Clyde Smith Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Really? It was like the most important play of the last decade when it happened I know I saw the play in real time but don't remember it. Time is a blur at this point, lost plenty brain cells since that play. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I got flamed for years on bbmb for calling Gilmore all pro quality He was a stud while here and just gets away with more in NE Thank God we got Tre Once NE becomes irrelevant, we'll see how many gift calls Gilmore gets down the road. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 hours ago, jeremy2020 said: I like how the white knights that are trying to get in Gilmore's pants in this thread don't wanna talk about his first season with NE... His first 6 games were bad he struggled to pick up the scheme. By the end of his first year then he was playing at an all pro level and has been ever since. 5 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I got flamed for years on bbmb for calling Gilmore all pro quality He was a stud while here and just gets away with more in NE Thank God we got Tre I got flamed here for the same. It is ironic that Bills fans on this message board spend most of their time over valuing and overrating our players. And yet when we did truly have a stud they hated on him because he didn't smile when he got drafted. Tre is the rare example of a player who is both genuinely a stud and liked by fans. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 11 hours ago, Dopey said: Super Bowl Champ, Defensive Player of the Year. Typical pitchfork guy on TBD. You're pretty upset by this, aren't you? This is like your 3rd post in this thread, basically repeating the same thing. 3 hours ago, dave mcbride said: He was *literally* voted the NFL defensive player of the year for 2019, and this after a great 2018 season and a phenomenal SB vs the Rams (forced fumble and key INT). Just stop, guys. Did you think that he was the best defensive player in the NFL last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClemsonBills Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Billl said: I’m amazed that the Bills haven’t won 25 straight Super Bowls. Every player on other teams sucks. Even their all pros and guys with rings. Gilmore sucks. Sammy Watkins sucks. Dak Prescott sucks. Hell, I just learned yesterday that Mahomes isn’t a top 10 QB... HA! Soft players get rings all the time. As others have pointed out, both were soft during their time here. These guys succeeding elsewhere doesn’t change that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, dave mcbride said: He was *literally* voted the NFL defensive player of the year for 2019, and this after a great 2018 season and a phenomenal SB vs the Rams (forced fumble and key INT). Just stop, guys. I think more highly of Watkins than most here, but I’ll agree that it’s arguable. His postseason performances the last couple of years have played a big role in shaping my opinion. Lighten up, McBride. We’re just having a little fun with an ex-Bill now playing with our most hated rival. Smoke SMOKED him on that play -as happens to every CB occasionally. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwalter Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 13 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Apologies, @johnwalter. Your thread was 1st, but the later one took off quickly. I’ll try harder..?♂️ Lol who am i to resist the tide of the thread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Did you think that he was the best defensive player in the NFL last season? Personally I'd have said Aaron Donald but because he had won it the previous year and his production dipped from off the charts incredible to just elite I think the felt compelled to go elsewhere (though it ignores his production was still UP on 2017 when he won his first DPOTY award). If you were going to discount Donald though? Then yea, I thought Gilmore was the best defensive player in the league. He was a huge part of the reason the Patriots defense was so good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW95 - JA17 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 22 hours ago, dave mcbride said: The hate here for two very good NFL players Who happened to also be good players for the Bills is freaking hilarious. Jeezus. Which two players that were good for the Bills are you talking about? 95% of the stank left and now the Bills have made postseason 2-3 years without them. Once the last stank on this team leaves, we will be in the SB. Yes I'm talking about JH55. Edited April 6, 2020 by KW95 - JA17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 15 hours ago, Augie said: Gilmore is going with his standard line: “That was somebody else’s guy. I’m not pointing fingers, I’m just going to stare at somebody.” I’m not buying it. Or, The ‘Gilmore Glance’, turn around after getting burned and look at the Jumbotron to make it appear it was someone’s else’s fault. He is a good player but he is not someone I miss For one minute. If things go as expected and NE is a dumpster fire next year, Gilmores personality will show more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 21 hours ago, FluffHead said: If you look at the tweet, Gilmore didn’t even tweet it. He just “liked” someone else’s tweet that did. this is manufactured and a non story Umm, the story isn't "manufactured" at all...it happened. Have you been on Twitter? Nobody forces you to click "like" on a tweet -- it's a conscious decision. Gilmore should know better. Now, in the big scheme of things I don't know if this motivates a guy like Diggs or not -- but it was a slight, no matter how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: Lighten up, McBride. We’re just having a little fun with an ex-Bill now playing with our most hated rival. Smoke SMOKED him on that play -as happens to every CB occasionally. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 12 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Oh good a hate on Gilmore thread. We haven't had one of these in at least a week. Glimore played plenty well here. The hate he got because he didn't smile more was pathetic and petty at the time and even more so now. The hate had more to do with him dodging tackles near the end of his time here. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said: You're pretty upset by this, aren't you? This is like your 3rd post in this thread, basically repeating the same thing. Did you think that he was the best defensive player in the NFL last season? I do. He tailed off in the last 2-3 games back to normal, but in the first 13, he was as lockdown as lockdown can get. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Bermuda Triangle said: You're pretty upset by this, aren't you? This is like your 3rd post in this thread, basically repeating the same thing. I'm good, but, there's a difference between being upset and thinking it's stupid for people to claim he's soft, can't cover, it was the system, etc. Seems like some here are mad that he is a Superbowl Champ, Defensive player of the year and a Patriot. It's ok to admit we let a good one go. He's gone, put the pitchforks away. Save them for Ford, Star, Murphy, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: I do. He tailed off in the last 2-3 games back to normal, but in the first 13, he was as lockdown as lockdown can get. When the season consists of 16 games, tailing off for 2-3 games is a pretty big deal (one of which cost the Pats a bye). That's like saying that Mike Trout was the best player in MLB, save 30 or so games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: When the season consists of 16 games, tailing off for 2-3 games is a pretty big deal (one of which cost the Pats a bye). That's like saying that Mike Trout was the best player in MLB, save 30 or so games. Mike Trout had more than 30 statistically terrible games in each of the last five seasons. No player is perfect every game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 10 hours ago, ClemsonBills said: HA! Soft players get rings all the time. As others have pointed out, both were soft during their time here. These guys succeeding elsewhere doesn’t change that. And the Cheaters have won SB's with UDFA CB's. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 27 minutes ago, dave mcbride said: Mike Trout had more than 30 statistically terrible games in each of the last five seasons. No player is perfect every game. Would that count great plays he made in the field, or on the base paths, or the protection he afforded other players in the lineup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FluffHead Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, eball said: Umm, the story isn't "manufactured" at all...it happened. Have you been on Twitter? Nobody forces you to click "like" on a tweet -- it's a conscious decision. Gilmore should know better. Now, in the big scheme of things I don't know if this motivates a guy like Diggs or not -- but it was a slight, no matter how you look at it. I like a lot of things on Twitter I would not write myself. It’s reaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Dopey said: I'm good, but, there's a difference between being upset and thinking it's stupid for people to claim he's soft, can't cover, it was the system, etc. Seems like some here are mad that he is a Superbowl Champ, Defensive player of the year and a Patriot. It's ok to admit we let a good one go. He's gone, put the pitchforks away. Save them for Ford, Star, Murphy, etc. The weed doesn't seem to be helping. Need those opiates for that butt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: Would that count great plays he made in the field, or on the base paths, or the protection he afforded other players in the lineup? Not sure why you're arguing this point. All good baseball players have tons of bad games. For even the best class of hitters, it's a sport pretty much defined by probable failure. Edited April 6, 2020 by dave mcbride Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngjebrey Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I can’t wait until gilmore dogs it this year because he’s on a 6 win team. The Stephon Gilmore experience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: And the Cheaters have won SB's with UDFA CB's. You mean Butler? The starting corners in that game were Revis and Browner. When the Patriots win they invariably have excellent corner play and pay for the privilege. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill963 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 4/5/2020 at 6:27 AM, MJS said: They definately were in Buffalo. Gilmore only cared about himself and wanted to stay healthy to get a big contract away from Buffalo, so he never wanted to get his hands dirty. Watkins is more soft in the mind. He has the physical tools but lacks the mental toughness. Gilmore has gotten so cocky too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, jeremy2020 said: The weed doesn't seem to be helping. Need those opiates for that butt? You wrote in a post to me about folks having fun here. I'm having as much fun as anyone here. You also mentioned in a post how no one is bringing up his 1st year in NE. Here's why, it's like showing ONE clip of Brown beating him and saying he sucks. You're bringing up 1 season out of his career, a season where NE went 13-3 and went to the Super Bowl. Actually, this weed is pretty good. Never cared for opiates, down the toilet they went. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 20 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: I got flamed for years on bbmb for calling Gilmore all pro quality He was a stud while here and just gets away with more in NE Thank God we got Tre Gilmore is flagged more in NE in general than he was here, though it has always fluctuated on a yearly basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 hours ago, Doc said: And the Cheaters have won SB's with UDFA CB's. How many of the UDFAs were Defensive Player of the Year? How many times did they hold the top offense in the nfl to 3 points in the SB? i mean if some of you can’t admit Gilmore is really good by now, y’all just some salty ex lovers. ? 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: You mean Butler? The starting corners in that game were Revis and Browner. When the Patriots win they invariably have excellent corner play and pay for the privilege. They spent a 1st rounder on McCourty. Some fans are trying really hard to put Gilmore down. Your ex girlfriend got married to a guy who is better looking and has more money than you. And she got a boob job, starting hitting the gym real hard, and now looks like a supermodel. Just work on improving yourself. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, BuffaloBill963 said: Gilmore has gotten so cocky too Yeah, those re-tweets are out of control! Deion Sanders is embarrassed by Gilmore’s cockiness. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, KW95 - JA17 said: Which two players that were good for the Bills are you talking about? 95% of the stank left and now the Bills have made postseason 2-3 years without them. Once the last stank on this team leaves, we will be in the SB. Yes I'm talking about JH55. Gilmore and Watkins were definitely holding this team back just like they are going to hold the Pats and Chiefs back from ever winning a SB.. And totally, the difference between this team being a one and done WC team and playing in the SB is Jerry Hughes. Dumping him would certainly make all the difference 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: How many of the UDFAs were Defensive Player of the Year? How many times did they hold the top offense in the nfl to 3 points in the SB? i mean if some of you can’t admit Gilmore is really good by now, y’all just some salty ex lovers. ? No one said he isn't a good CB. But the Bills were right to let him walk and they replaced him with White. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: They spent a 1st rounder on McCourty. Some fans are trying really hard to put Gilmore down. Your ex girlfriend got married to a guy who is better looking and has more money than you. And she got a boob job, starting hitting the gym real hard, and now looks like a supermodel. Just work on improving yourself. ? Lies!! My ex gf earns more money than me but her new fella doesn't Edited April 6, 2020 by GunnerBill 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: No one said he isn't a good CB. But the Bills were right to let him walk and they replaced him with White. Tre is awesome. But how can you say they were right? One, they could have kept Gilmore and drafted White. Lockdown central. They could have kept Gilmore and drafted Mahomes or Watson. again, Tre is one of the best in the game. But he’s still a cb. You aren’t “right” if you let a DPOY walk for nothing and pass up 2 top 5 caliber qbs, one who has the chance to be one of best ever. It’s worked out ok for us so far, but we were hardly “right.” 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Lies!! My ex gf earns more money than me but her new fella doesn't I think that would hurt even more. ? and then she started watching the Bills when all she used to do is complain about you watching them (that’s my ex ?). ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 This reaction seems a bit contrived. Just because he liked a comment from a fan doesn't mean his is disrespecting Diggs. That is a bit of a stretch. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, longtimebillsfan said: This reaction seems a bit contrived. Just because he liked a comment from a fan doesn't mean his is disrespecting Diggs. That is a bit of a stretch. Diggs probably couldn’t care less haha. Gilmore and him are probably friends. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 19 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Diggs probably couldn’t care less haha. Gilmore and him are probably friends. I wouldn't be surprised. This kind of article is the result of sports writers not having anything to report. Fake news? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plano Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 On 4/5/2020 at 9:33 AM, Bangarang said: Humiliated? No, he wasn’t. yes, yes he was. Literally got his twig ankles snapped and scorched for a td. /thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, C.Biscuit97 said: Tre is awesome. But how can you say they were right? One, they could have kept Gilmore and drafted White. Lockdown central. They could have kept Gilmore and drafted Mahomes or Watson. again, Tre is one of the best in the game. But he’s still a cb. You aren’t “right” if you let a DPOY walk for nothing and pass up 2 top 5 caliber qbs, one who has the chance to be one of best ever. It’s worked out ok for us so far, but we were hardly “right.” How can I say they were right? Well for starters, the Bills made the playoffs the year after Gilmore left. Second of all, Tre could have won DPOTY just as easily, and probably would have if he dressed for the Jets season-ender. And the Bills have shown that they have no trouble identifying CBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 2 hours ago, arcane said: Gilmore is flagged more in NE in general than he was here, though it has always fluctuated on a yearly basis. The only data I can find is from the 2016 and 2017 season. I'm Gilmores last season here he had 54 penalty yards compared to 83 in NE But he was only flagged once for defensive holding. He was flagged 5 times with the Bills prior Where alot of his yards were racked up looks like 2 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Doc said: How can I say they were right? Well for starters, the Bills made the playoffs the year after Gilmore left. Second of all, Tre could have won DPOTY just as easily, and probably would have if he dressed for the Jets season-ender. And the Bills have shown that they have no trouble identifying CBs. Wow. You’re working hard on this one. If the Bills have Mahomes and Gilmore, maybe they win the SB last year. also since the Bills are good at identifying cbs (which I agree with), maybe draft Mahomes/ Watson in the first and draft a cb later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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