Ed Oliver Arrested DWI

[Royale with Cheese]

3 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Thanks for the virtue signaling post. You have been arbitrarily awarded one "Holier than thou" token. If you combine this with a "white knight" token you may redeem them for  your SJW badge. 

Double thumbs up.

[Yantha]

2 minutes ago, ndirish1978 said:

 

Thanks for the virtue signaling post. You have been arbitrarily awarded one "Holier than thou" token. If you combine this with a "white knight" token you may redeem them for  your SJW badge. 

Is it considered virtue signalling really?  This is a thread about a crime that was committed by a Bills player.  So unless I'm trashing cops, and defending this guy, I'm virtue signalling?  When did this happen?  How is it possible that saying anything negative about a bills player, or even a CRIME now....  you get trashed here on these boards?  It's impossible posting here sometimes.

 

If you're not a total homer, you get slammed.

 

If you call a crime a crime, you get slammed.

 

Honestly...  

1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Okay so you didn't.  You don't speak for everyone.  I don't do it now, I did make mistakes in my early 20's that I'm not proud of.

 

You say "you don't speak for everyone", yet your post claimed to be speaking for "most".  I was basically saying that most people don't drink and drive these days.  We've come a long way.

[wiskibreth]

4 minutes ago, Yantha said:

Okay thanks for clarifying.  So if he wasn't drunk driving, it's okay for him to have a firearm in his car?  I wasn't aware of that.

Yes, absolutely legal.  No license required to keep a gun in your car. You just cant carry it around (concealed or open) without a License to Cary permit, in Texas.

[Yantha]

1 minute ago, wiskibreth said:

Yes, absolutely legal.  No license required to keep a gun in your car. You just cant carry it around (concealed or open) without a License to Cary permit, in Texas.

Okay thanks.  I wasn't aware.  Laws are different in different states, and in Ontario (where I'm from).

[wiskibreth]

1 minute ago, Yantha said:

Okay thanks.  I wasn't aware.  Laws are different in different states, and in Ontario (where I'm from).

But...  as soon as you add "intoxication" (at any level, officer discretion) to the picture, it becomes "illegal possession"

[Yantha]

Just now, wiskibreth said:

But...  as soon as you add "intoxication" (at any level, officer discretion) to the picture, it becomes "illegal possession"

Understood.  So if the lab results from the alcohol blood test come back as NEGATIVE or within acceptable levels, I suppose the firearm charge gets tossed as well.  But if the blood test comes back positive, Oliver is toast.

[Royale with Cheese]

39 minutes ago, Yantha said:

  You say "you don't speak for everyone", yet your post claimed to be speaking for "most".  I was basically saying that most people don't drink and drive these days.  We've come a long way.

 

Because I'm not going to be naive that since the majority of the US population has drank or drinks alcohol....at one point that got behind a wheel when they shouldn't have.

People do mature and come a long way in that sense.  But a young and dumb adult is a young and dumb adult whether it's 2020 or 1970.  

Edited May 18, 2020 by Royale with Cheese

[Yantha]

This team is fine with or without Oliver though.  Jefferson is a GREAT starter if he can stay healthy.  Hope that he CAN stay healthy!

[wiskibreth]

2 minutes ago, Yantha said:

Understood.  So if the lab results from the alcohol blood test come back as NEGATIVE or within acceptable levels, I suppose the firearm charge gets tossed as well.  But if the blood test comes back positive, Oliver is toast.

Pretty much, but both are misdemeanor charges.  I wouldn't say he's "toast".  He;s in more trouble with the league and the team than he is with the law.

Edited May 18, 2020 by wiskibreth

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

Just now, Yantha said:

Understood.  So if the lab results from the alcohol blood test come back as NEGATIVE or within acceptable levels, I suppose the firearm charge gets tossed as well.  But if the blood test comes back positive, Oliver is toast.

 

I mean - lawyers will have a lot of arguments around that charge.  If it was just in the bed of the pickup or in the glove box and all he did was tell officers it was there i seriously doubt he gets anything for it.  

[Yantha]

Just now, Royale with Cheese said:

 

Because I'm not going to be naive that since the majority of the US population has drank or drinks alcohol....at one point that got behind a wheel when they shouldn't have.

People do mature and come a long way in that sense.  But come a young and dumb adult is a young and dumb adult whether it's 2020 or 1970.  

That's true.

I can see that point, but having a beer between your knees while driving isn't as common (I hope?)

Just now, wiskibreth said:

Pretty much, but both are misdemeanor charges.  I wouldn't say he's "toast".  He;s in more trouble with the league and the team than he is with the law.

Yeah that's what I meant.  He's "toast" with the team for a number of games (minor suspension)

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 minute ago, Yantha said:

That's true.

I can see that point, but having a beer between your knees while driving isn't as common (I hope?)

Yeah that's what I meant.  He's "toast" with the team for a number of games (minor suspension)

 

I believe for a 1st timer itll be 2 games.  But it might not be until 2021.

[Royale with Cheese]

6 minutes ago, Yantha said:

I can see that point, but having a beer between your knees while driving isn't as common (I hope?)

 

It's called a roadie.  

 

When I was in college and early 20's, my friends usually brought a roadie with them before we went out.  Start at someone's house to pregame drink, then it's time to go out...pour another drink for the drive.  

 

If it's Thursday, Friday or Saturday night and in the hangout areas of a major city, you're going to have drivers with roadies.  I can't give a percentage of how many but they are out there.

[Yantha]

6 minutes ago, dneveu said:

 

I believe for a 1st timer itll be 2 games.  But it might not be until 2021.

That would be good!  I honestly feel this team can make.a major playoff push this year.  

[Doc]

14 minutes ago, Yantha said:

This team is fine with or without Oliver though.  Jefferson is a GREAT starter if he can stay healthy.  Hope that he CAN stay healthy!

 

He's been healthy the past 2 seasons.

[Yantha]

1 minute ago, Doc said:

 

He's been healthy the past 2 seasons.

He broke his foot in the playoffs so I'm hoping that foot doesn't give him problems this season.  Foot breaks can cause some pain in the subsequent year.  He's an AWESOME player, and I'm happy to see him as a Bill.

[Figster]

Myself personally,  Covid 19 has seperated our younger generation from its more elderly senior guidance in my humble opinion.

 

Whisper words of wisdom...

 

...Let it McD...

 

 

 

 

Edited May 18, 2020 by Figster

[JESSEFEFFER]

Maybe it's been addressed in this thread but does that video look like a failed field sobriety test?  Those that know more can weigh in but at 9PM, after bouncing around in a dune buggy all day and at 280+ lbs. I thought he did ok.  At my best I'd do about the same (50+ and 40+lbs. overweight) and the only drinking I do is part of the free wine samples at Olive Garden.

[BillsFan2313]

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

It's called a roadie.  

 

When I was in college and early 20's, my friends usually brought a roadie with them before we went out.  Start at someone's house to pregame drink, then it's time to go out...pour another drink for the drive.  

 

If it's Thursday, Friday or Saturday night and in the hangout areas of a major city, you're going to have drivers with roadies.  I can't give a percentage of how many but they are out there.

 

Good ole roadies days lol

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Maybe it's been addressed in this thread but does that video look like a failed field sobriety test?  Those that know more can weigh in but at 9PM, after bouncing around in a dune buggy all day and at 280+ lbs. I thought he did ok.  At my best I'd do about the same (50+ and 40+lbs. overweight) and the only drinking I do is part of the free wine samples at Olive Garden.

 

I don't think a FST accounts for much.  It's the BAC that will determine things.

[JESSEFEFFER]

Just now, Doc said:

 

I don't think a FST accounts for much.  It's the BAC that will determine things.

 

Some reports said he failed it.  Maybe that's just an assumption since he was arrested.

[BaaadThingsMan]

Ed Oliver will be fine

[Mr. WEO]

3 hours ago, Bferra13 said:

 

I dunno man. Hes 22. People do dumb things. No one was hurt. Hope he learns from it and let's move on.

 

2 hours ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

 

I did lots of dumb stuff when I was 22--stuff that could have gotten me in legal trouble---that I don't do now.  I grew up, and grew out of those behaviors. To think he would not have changed unless he got caught is equally parts silly, immature, and ignorant. It just sounds like something really judgey 17 year olds say. 

 

You think if he didn't get caught that he would not have done the same thing next weekend?  Next year? 5 years from now?  When would he have decided he would not haul a trailer while drinking? 

 

Why wouldn't he?  It's not something you necessarily grow out of.  A 17 year old knows it's wrong.  This is a man of 22.  32 and 42 and 52 year olds do this same thing.  Some get caught multiple times and still don't change.

 

His age is a bizarre excuse.

14 minutes ago, Doc said:

 

I don't think a FST accounts for much.  It's the BAC that will determine things.

 

Gave them cause for the arrest and blood test. 

[YoloinOhio]

 

[Mango]

7 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

 

Some reports said he failed it.  Maybe that's just an assumption since he was arrested.

 

I was wondering this. Seemed OK. Balance on 1 foot was solid. Took a second with both feet down with the one foot in front of the other. He seemed compliant, and there is no reference of him refusing to blow on the side of the road. No BAC reported yet. The police report said they were unsure if it was alcohol but that he was inebriated. Curious if he blew under .08, I believe in TX you can still catch a charge for that, but less severe. But the open container pushed the issue and triggered the search, found the gun. Which wouldn't have been illegal if not for the beer.  

[NoSaint]

41 minutes ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

Maybe it's been addressed in this thread but does that video look like a failed field sobriety test?  Those that know more can weigh in but at 9PM, after bouncing around in a dune buggy all day and at 280+ lbs. I thought he did ok.  At my best I'd do about the same (50+ and 40+lbs. overweight) and the only drinking I do is part of the free wine samples at Olive Garden.

May have additionally had pupil issues etc... 

 

I’d assume that if close to on the fence many end up “failing” to get a blood draw out of it.

[freddyjj]

2 hours ago, DieHardBillsFan said:

Will be Harrison Philips time to shine and pic up where he left off 2 years ago.

Horrible harry is the 1T backup for Star.  Last year Jordan Phillips was the 3T platoon mate with Ed.

 

My guess is that Quinton Jefferson and Vernon Butler play the 3T if Oliver misses part of season.

[Augie]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

 

It's called a roadie.  

 

When I was in college and early 20's, my friends usually brought a roadie with them before we went out.  Start at someone's house to pregame drink, then it's time to go out...pour another drink for the drive.  

 

If it's Thursday, Friday or Saturday night and in the hangout areas of a major city, you're going to have drivers with roadies.  I can't give a percentage of how many but they are out there.

 

Heck, I learned this from my parents and their friends! When we were leaving to go out to dinner they would all pour a drink for the ride to the restaurant. My girlfriends dad and his buddy would pick us up at the movies with a drink in hand and on occasion they went down the snow bank encased road like a kid bowling with the bumpers down. I remember cops pulling people over who were wasted and the cop just followed them home at like 5 MPH to their house at the end of the block. 

 

It is certainly VERY different these days, but depending upon your age, you may have experienced when is was quite common to drink and derive, sometimes even to excess. The world is a different place now in many ways, and this is one of them......but I’m not so naive to think this has gone away entirely.

[Kwai San]

On 5/17/2020 at 5:59 AM, Conlan58 said:

An open beer between his legs? Are you effin kidding me?!

It is Texas!!!!  No surprise here....

[Jamie Mueller]

On 5/17/2020 at 5:58 AM, GunnerBill said:

This is the opposite of good news.

Seems like the first bit of bad news about the Bills since that duffus retired at halftime a few years back.

[MAJBobby]

Hearing from friends in Houston that his BAC came back 0.03% and no other drugs in system. 
 

again just based on them I have not seen it verified or even released in any other location. 

[HappyDays]

6 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Hearing from friends in Houston that his BAC came back 0.03% and no other drugs in system. 
 

again just based on them I have not seen it verified or even released in any other location. 

 

If true I would guess he will not be suspended at all.

[MAJBobby]

Just now, HappyDays said:

 

If true I would guess he will not be suspended at all.

I have seen a .09% posted in a UK Bills forum as well. But like said have not been able to find either of those numbers anywhere outside of my Friend and the UK Bills site 

[NoSaint]

10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

Hearing from friends in Houston that his BAC came back 0.03% and no other drugs in system. 
 

again just based on them I have not seen it verified or even released in any other location. 

Why would your friend have access to that?

[MAJBobby]

Just now, NoSaint said:

Why would your friend have access to that?

 This particular friend works at Kingswood Hospital 

[MAJBobby]

10 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

 

If true I would guess he will not be suspended at all.

Yeah If my friend is right these charges will be dismissed pretty quickly as there is no DWI with that BAC. Guess we will find out if my friend is right 

[Joe Miner]

13 minutes ago, NoSaint said:

Why would your friend have access to that?

 

You make it sound like administering blood tests to Bills players without their knowledge or consent isn't normal....

 

I mean what kind of fans do you think we are here?

Edited May 18, 2020 by Joe Miner

[MAJBobby]

1 minute ago, Joe Miner said:

 

You make it sound like administering blood tests to Bills players without their knowledge or consent isn't normal....

 

I mean what kind of fans do you think we are here?

You know there was a mandatory blood draw as part of the arrest right?

 

You know people work in those locations and or do the draw and testing right?  
 

and that Leaks happen right? 

[PIZ]

17 minutes ago, MAJBobby said:

I have seen a .09% posted in a UK Bills forum as well. But like said have not been able to find either of those numbers anywhere outside of my Friend and the UK Bills site 

.08% is the legal limit in TX, right?

 

 

[Motorin']

1 hour ago, JESSEFEFFER said:

 

Some reports said he failed it.  Maybe that's just an assumption since he was arrested.

Open container is a misdemeanor in Texas, which in and of itself makes the gun possession a misdemeanor. Even without DUI, these are arrestable offenses.