Fan in Chicago Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, BuffaloHokie13 said: He's been in the playoffs plenty. He needs to stop losing in the playoffs. Especially to teams like the Texans when they're QB'd by TJ Yates... Again, no other team is likely to get him the chance to reach and possibly win in the playoffs. NE is his best chance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: If I have to predict anything I would say that he goes to Jacksonville as a backup who competes for a starting job. Patriots would be the next likely destination. this seems likely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, dneveu said: I think Pittsburgh would be interesting. Their season fell apart last year because all their backups are terrible. Roethlisberger has missed time in 4 of 5 seasons, he's 38... they should have a backup plan. 1 hour ago, billsfan89 said: That's not a bad fit, but I think Dalton would prefer to have a chance at a starting position. In Jacksonville and NE he has a chance to start. With the Steelers he is definitely a backup. If Dalton can't find a starting job somewhere, the Steelers should sign him at least as a thank you for that decade worth of 2 wins a season 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Dalton has been pretty good against the Bills. Hopefully he doesn’t sign Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I think here would be great. Could also see him in PGH, but they appear bizarrely wed to Rudolph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I will say, between being under shelter-in-place, this slow offseason, and the Bills roster pretty much set, Dalton to the Jags/Pats will be my new Mario/Maclin-Watch of 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I will say, between being under shelter-in-place, this slow offseason, and the Bills roster pretty much set, Dalton to the Jags/Pats will be my new Mario/Maclin-Watch of 2020 Sad violin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Everybody understands that they currently don't have cap space. But they can create a bit more, back end Dalton's contract. Also, never under estimate a player's drive to prove himself after being dumped by his only employer But he’s gonna command 18-19 million. Again bill would have to gut the team of a lot of talent just to bring dalton in. And at that point there wouldn’t be a team worth signing dalton for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloHokie13 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) As far as a chance at starting and cap space, I think Jaguars, Chargers, and Redskins are all options. Edited April 30, 2020 by BuffaloHokie13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 hours ago, ScottLaw said: So Dalton gets the blame for the disaster that are the Cincinnati Bengals? Im suggesting he could do what Bridgewater did for the Saints last season.... Barkley can’t and neither can Fromm. A QB gets a lot of blame for a team's losing record. Since that career 2015 season, he's 20-35-1. Now would I take him as a backup QB on a cheap deal? Sure. Just not as a long-term starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 18 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said: As far as a chance at starting and cap space, I think Jaguars, Chargers, and Redskins are all options. Ooooh, Redskins are a good sleeper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 24 minutes ago, /dev/null said: If Dalton can't find a starting job somewhere, the Steelers should sign him at least as a thank you for that decade worth of 2 wins a season 3-13... 8-8 against baltimore though and 12-5 against the browns. So he wasn't terrible against the rest of the division 21 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: But he’s gonna command 18-19 million. Again bill would have to gut the team of a lot of talent just to bring dalton in. And at that point there wouldn’t be a team worth signing dalton for Is he? Winston just got 1 million. There's no market for his services at 18 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 28 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: I think here would be great. Could also see him in PGH, but they appear bizarrely wed to Rudolph. Even though he's terrible. Before that was Landry Jones... who was also terrible. I think they're trying to use QB2 to develop behind Ben, but they all come out terrible. And it cost them 2019 because they were pathetic down the stretch. What a waste of a beast defense that grabbed a ton of takeaways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
/dev/null Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, dneveu said: Even though he's terrible. Before that was Landry Jones... who was also terrible. I think they're trying to use QB2 to develop behind Ben, but they all come out terrible. And it cost them 2019 because they were pathetic down the stretch. What a waste of a beast defense that grabbed a ton of takeaways. Speaking of Landry Jones, when Ben went down the Steelers contacted him about returning, but the XFL refused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stinky finger Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 40 minutes ago, Phil The Thrill said: Dalton has been pretty good against the Bills. Hopefully he doesn’t sign He was good enough to get us into the playoffs a couple of seasons ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 I just don’t see anyone bringing him in as a starter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 hours ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Minority of Bills fans? Sure. I agree. People who don't pay any attention to the Bills are woefully misinformed. 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Outside this board, I think you would find yourself in the distinct minority on this issue. Allen has yet to put up a season that compares to what Cam, Dalton, and Winston have done in the past. As it stands, Allen is a developing QB who isn't asked to do too much due to a stout defense. And yet all those QB's are unemployed right now, while Allen is having a team built around him. Funny how life works. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I just don’t see anyone bringing him in as a starter. ...$17.5 mil tariff easily squashed any trade efforts......agree on starter money prognosis......incentive laden deal with "competition promise" is probably the best he'll see IMO.....had pretty decent stats at TCU and thought that the Bills would pull the trigger in 2011 round 2 with the proverbial "later round QB pick", but Aaron Williams was the choice.....guess we were all set with Fitz & Thigpen............. Edited April 30, 2020 by OldTimeAFLGuy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...$17.5 mil tariff easily squashed any trade efforts......agree on starter money prognosis......incentive laden deal with "competition promise" is probably the best he'll see IMO.....had pretty decent stats at TCU and thought that the Bills would pull the trigger in 2011 round 2 with the proverbial "later round QB pick", but Aaron Williams was the choice.....guess we were all set with Fitz & Thigpen............. Ahhh good old pigpen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 He'd be an excellent backup, but I'm not sure if he wants to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, dneveu said: 3-13... 8-8 against baltimore though and 12-5 against the browns. So he wasn't terrible against the rest of the division Is he? Winston just got 1 million. There's no market for his services at 18 million. Dalton is a much better QB than Winston lol he’s been to the playoffs multiple times unlike Winston and Winston is coming off a 30 int season last year and just got pushed out the door in favor of a 45 year old QB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 11 minutes ago, MJS said: He'd be an excellent backup, but I'm not sure if he wants to do that. It's Post-draft and Cam newtons still a free agent. Many teams are strapped for cap space. Jameis Winston threw for 5000 yards last year, is younger, and just signed a deal for a million dollars. He's at the rock bottom of his value at the moment. Just sign somewhere where you might get some playing time and hit open free agency next year when teams have money to spend. Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said: Dalton is a much better QB than Winston lol he’s been to the playoffs multiple times unlike Winston and Winston is coming off a 30 int season last year and just got pushed out the door in favor of a 45 year old QB He's 0-4 in the playoffs and hasn't made it in 5 years. Nobody has cap space to give the guy 18 million, nor should they. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 54 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: I agree. People who don't pay any attention to the Bills are woefully misinformed. And yet all those QB's are unemployed right now, while Allen is having a team built around him. Funny how life works. Josh Rosen has a job too right now. He must be a much better QB than Cam, Jameis, and Dalton. I am very smart. Edited April 30, 2020 by FireChans 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 27 minutes ago, dneveu said: It's Post-draft and Cam newtons still a free agent. Many teams are strapped for cap space. Jameis Winston threw for 5000 yards last year, is younger, and just signed a deal for a million dollars. He's at the rock bottom of his value at the moment. Just sign somewhere where you might get some playing time and hit open free agency next year when teams have money to spend. He's 0-4 in the playoffs and hasn't made it in 5 years. Nobody has cap space to give the guy 18 million, nor should they. He’s not going to New England I guarantee he goes to Pittsburgh since they can’t count on Big Ben to stay healthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: Josh Rosen has a job too right now. He must be a much better QB than Cam, Jameis, and Dalton. I am very smart. Is he a starter? No? Well then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Is he a starter? No? Well then. Oh, so Gardner Minshew and Mitch Trubisky are so much better than Cam, Winston and Dalton. I am still very smart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FireChans said: Oh, so Gardner Minshew and Mitch Trubisky are so much better than Cam, Winston and Dalton. I am still very smart. Then explain why teams let these gift-from-the-gods QBs go? Jax could sign anyone of them to replace Minshew....but they haven't. Winston had to take a backup job. Cam and Flacco? Crickets. Dalton is still fresh on the beach so who knows. He could end up with the Pats if they cut a few big contacts, but I doubt it. I get that having people speak well of the Bills is disconcerting. It must really be hard on the TBD Fellowship of the Miserable. Edited April 30, 2020 by PromoTheRobot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, FireChans said: Oh, so Gardner Minshew and Mitch Trubisky are so much better than Cam, Winston and Dalton. I am still very smart. Nope your just picking qbs who are on a rookie contract and don’t cost very much. Observant, not smart... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: I just don’t see anyone bringing him in as a starter. Jacksonville would give him a shot to compete for a starting job and of course the Pats probably would toss him into a QB competition. Overall I think he isn't going to have any better shot to start other than being in a QB competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Then explain why teams let these gift-from-the-gods QBs go? Jax could sign anyone of them to replace Minshew....but they haven't. Winston had to take a backup job. Cam and Flacco? Crickets. Dalton is still fresh on the beach so who knows. He could end up with the Pats if they cut a few big contacts, but I doubt it. I get that having people speak well of the Bills is disconcerting. It must really be hard on the TBD Fellowship of the Miserable. So are you going on record right now that Mitch Trubisky is better than Dalton, Cam and Winston? Don’t be wishy-washy. He’s got a job and is a starter! That was your (silly) argument two posts ago. Stick with it man! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 hour ago, /dev/null said: Speaking of Landry Jones, when Ben went down the Steelers contacted him about returning, but the XFL refused Doug Whaley ladies and gentlemen.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Nope your just picking qbs who are on a rookie contract and don’t cost very much. Observant, not smart... ? Josh Allen is on a rookie contract. And the Bears just picked up a sizable cap hit to bring Foles aboard. You have to follow along if you want to participate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 Just now, FireChans said: So are you going on record right now that Mitch Trubisky is better than Dalton, Cam and Winston? Don’t be wishy-washy. He’s got a job and is a starter! That was your (silly) argument two posts ago. Stick with it man! Like @Meatloaf63 said, contracts play into it. If Minshew or Trubisky made what Newton and Dalton made they wouldn't be around either. I know anything harder than yes/no answers are hard for you but try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 1 minute ago, FireChans said: ? Josh Allen is on a rookie contract. And the Bears just picked up a sizable cap hit to bring Foles aboard. You have to follow along if you want to participate. You’re right, I didn’t read every post in this thread, but they were able to bring in Foles because they have Trubisky on a rookie contract. Your still not as smart as you think you are... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Jauronimo said: Outside this board, I think you would find yourself in the distinct minority on this issue. Allen has yet to put up a season that compares to what Cam, Dalton, and Winston have done in the past. As it stands, Allen is a developing QB who isn't asked to do too much due to a stout defense. 1 hour ago, PromoTheRobot said: I agree. People who don't pay any attention to the Bills are woefully misinformed. And yet all those QB's are unemployed right now, while Allen is having a team built around him. Funny how life works. 5 minutes ago, PromoTheRobot said: Like @Meatloaf63 said, contracts play into it. If Minshew or Trubisky made what Newton and Dalton made they wouldn't be around either. I know anything harder than yes/no answers are hard for you but try. So you’re walking this back. Got it. You could have just stuck with, “I think Josh is better than those guys right now,” you know. “Josh is starting so he must be better” is shaky logic at best. Edited April 30, 2020 by FireChans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 30, 2020 Share Posted April 30, 2020 We'd be a better team right now with Dalton at QB, but it's not happening. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 Redskins would be a good fit. Their defense is going to be good with that D line and Ron Rivera and they can give Haskins a year to really watch a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 1 hour ago, GreggTX said: We'd be a better team right now with Dalton at QB, but it's not happening. Agreed. Dalton would be an upgrade at backup QB. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I always thought Dalton was just missing an elite front office. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 2 hours ago, GreggTX said: We'd be a better team right now with Dalton at QB, but it's not happening. OMG another Allen hater, how typical. Nothing will ever satisfy you bills fans Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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