Tyrod Taylor tells the media that the chargers will turn heads if He’s the one calling the shots

[thebandit27]

22 minutes ago, MJS said:

Tyrod will get killed. He is not shifty enough to avoid the hard hits like Jackson does, nor do I think he would be as durable.

 

There's not another QB in the league that can run an offense like Baltimore's, but that's just my opinion, I suppose.

The Bills were a top-10 scoring offense with Tyrod running that scheme.

[Buffalo Boy]

8 hours ago, bouds said:

Worry less about how well/poor Tyrod does, and worry more about the the way Allen plays for the Bills.  He was below average last year by every metric.  Fortunately for him the front office has gone out of its way to surround him with a good offense, now it's up to Allen.  I mean, Allen has yet to have a better statistical season than Tyrod, so again, worry about Allen.

Tyrod won the Bills 10 games???

Most important stat!!!

[Punching Bag]

Warning repeating posters inept dribble here:

1 hour ago, sovietsnyper said:

turning heads as they wonder why no passes go further than 3 yards?

 

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

Huh? He hit a bunch of deep throws here

 

1 hour ago, DCOrange said:

I get why people didn't like Tyrod as a QB while he was here. He obviously had a pretty low ceiling as a passer. But comments like this always crack me up. Tyrod ranked among the highest in the league each year in terms of how often he pushed the ball down the field. Allen has been worse in that regard (not to mention just far worse in terms of actual success throwing down the field).

 

The idea that Tyrod only checked it down was a myth. He had plenty of issues as a passer but that wasn't one of them.

 

42 minutes ago, mikemac2001 said:

Tyrod had a great deep ball

 

Here are stats to show the Soviet fact snyper is full of dung:

 

Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate
Care		70	46	23-21-1	839	1362	61.6	9562	54	4.0	20	1.5	438	84	7.0	7.2	11.4	136.6	89.8
4 yr	BAL	14	0		19	35	54.3	199	0	0.0	2	5.7	8	25	5.7	3.1	10.5	14.2	47.2
3 yr	BUF	44	43	22-20-0	774	1236	62.6	8857	51	4.1	16	1.3	410	84	7.2	7.4	11.4	201.3	92.5
1 yr	CLE	4	3	1-1-1	42	85	49.4	473	2	2.4	2	2.4	17	47	5.6	5.0	11.3	118.3	64.5
1 yr	LAC	8	0		4	6	66.7	33	1	16.7	0	0.0	3	14	5.5	8.8	8.3	4.1	120.1
2011	BAL	3	0		1	1	100.0	18	0	0.0	0	0.0		18	18.0	18.0	18.0	6.0	118.7
2012	BAL	7	0		17	29	58.6	179	0	0.0	1	3.4	8	25	6.2	4.6	10.5	25.6	62.3
2013	BAL	3	0		1	5	20.0	2	0	0.0	1	20.0	0	2	0.4	-8.6	2.0	0.7	0.0
2014	BAL	1	0		0	0		0	0		0			0				0.0
2015*	BUF	14	14	7-6-0	242	380	63.7	3035	20	5.3	6	1.6	129	63	8.0	8.3	12.5	216.8	99.4
2016	BUF	15	15	7-8-0	269	436	61.7	3023	17	3.9	6	1.4	148	84	6.9	7.1	11.2	201.5	89.7
2017	BUF	15	14	8-6-0	263	420	62.6	2799	14	3.3	4	1.0	133	47	6.7	6.9	10.6	186.6	89.2
2018	CLE	4	3	1-1-1	42	85	49.4	473	2	2.4	2	2.4	17	47	5.6	5.0	11.3	118.3	64.5
2019	LAC	8	0		4	6	66.7	33	1	16.7	0	0.0	3	14	5.5	8.8	8.3	4.1	120.1

 

[StHustle]

9 hours ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

This will be His third stint, his second was Cleveland

I don't count that. He was playing for one of the worst HCs in NFL History

[sovietsnyper]

10 minutes ago, Limeaid said:

Warning repeating posters inept dribble here:

 

 

 

 

Here are stats to show the Soviet fact snyper is full of dung:

 

Year	Tm	G	GS	QBrec	Cmp	Att	Cmp%	Yds	TD	TD%	Int	Int%	1D	Lng	Y/A	AY/A	Y/C	Y/G	Rate
Care		70	46	23-21-1	839	1362	61.6	9562	54	4.0	20	1.5	438	84	7.0	7.2	11.4	136.6	89.8
4 yr	BAL	14	0		19	35	54.3	199	0	0.0	2	5.7	8	25	5.7	3.1	10.5	14.2	47.2
3 yr	BUF	44	43	22-20-0	774	1236	62.6	8857	51	4.1	16	1.3	410	84	7.2	7.4	11.4	201.3	92.5
1 yr	CLE	4	3	1-1-1	42	85	49.4	473	2	2.4	2	2.4	17	47	5.6	5.0	11.3	118.3	64.5
1 yr	LAC	8	0		4	6	66.7	33	1	16.7	0	0.0	3	14	5.5	8.8	8.3	4.1	120.1
2011	BAL	3	0		1	1	100.0	18	0	0.0	0	0.0		18	18.0	18.0	18.0	6.0	118.7
2012	BAL	7	0		17	29	58.6	179	0	0.0	1	3.4	8	25	6.2	4.6	10.5	25.6	62.3
2013	BAL	3	0		1	5	20.0	2	0	0.0	1	20.0	0	2	0.4	-8.6	2.0	0.7	0.0
2014	BAL	1	0		0	0		0	0		0			0				0.0
2015*	BUF	14	14	7-6-0	242	380	63.7	3035	20	5.3	6	1.6	129	63	8.0	8.3	12.5	216.8	99.4
2016	BUF	15	15	7-8-0	269	436	61.7	3023	17	3.9	6	1.4	148	84	6.9	7.1	11.2	201.5	89.7
2017	BUF	15	14	8-6-0	263	420	62.6	2799	14	3.3	4	1.0	133	47	6.7	6.9	10.6	186.6	89.2
2018	CLE	4	3	1-1-1	42	85	49.4	473	2	2.4	2	2.4	17	47	5.6	5.0	11.3	118.3	64.5
2019	LAC	8	0		4	6	66.7	33	1	16.7	0	0.0	3	14	5.5	8.8	8.3	4.1	120.1

 

Im not being serious guys, jeez

[Big Curt]

8 hours ago, IgotBILLStopay said:

He won’t cost em wins with his arm but... he won’t get em any either. The team will rise or fall depending on how their defense and run game perform.

 

Let us not diss on him too much - in open competition he showed he was better than EJ Manuel but worse than Baker Mayfield.

Baker was the #1 pick in the draft and the team had a losing record.  He never had a chance to start realistically.  Baker just had a magical rookie season, but fell down to Earth last season.  

Edited March 30, 2020 by Big Curt
misspelling

[Punching Bag]

1 minute ago, sovietsnyper said:

Im not being serious guys, jeez

 

Yes when you are called out.

[Gugny]

 

[SlimShady'sSpaceForce]

10 hours ago, jeremy2020 said:

I don't see any reason to beat up on him

 

Yeah.  We've beaten on him enough ...  

 

poor fellow 

[billsfan89]

I think Tyrod is wrong (He is more of a caretaker QB who can make some plays with his legs) but I do hope nothing but the best for him. I know fans here like to treat him like a complete ####### because he wasn't the long term answer at QB but Tyrod was in my opinion the best QB of the drought era and was the QB that ended the drought. So many fans here were clamoring for Peterman to replace Tyrod in 2017 because of how good he looked in the Pre-Season (Yeah that's how delusional the hate of Tyrod was.) I will always root for Tyrod as he was the QB that ended the drought and provided solid QB play for 3 years going slightly above .500 in doing so. 

 

I don't know how any Bills fan can honestly hate Tyrod or think of him as a joke. We all should be rooting for him to some extent. I know this board has a chronic hate of all things Tyrod but I honestly hope that as time goes on he does get remembered as the QB that broke the drought and bridged the Rex to McBeane eras. 

[ColoradoBills]

TT threads....

 

[starrymessenger]

LeSean McCoy said Tyrod was a running back playing quarterback. Pretty much sums up my feelings. If Fitz had been blessed with a stronger arm (maybe like Tyrod's arm) he would have been a very good starting calibre QB. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

9 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

LeSean McCoy said Tyrod was a running back playing quarterback. Pretty much sums up my feelings. If Fitz had been blessed with a stronger arm (maybe like Tyrod's arm) he would have been a very good starting calibre QB. 

Got a link for that? I missed it.

[starrymessenger]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

Got a link for that? I missed it.

 

Sorry I don't. Just my recollection. But he did say it (at least it was reported). I remember being surprised given that they were in the same backfield at the time. 

[Logic]

People really in here talking ***** about a guy who played hard for the Bills, was a class act the whole time, and was the starting quarterback for the team that ended the 17-year playoff drought? 

Shameful. 

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, starrymessenger said:

 

Sorry I don't. Just my recollection. But he did say it (at least it was reported). I remember being surprised given that they were in the same backfield at the time. 

I've not seen that from Mccoy ever. He pretty consistently defended Tyrod from criticism. 

[Formerly Allan in MD]

The Chargers will turn heads downward?

[BuffaloBills1998]

9 minutes ago, BuffaloHokie13 said:

I've not seen that from Mccoy ever. He pretty consistently defended Tyrod from criticism. 

I think that was after we traded Tyrod to Cleveland. That Jaguars game was a disaster, you put any other QB like Andy Dalton or Fitzpatrick and we win that game. Our defense was good enough to keep us in games  

[BuffaloHokie13]

Just now, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I think that was after we traded Tyrod to Cleveland. That Jaguars game was a disaster, you put any other QB like Andy Dalton or Fitzpatrick and we win that game. Our defense was good enough to keep us in games  

I did a cursory search and found nothing. If he said it I'm sure someone would have covered it. 

[hondo in seattle]

What TT lacks as a passer, he partially makes up for as a runner.  Pair Tyrod with a good RB, and opposing defenses need to be prepared to stop two viable running options without entirely being able to neglect the pass.

 

In 2016 when ALynn was calling the plays in Buffalo (after Roman got fired), the Bills offense averaged something like 26 ppg when TT was under center.  That's not spectacular but it's really solid - and significantly better than the 19.6 ppg our Bills averaged last year. 

 

ALynn clearly knows how to maximize TT's unique skill set and work around his weaknesses.   If Chargers can get the right cast around TT, they could potentially score 30 ppg.   At least, that's probably what Tyrod's thinking when he talks about 'turning heads.'

 

I personally like Taylor and would love to see him get his day in the sun.

Edited March 30, 2020 by hondo in seattle

[Gugny]

 

 

 

[FireChans]

1 hour ago, thebandit27 said:

The Bills were a top-10 scoring offense with Tyrod running that scheme.

The same dude who talks about Josh’s total TD percentage is going to give Tyrod credit for 23 total TD’s when the RB’s had career years and rushed for 23 TD’s total. Tygod ranked 19th in total TD’s in that scheme in 2016 btw, whereas Lamar ranked first in 2019 with 44.

1 hour ago, StHustle said:

I don't count that. He was playing for one of the worst HCs in NFL History

Some how Baker did pretty well, whereas Tygod got yanked after completing less than 50% of his passes, going 4-14 with 19 yards and 3 sacks and 22 yards lost in one of the worst first halfs of football of all time against the eventual 4-12 Jets. Baker came in and won the game and the book on TT was mercifully closed.

[thebandit27]

9 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The same dude who talks about Josh’s total TD percentage is going to give Tyrod credit for 23 total TD’s when the RB’s had career years and rushed for 23 TD’s total. Tygod ranked 19th in total TD’s in that scheme in 2016 btw, whereas Lamar ranked first in 2019 with 44.

Some how Baker did pretty well, whereas Tygod got yanked after completing less than 50% of his passes, going 4-14 with 19 yards and 3 sacks and 22 yards lost in one of the worst first halfs of football of all time against the eventual 4-12 Jets. Baker came in and won the game and the book on TT was mercifully closed.

I believe that the point I refuted was that no other QB could run the Roman offense aside from Lamar. I would say that Taylor running the offense resulting in a top-10 finish (actually top-7 prior to the EJ week 17 debacle) qualifies as being able to run the offense.

 

[BringBackFlutie]

11 hours ago, Logic said:

Good for him.

 

Go get ‘em, Tyrod.

 

Oh, and thanks for helping us end the drought. Class act.

TT, Doug Flutie, and Sammy Watkins.

 

Oh, and Gailey and Spiller.

Edited March 30, 2020 by BringBackFlutie
Cant forget Chan's screen game!

[uticaclub]

Tyrod will be the starter until week 3 or 4, just like Cleveland. Great locker room, guy will teach the rookie how to prepare for the game off the field. Midway through Tyrod's first season in Buffalo, I thought that he had everything you could want in backup QB. Tyrod is much more valuable as a backup/mentor than a full time starter

[FireChans]

3 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

I believe that the point I refuted was that no other QB could run the Roman offense aside from Lamar. I would say that Taylor running the offense resulting in a top-10 finish (actually top-7 prior to the EJ week 17 debacle) qualifies as being able to run the offense.

 

Only if a prime Shady and Mikey G are also walking through that door. And a couple ProBowl OL.

[thebandit27]

8 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Only if a prime Shady and Mikey G are also walking through that door. And a couple ProBowl OL.

So if they add a RB to complement Ekeler and draft a LT 6th overall to go with Turner, Pouncey, and Bulaga?

[dave mcbride]

4 hours ago, Mark80 said:

 

Cool, but do you actually watch football?  Or do you just pick and choose the most convenient stats to prove a terrible point?  The guy lasted what, 3 weeks as a starter in Cleveland?  3 Weeks.  In CLEVELAND!

yeah, I do watch football. A lot of it. Offensive and defensive proficiency aren't "convenient stats" proving a "terrible point." As for what he did in Clevelend, he lasted three weeks there because the Browns drafted a QB #1 overall in what was regarded as the richest QB draft in over a decade. 

Edited March 30, 2020 by dave mcbride

[FireChans]

Just now, thebandit27 said:

So if they add a RB to complement Ekeler and draft a LT 6th overall to go with Turner, Pouncey, and Bulaga?

Hah, forgot they got those guys. Fair enough!

[GunnerBill]

1 minute ago, thebandit27 said:

So if they add a RB to complement Ekeler and draft a LT 6th overall to go with Turner, Pouncey, and Bulaga?

 

Do you think they will draft a tackle? They are going QB, surely?

[DCOrange]

Just now, GunnerBill said:

 

Do you think they will draft a tackle? They are going QB, surely?

I think they very well could go tackle there. I'm really curious to see what they end up doing. Certainly wouldn't be shocked by a move up for Tua, but they could also just go tackle at 6 and then move up into the late 1st or wait until their 2nd rounder to get a young QB if they want. If they came out of the draft with the tackle of their choice + Jordan Love for example, I think that would be a major win for them.

[Big Curt]

People...please calm down.  What does the man supposed to say?  "I'm not a starting NFL QB"? " I'm gonna struggle to throw the football"?  "I have zero confidence in my ability to play the position"?  Why is this a topic?  The man is a  confident independent contractor trying to stay in the league.  He's trying to sell himself.    If he doesn't believe in himself, then who will? 

[GunnerBill]

Tyrod is a nice guy. A good teammate. He was a good Bill who gave his all and, at his best, he can be a functional low end game manager of a Quarterback who keeps you in games and lets your defense win some for you. The Bills only had three serviceable QBs in the drought era - Bledsoe for a year, Fitzpatrick and Taylor - and I do appreciate what he did for us but honestly I hated watching him play Quarterback. Yes, it is a stylistic preference, but gimme Fitz any day of the week. And I know he tried to do too much and threw bad picks but he never had a defense worth its salt here and was constantly pressing. I always knew both were not good enough..... but I felt like you had more chance of that lightening in a bottle double digit win season with Fitz. And indeed he had it in New York.... and still missed the playoffs.

[thebandit27]

6 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Hah, forgot they got those guys. Fair enough!

??

 

6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

Do you think they will draft a tackle? They are going QB, surely?

They could certainly go QB. I jut wonder if Telesco and Lynn aren’t thinking that they need a LT badly and are both probably fighting for their jobs this season.

[Phil The Thrill]

12 hours ago, MJS said:

He probably will turn some heads and everyone will talk about how great he is at not turning the ball over, but at the end of the day he doesn't have the upside necessary to do anything of note in the NFL.

 

Still, when you think about it, Tyrod is one of the better QB's in Bills history.

Here’s who have to thank for that:

 

1. Ralph Wilson

2. Buddy Nix

3. Doug Whaley

4. Marv Levy

5. Russ Brandon

[GunnerBill]

2 minutes ago, DCOrange said:

I think they very well could go tackle there. I'm really curious to see what they end up doing. Certainly wouldn't be shocked by a move up for Tua, but they could also just go tackle at 6 and then move up into the late 1st or wait until their 2nd rounder to get a young QB if they want. If they came out of the draft with the tackle of their choice + Jordan Love for example, I think that would be a major win for them.

 

So do I.... I just wonder if they are willing to risk that. I think if you like one of these QBs (and after Burrow and Tua I am wary of all of them) then you need to pick them at #6. I think Herbert and Love will both go day 1.

[Phil The Thrill]

1 hour ago, hondo in seattle said:

What TT lacks as a passer, he partially makes up for as a runner.  Pair Tyrod with a good RB, and opposing defenses need to be prepared to stop two viable running options without entirely being able to neglect the pass.

 

In 2016 when ALynn was calling the plays in Buffalo (after Roman got fired), the Bills offense averaged something like 26 ppg when TT was under center.  That's not spectacular but it's really solid - and significantly better than the 19.6 ppg our Bills averaged last year. 

 

ALynn clearly knows how to maximize TT's unique skill set and work around his weaknesses.   If Chargers can get the right cast around TT, they could potentially score 30 ppg.   At least, that's probably what Tyrod's thinking when he talks about 'turning heads.'

 

I personally like Taylor and would love to see him get his day in the sun.

Meh....he’s a good runner but not Lamar Jackson-good.  He never was at that level and now it’s 3-4 years later. Teams with good defenses could figure out how to stile Tyrod pretty easily.  He has a good deep ball you need to watch out but he’s not going to pick you apart.

 

Tyrod is where he should be - a reliable backup QB that will win you a few games, then lose you a few games 

[r00tabaga]

I loved Tyrod 

[ganesh]

12 hours ago, MJS said:

He probably will turn some heads and everyone will talk about how great he is at not turning the ball over, but at the end of the day he doesn't have the upside necessary to do anything of note in the NFL.

 

Still, when you think about it, Tyrod is one of the better QB's in Bills history.

He broke our playoff drought....for that he definitely gets credit.

[DCOrange]

48 minutes ago, GunnerBill said:

 

So do I.... I just wonder if they are willing to risk that. I think if you like one of these QBs (and after Burrow and Tua I am wary of all of them) then you need to pick them at #6. I think Herbert and Love will both go day 1.

I tend to think Herbert and Love will go Day 1 as well, but I personally wouldn't touch Herbert at 6. I don't think Love would be a bad choice, but in their case I think I would personally just take the tackle they want and see what happens with the QBs. IMO, the best case scenario at QB and worst case scenario are both pretty much the same thing...Tyrod being their starter for at least most of next season. Question is how much they value getting Love or Eason or Hurts for example in the room with Tyrod this year versus just drafting one of the QBs in next year's class.

 

I certainly won't blame them for just taking their QB at 6; it just isn't what I would do in their shoes and my guess is that they'll either trade up for Tua or pass on QB at 6. Might also depend on how invested they are in Lynn. If they still view him as the long-term coach there, I wouldn't be surprised if Lynn likes Hurts a lot and I would guess he doesn't value Eason nearly as much as other teams might.

Edited March 30, 2020 by DCOrange