Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, The Dean said: I certainly hope the garage pull story is correct, and the end of this. However don't for a minute there isn't racism at play in the NASCAR culture: https://www.sportingnews.com/us/nascar/news/bubba-wallace-noose-mike-skinner/tl4wwe3qo3ih1k3jmrf64w62w But nothing to see here. I must admit I'm a bit curious what Wallace did to destroy the sport? Just being Black? By getting the Confederate Flag banned? What does that have to do with racing? holy crow there is racism where you want to find it. people are the same the world over. they lurk in your backyard if you are looking for it. this is a non story, is that so hard to see? cripes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Had to edit. Autocorrect. Lust was the word And yet...here we are. I am personally relieved. You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jauronimo said: If its lust you're looking for, check out #BubbaSmollett which is trending on twitter right now. you misspelled Smoullier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wacka Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: Again ... Bubba Wallace had exactly 0% to do with the discovery, or the report, of the noose. Again, did I say he did? NO. The Look ay me parade refers to the NASCAR execs, trying to look woke without doing any investigation first.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Foxx said: you misspelled Smoullier. No, I didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rob's House said: think any might want to... you know... have a plate of crow? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gugny said: Again ... Bubba Wallace had exactly 0% to do with the discovery, or the report, of the noose. who was the first to report on the “noose” ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: Of course I am. But I'm not one to gin outrage at the first sign of anything, either. I like to hear the facts before I project righteous anger. I'm guessing a noose, however unintentionally placed, doesn't carry the same historical weight with you as it would with others. And I'd think about that before I went around mocking what folks consider 'righteous anger'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocemur Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Foxx said: think any might want to... you know... have a plate of crow? Nope. I'm a frayed knot. P.S. I'm not involved in this particular dust up. I just really, really needed to get that out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said: Safe to say that MAYBE 2% of these are fake? It’s odd to chime in immediately after the initial post believing that it is the 1 out of 50. That’s just a bad look. Don’t be a victim shamer. Spend a few minutes in the mirror asking if that’s the guy you want to be? You also have to question if these episodes defeat the point by crying wolf one too many times. This marks the third highly publicized case in a week of a racist noose that turned into a non-event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just like the noose found a couple weeks ago in California which turned out to be a rope swing a black guy made for his kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: how about, NO!! you sure? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NT4tLI4fh3Q&feature=emb_logo h/t to @Hedge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: back off mac.... sure. stick to a hardened position of which you were ultimately wrong about. it's a good look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, DaBillsFanSince1973 said: do you really think I give a ______ about the "look"? carry on. so... virtue signaling then? it's all i got at this point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I don’t care if it’s the noose, or Ed Oliver or some other situation. THIS is why we should let it play out and learn the facts before passing judgment. What the heck did we really know here? Or with Ed? 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Nah, I'm good with that position. There's a mob mentality taking over this nation, and I refuse to be one holding a pitchfork. Shame. I think folks of all kind could benefit from more empathy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Jaraxxus said: Ironic. People in this very thread were ready to leap at the opportunity to tear someone to shreds. Not very empathetic behavior, wouldn't you agree? Where? Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Foxx said: sure. stick to a hardened position of which you were ultimately wrong about. it's a good look. Its not much of a look to yell "hoax" within minutes of the news breaking with zero supporting information or reasoning while simultaneously chastising everyone else for rushing to judgement. People's reactions reflected that. Just now, Jaraxxus said: Ironic. People in this very thread were ready to leap at the opportunity to tear someone to shreds. Not very empathetic behavior, wouldn't you agree? Tear who to shreds? No one was accused. Are you white knighting for a nameless, faceless, hypothetical racist? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: Ironic. People in this very thread were ready to leap at the opportunity to tear someone to shreds. Not very empathetic behavior, wouldn't you agree? There are certain positions that you can be empathetic towards. You should empathize with the VICTIMS!!! In this case, there were no victims. That’s a good thing. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I am glad that it finally came out as a false racist incidence. As I wrote in the other forum, It was always mystifying to me that these garage pulls were misinterpreted. NASCAR should have realized this immediately and not let it get this far. I appreciate what Gugny has repeated, That this is NOT Wallace's fault whatsoever, But I am afraid that the powers that be probably thought they could work on NASCAR's reputation (see the first three pages of this thread.) ADDED: I admitted when I was wrong, it is a shame that other posters cannot man up. . 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Nah, I'm white knighting for reasoned, logic-driven reaction to situations instead of hysteria. Let's be clear: what you are doing is taking it upon yourself to cast aspersions on folks who reacted to a story and attributing to them some ill intent, rather than accepting them at face value. 3 minutes ago, B-Man said: I am glad that it finally came out as a false racist incidence. As I wrote in the other forum, It was always mystifying to me that these garage pulls were misinterpreted. NASCAR should have realized this immediately and not let it get this far. I appreciate what Gugny has repeated, That this is NOT Wallace's fault whatsoever, But I am afraid that the powers that be probably thought they could work on NASCAR's reputation (see the first three pages of this thread.) ADDED: I admitted when I was wrong, it is a shame that other posters cannot man up. . Please explain who in your mind should be 'manning up' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Here's a decent write up... http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3858453/posts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 16 minutes ago, Foxx said: so... virtue signaling then? it's all i got at this point... Some would argue that calling another out for virtue signalling is an act of virtue signalling. While others would argue that virtue signalling is so over used and has strayed so far from its hazy origin that it has no particular meaning at this point. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, B-Man said: ADDED: I admitted when I was wrong, it is a shame that other posters cannot man up. Who else reacted the way you did? It's funny that you're trying to justify it now...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Jauronimo said: Some would argue that calling another out for virtue signalling is an act of virtue signalling. While others would argue that virtue signalling is so over used and has strayed so far from its hazy origin that it has no particular meaning at this point. lol. i tried to give him an out in the previous two posts, but then you knew that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: Those people are part of a crowd that does that very thing constantly. Casting aspersions on anyone and anything remotely considered racist. This tweet summarizes my view on today's America: Your view on today's America is that supporting racial equality and free speech are the purview of the right wing? Or that it's weird that views and societies evolve over time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Just Jack said: Here's a decent write up... http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3858453/posts Nice. Why was loop cut off, though? In the current picture. The author seems to stop short at the end. I feel like any curious investigator would want to know the circumstances around the noose being cut off and where it was placed... Edited June 23, 2020 by LeGOATski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: It's that the left is illiberal, antidemocratic and hypocritical. Oh, they're VERY liberal... Hypocrisy and self-righteousness plague both sides. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: It's that the left is illiberal, antidemocratic and hypocritical. I think if you knew me you would discover I am none of those things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 52 minutes ago, Rob's House said: Yeah, that's a very meh group. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 (edited) Despite it apparently being a false alarm, it’s VERY encouraging to see the level of support he received from all involved. I’ll take this as an unintended positive. Sometimes what looks like a bad thing turns out to really be a good thing. The sport was able to pivot quickly, make itself better and show a good example. . Edited June 23, 2020 by Augie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Jaraxxus said: I'm not convinced. It's the left that adheres to speech and thought orthodoxy. Yeah, I doubt you would be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 It's good if this is just someone being an idiot and seeing something that wasn't there. I don't really change my opinion on the act as originally reported being something that'd be sad and stupid. It's great if it didn't happen some of the reactions/responses from the whole event not so much but it was good of NASCAR to stand with someone they thought was targeted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 On 6/22/2020 at 12:41 PM, The Dean said: That's a pretty high bar for many here. Try not to get sunburn in your glass house. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Your view on today's America is that supporting racial equality and free speech are the purview of the right wing? Or that it's weird that views and societies evolve over time? Yet, is it really a result of evolving? Maybe it's always been that way and some never noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 Just now, Mark Vader said: Yet, is it really a result of evolving? Maybe it's always been that way and some never noticed. What's always been what way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jaraxxus said: You seem like a reasonable guy though, so perhaps not all is lost on that side of the aisle. I have more than a few friends who adhere to some really lefty thinking. I love them personally, even though they can be preachy. Honestly on most issues, I lean right, vote right. You wouldn't believe so by my posts in the PPP, but I just like calling out the bull#### and trying to create an actual discussion out of it. There just happen to be many more righties in that forum than lefties. I'll stop short there, since I don't want to make this thread political. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: What's always been what way? The view of racial equality and free speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: The view of racial equality and free speech. Being the purview of the right? Obviously I disagree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted June 23, 2020 Share Posted June 23, 2020 I've gone and read a few articles now that the FBI's investigation has concluded and this still seems weird to me... Not one article discusses why the rope was cut or where it was found. Where are the details? Maybe more will come out in time. If someone finds a detailed article please post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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