 Share Posted June 25, 2020 5 minutes ago, HeHateMe said: People are dumb. Any direction from Gov't is scoffed at and viewed as a trampling of our rights as "free" Americans. This Virus isn't going anywhere and our stupid ass population is going to see to that. Our leaders aren't any better in some of these States and our Pres is in denial still.. You are correct, but instead of “dumb” I would use the phrases willfully ignorant, or just plain stupid, sadly America has fallen behind the rest of the civilized world especially in education/critical thinking, damn sad frankly.... all in one life time no less... 2 minutes ago, 123719bwiqrb said: Sharp wit, I'll allow it. Cool. I win !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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