Rochesterfan Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: See - the NFL looks like the bad guy - the Pegula’s respond and look reasonable, but both Goodell and the NFL knew this was done and they know what plan the Pegula’s want. Now the pressure moves to the financing and how much public money can they get. This is just the NFL doing its job - pushing for as much money as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 17 hours ago, BillsVet said: I love how Goodell talks about how the State and Local Governments have to spend taxpayer dollars to prop up a franchise in his corporation. Especially when cost benefit analyses have demonstrated time and again that building new stadiums does little if anything for the local and state economy. The sad thing about Goodell is that, like his predecessors he'll be in the HOF. He's a weak man who masquerades around as the leader of a sports league that could have grown without him. The very definition of “empty suit.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 12 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: You can't squeeze blood from a stone. exactly, shiny new toys are not going to make Bills fans richer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Why is this topic shocking to anyone? The Bills bought no more than a few years with the most recent minor surgery on the stadium. Those years are pretty much already up! It’ll take yet another three to five years to complete either major surgery or build a totally new facility....maybe longer if land needs to be cobbled together. The clock isn’t just ticking. It’s beating like a loud drum! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: See - the NFL looks like the bad guy - the Pegula’s respond and look reasonable, but both Goodell and the NFL knew this was done and they know what plan the Pegula’s want. Now the pressure moves to the financing and how much public money can they get. This is just the NFL doing its job - pushing for as much money as possible. it's Goodell playing CYA politics with Jerrah and the other moneybags owners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sundancer Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 30 minutes ago, GG said: After 9 pages of discussion of a 2nd hand source, let's put Roger's full comments in here, because there's a lot more there than PFT fire drill note. (Emphasis below is mine) About a year ago, the ownership of the Buffalo Bills commissioned a study about what to do with its stadium situation, either new construction or another upgrade of the circa-1973 New Era Field. What’s your understanding, the league’s understanding, of where that stands from the study, if you could shed light on that, and also, what is your and the league’s position on what should the next steps be for a facility in Buffalo? “Well, as you know, I’ve been involved with negotiations in Buffalo going back into the ’90s. Consistently through that time period, we have focused on the stadium and the importance of the stadium in the context of that, and the need to continue to renovate and/or look to see whether a new stadium is a better answer for the long term. This has been contemplated in the leases right up until, I think, the most recent one, which I believe was 2016, but that is coming to a close. At that point in time, I am hoping that it will continue, and I expect that it will continue to be a collaborative process between the public sector and obviously the Bills. We all want the Buffalo Bills to continue to be in Buffalo, to be successful. A stadium that is going to be competitive with other stadiums around the league is going to be important in that context, and I think everyone is committed to that, whether it is new, significant renovation or whether it is a completely new facility in a new location. I think those are things that the group has to settle collectively and to address over the next several months, if not sooner.” Goodell thinks New Era needs some kind of renovation or a new stadium to drive up ticket prices. I don't really see what New Era is lacking and I've been to some of the new ones. The last thing Buffalo needs is the over-the-top Dallas or Atlanta setup but obviously the NFL likes the optics of those places. As a fan, I have ZERO complaints about New Era. Easy in and out. Food and bathrooms could maybe be a little better but they are not a problem. Box seating is nice. Really not sure what Goodell thinks is lacking from a fan perspective. Edited January 30, 2020 by Sundancer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, WideRightRevenge said: Here's what I know ... it's December 29th, 2019 ... it's week 17 .. virtually no starters are playing the Jets (cause ... we're in the PLAYOFFS baby) .. Hammer's lot was rocking (and he's passing out pieces of old turf to fans with "lucky cards") ... surrounded by friends from around the country before and after a crappy game ... its 48 degrees and raining like hell and the stadium was pretty full. So take your competitive advantage and shove it Roger. Did you get pieces of turf? I was glad to give it away to the Tailgaters in the Lot. People (with out the special Red P card) were offering me $$$ which I refused because it was free & I gave them some. I know doing this wrecks my image. Oh well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I share Sal's opinion on this. Goodell speaking so specifically to a renovation seems like it could possibly mean that the study has been looked at, and it is very favorable to a reno, and that is the way the Pegulas might be going toward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: See - the NFL looks like the bad guy - the Pegula’s respond and look reasonable, but both Goodell and the NFL knew this was done and they know what plan the Pegula’s want. Now the pressure moves to the financing and how much public money can they get. This is just the NFL doing its job - pushing for as much money as possible. Yes, this was as much directed to our politicians in Albany as it was to the people of WNY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Goodell sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammered a Lot Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: Keep me, Hammer, out of the negotiations. I will be in a alcohol induce fog till August! I will say I believe NEF will be renovated based on info I have recently received. Being in the business world I know Nothing is set in stone ( till the ink drys on the contract) till there is an announcement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 11 hours ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Actually they aren’t a bottom market team. Look I get it if you are a little bit older and afraid of how the stadium will impact your taxes. I have encountered a lot of older Buffalo residents like yourself. Buffalo can’t get back to being a great city by living in fear or the past. There are a lot of Erie County residents that simply lack the income to pay any more tax than what they already do. By the time you identify the households that can pay a substantial tax you most likely are talking a multi-thousand dollar increase over multiple years for each property owner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Mat68 said: Without a stadium the Bills leaves. Nope. Not a chance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GG Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, Hammered a Lot said: Keep me, Hammer, out of the negotiations. I will be in a alcohol induce fog till August! I will say I believe NEF will be renovated based on info I have recently received. Being in the business world I know Nothing is set in stone ( till the ink drys on the contract) till there is an announcement. It would be awesome if the can do a partial cover that Dolphins did for their stadium, but I'm not sure that the bowl design can easily accommodate that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 7 hours ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: FU Roger you are nothing but a tyrant who needs to be deposed. The gains the NFL has made isnt because of you its because we love football. Cant wait till your sorry ass is replaced. we dont need your shiny new money guzzler that isnt going to bring in more money but will cost us more. there's ways around that. Bills Mafia ? Goodell is only doing the bidding of the power block of NFL owners namely Jones, Kraft, Snyder, Kroenke, etc.. If he was not then he would be gone already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 hour ago, GG said: whether it is new, significant renovation or whether it is a completely new facility in a new location. "Significant renovation" is the new stance for Goodell and the big takeaway from his remarks, IMO. I suspect he's been given a heads up on the consultant's findings and is spading the ground ahead of the news being released by the Pegula's in a few months. IMO, a new stadium never jibed with WNY's economic reality. Lack of corporate headquarters / luxury suite demand, flat population growth and now the limited appetite of Albany to pitch in, given the state's Medicaid-related deficit woes. The owners may finally be accepting this reality, despite all their past saber rattling... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 23 minutes ago, Lurker said: "Significant renovation" is the new stance for Goodell and the big takeaway from his remarks, IMO. I suspect he's been given a heads up on the consultant's findings and is spading the ground ahead of the news being released by the Pegula's in a few months. IMO, a new stadium never jibed with WNY's economic reality. Lack of corporate headquarters / luxury suite demand, flat population growth and now the limited appetite of Albany to pitch in, given the state's Medicaid-related deficit woes. The owners may finally be accepting this reality, despite all their past saber rattling... Realistically, OP will be the home of the Bills most likely for the next 15 years or so. At the end of that period we will see how far along Buffalo and Rochester are in terms of reinventing themselves economically, how much support has grown from Southern Ontario, and the general state of the NFL as an entertainment venue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 18 hours ago, freddyjj said: Seats, amenities, space in concourses, etc. Exposure to weather ages all exposed components prematurely. She was born in 1973 - hard to make walkways or concourses larger. I guess if games sells out then they sell out. Does a below average stadium hurt the image of the shield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 hours ago, GG said: After 9 pages of discussion of a 2nd hand source, let's put Roger's full comments in here, because there's a lot more there than PFT fire drill note. (Emphasis below is mine) About a year ago, the ownership of the Buffalo Bills commissioned a study about what to do with its stadium situation, either new construction or another upgrade of the circa-1973 New Era Field. What’s your understanding, the league’s understanding, of where that stands from the study, if you could shed light on that, and also, what is your and the league’s position on what should the next steps be for a facility in Buffalo? “Well, as you know, I’ve been involved with negotiations in Buffalo going back into the ’90s. Consistently through that time period, we have focused on the stadium and the importance of the stadium in the context of that, and the need to continue to renovate and/or look to see whether a new stadium is a better answer for the long term. This has been contemplated in the leases right up until, I think, the most recent one, which I believe was 2016, but that is coming to a close. At that point in time, I am hoping that it will continue, and I expect that it will continue to be a collaborative process between the public sector and obviously the Bills. We all want the Buffalo Bills to continue to be in Buffalo, to be successful. A stadium that is going to be competitive with other stadiums around the league is going to be important in that context, and I think everyone is committed to that, whether it is new, significant renovation or whether it is a completely new facility in a new location. I think those are things that the group has to settle collectively and to address over the next several months, if not sooner.” WHAT? Is this some crazy media evil witch Trick, quoting out of context to exacerbate or manipulate a message??? im starting to question whether or not to believe everything I read in the internet.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Announced today that China is pulling out of its NBA telecasts. Reports are that the salary cap will be reduced due to this. China isn’t funding the NFL, are they??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Seems unique to the NBA... China's decision to pull sponsorships and television coverage because Houston Rockets general manager Daryl Morey tweeted support for anti-government protesters in Hong Kong in October is believed to have cost the NBA anywhere between $150 million and $200 million, league sources said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Everyone knows that the best place to watch an NFL game is at a stadium, with all its amenities and reasonable affordability. ...said some insane person. NFL, feel free to grab the profit you can. However, to focus on the stadium aspect of $$$ going forward is "like a long wait for a train that won't come". It is tired thinking by tired people...do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillsfootball Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 15 hours ago, loyal2dagame said: I agree on your first two points, however........ point #3: Build an all new state of the art Stadium/Convention Center downtown near Canalside. There are better things to develop near the waterfront than a stadium- point #4: I don't buy the BS about downtown not having the infrastructure to support a stadium - the city was once 4 times in size and population. The city doesn't have the infrastructure in place. When Buffalo had "4 times in size and population", It was at a time when families had 1 car. Not 2-4. People actually used buses back then. You do have the 2 lane Skyway leading to Rte 5 and the 3 lane 190 as express routes out of the city. And if a new stadium is near Canalside, there will be huge traffic backups to get to the 33. What do you do when wind or blowing snow closes the skyway on a game day? Everything comes to a stand still. This doesn't work. point #5: There are also multiple modes of transportation to the City v Orchard Park. ??? seems like the same transportation beside the metro rail. point #6: You don't spend $500M on an old stadium in Orchard Park - which could not be further than the fastest growing area in the region: Southern Ontario. I agree that New Era shouldn't have money sunk into it. But, Orchard Park is less than 10 minutes from downtown Buffalo. 10 minutes isn't going to make or break Southern Ontario Bills/NFL fans. 1) When I say near CANALSIDE, I'm referring to the open areas behind the Buffalo News near the Casino. I went to the Steelers game in December - and after TAILGATING - we walked to the Casino to warm up before the game. It was a lot of fun and FILLED with Bills fans. 2) Sorry, I stand by my statement. Between the Metro, Amtrak, tons of hotels, tons of parking all along the Metro and in the Central Business District, and the street grids - people have MULTIPLE ways to get to the stadium. 3) And your last point about Canadians - BS. Between stopping at the bridge for customs and driving south to the stadium - it takes WAY more than 10 minutes. Nice try. You build this stadium so its easier for your stakeholders to get to the stadium. You build this new stadium closer to amenities already established downtown. 4) I love tailgating... but I'm also not a juvenile and will find alternative ways to party before/after the game if the stadium is downtown. I know we are loyal bunch and love our tailgating - but in order for us to sustain the BUFFALO Bills - we need to keep up with Jones - and invest in our city core - not OP. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 The Bills will do one of three things. 1. A Nice New Stadium Downtown - Likely (the TailGate City is part of the market research for a limited space tailgate down town) 2. A Nice New Stadium in OP - Next LIkely 3. A Major Remodel like in the 500M range of New Era - Less Likely Either way get ready for major price increases 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The Bills will do one of three things. 1. A Nice New Stadium Downtown - Likely (the TailGate City is part of the market research for a limited space tailgate down town) 2. A Nice New Stadium in OP - Next LIkely 3. A Major Remodel like in the 500M range of New Era - Less Likely Either way get ready for major price increases Reverse the order. Who is coming up with the stadium costs plus incidentals for downtown? Remodel is the least expensive way to go and most realistic. Building next to New Era would be next as a minimum of changes and studies would need to be done. Downtown opens a whole new can of worms in terms of players who need to be bought off to get a project done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 20 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: that cowboys game on thanksgiving was in a pretty new stadium, right? Jus saying. arrowhead opened in 1972, right? And we got hosed by the refs in that game too. We just dominated and overcame it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/30/arthur-blank-mentions-expansion-when-asked-about-toronto/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, T master said: https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/01/30/arthur-blank-mentions-expansion-when-asked-about-toronto/ As I said before Pegula needs to put his foot down in terms of Ontario including Toronto being HIS territory. You know if Jones or Kraft were here that would have been made CLEAR by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Reverse the order. Who is coming up with the stadium costs plus incidentals for downtown? Remodel is the least expensive way to go and most realistic. Building next to New Era would be next as a minimum of changes and studies would need to be done. Downtown opens a whole new can of worms in terms of players who need to be bought off to get a project done. Where are the Bills playing during a major remodel? What are the Hidden Costs in a Major Remodel? Pegulas will want their stadium for the Bills where they are building their empire, and that will be DOWNTOWN Buffalo. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffalobillsfootball Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 17 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: Reverse the order. Who is coming up with the stadium costs plus incidentals for downtown? Remodel is the least expensive way to go and most realistic. Building next to New Era would be next as a minimum of changes and studies would need to be done. Downtown opens a whole new can of worms in terms of players who need to be bought off to get a project done. It's ok - everyone has a preference. Yours is OP. We get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 10 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Pegulas will want their stadium for the Bills where they are building their empire, and that will be DOWNTOWN Buffalo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 Just now, Lurker said: Billionaires do though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 3 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: Where are the Bills playing during a major remodel? What are the Hidden Costs in a Major Remodel? Pegulas will want their stadium for the Bills where they are building their empire, and that will be DOWNTOWN Buffalo. I don't think you read what I actually wrote. If a new stadium goes into OP it will be built next to NE then when complete NE gets demolished. Parking gets screwed up for a year or two but the area can handle it. This means the Bills play in NE until the new stadium is complete. Just like what was done in the Meadowlands. I think that you meant "What are the hidden costs in building downtown?" Environmental impact studies. Eminent domain. removal of hazardous materials whether it be from abandoned homes such as with lead and asbestos or industrial materials from a brown field site. Nuisance lawsuits designed to get graft for a select few. All that is in addition to utility upgrades, runoff and drainage control, roadway modification and changes/new construction to name a few. 100 million was the figure tossed around for all that on the old BBMB by people who actually had some idea as to how development planning is done. Pegula's will build where it makes financial sense for them. That could be any number of places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 33 minutes ago, buffalobillsfootball said: 1) When I say near CANALSIDE, I'm referring to the open areas behind the Buffalo News near the Casino. I went to the Steelers game in December - and after TAILGATING - we walked to the Casino to warm up before the game. It was a lot of fun and FILLED with Bills fans. 2) Sorry, I stand by my statement. Between the Metro, Amtrak, tons of hotels, tons of parking all along the Metro and in the Central Business District, and the street grids - people have MULTIPLE ways to get to the stadium. 3) And your last point about Canadians - BS. Between stopping at the bridge for customs and driving south to the stadium - it takes WAY more than 10 minutes. Nice try. You build this stadium so its easier for your stakeholders to get to the stadium. You build this new stadium closer to amenities already established downtown. 4) I love tailgating... but I'm also not a juvenile and will find alternative ways to party before/after the game if the stadium is downtown. I know we are loyal bunch and love our tailgating - but in order for us to sustain the BUFFALO Bills - we need to keep up with Jones - and invest in our city core - not OP. Most people aren't riding a train, metro rail or bus to get to a game. There are plenty of hotels within minutes of NEF. Have you ever attempted to leave downtown buffalo in any direction when the skyway is closed from weather? Takes hours and traffic doesn't move. The point about Canadians, I thought that we all knew about the boarder/ customs. I guess not. My point was that Orchard Park is 10 minutes from buffalo. Whether the stadium is in OP or downtown, our Canadian Bills fans are going through customs. 10 additional minutes to OP doesn't ruin the trip. Edited January 30, 2020 by loyal2dagame 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 1 minute ago, buffalobillsfootball said: It's ok - everyone has a preference. Yours is OP. We get it. Pro downtown people here have not said where the money is coming from. Goodell wants the state to come up with the vast majority of the money and I don't see how this will happen. Pegula's using all their money on a comparatively modest return is a look the NFL does NOT want. People might get the idea that NFL owners should shoulder their own projects instead of the taxpayers/state if the Pegula's self fund. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) The Pegulas are in a tough spot with public money. If everyone believes that they would never move the team and it will be here forever, then there is absolutely zero fear/leverage to get public $$. His Majesty in Albany and our county executive will just say "well, they aren't moving the team so we don't feel the need to cough up any significant $$" But they can't make the type of threats that Mr. Wilson constantly had to make in order to force action on the part of the state, city, and county. Nobody would believe them. So other owners and the commissioner need to be the ones rattling cages. I think that's what is going on. I wonder how significant renovations would need to be to New Era in order to make it worthwhile. If it lasts 10-15 years and costs $300-$500 million, it seems like a waste. Edited January 30, 2020 by TheFunPolice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: I don't think you read what I actually wrote. If a new stadium goes into OP it will be built next to NE then when complete NE gets demolished. Parking gets screwed up for a year or two but the area can handle it. This means the Bills play in NE until the new stadium is complete. Just like what was done in the Meadowlands. I think that you meant "What are the hidden costs in building downtown?" Environmental impact studies. Eminent domain. removal of hazardous materials whether it be from abandoned homes such as with lead and asbestos or industrial materials from a brown field site. Nuisance lawsuits designed to get graft for a select few. All that is in addition to utility upgrades, runoff and drainage control, roadway modification and changes/new construction to name a few. 100 million was the figure tossed around for all that on the old BBMB by people who actually had some idea as to how development planning is done. Pegula's will build where it makes financial sense for them. That could be any number of places. I read what you wrote. You said reverse the Order. Meaning the Major Remodel is the No 1 Choice. So again I ask where are the Bills going to play during a Major Remodel? What will the Hidden Costs Be in a Major Remodel, there are always some, look at a gut job on a house, you plan a budget of 75K and it ends up ballooning because once you break into the walls there is more that needs to be done. That 500M budget for a major remodel can easily grow to the price of a brand new build. I can pretty much guarantee that their study they have completed looks very similar to my list, and hence why the instituted Tail Gate City (or whatever they called it). They want to see what the foot traffic is in that when tailgating space gets limited. (Hence a down town stadium). And I bet it will be a smaller stadium, and ticket prices are going up. Edited January 30, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 a downtown location makes the most sense for a new stadium just because it has the highest chance of getting public $$ Otherwise, I would build it in OP in the current parking lot or nearby. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RochesterRob Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 4 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I read what you wrote. You said reverse the Order. Meaning the Major Remodel is the No 1 Choice. So again I ask where are the Bills going to play during a Major Remodel? What will the Hidden Costs Be in a Major Remodel, there are always some, look at a gut job on a house, you plan a budget of 75K and it ends up ballooning because once you break into the walls there is more that needs to be done. That 500M budget for a major remodel can easily grow to the price of a brand new build. I can pretty much guarantee that their study they have completed looks very similar to my list, and hence why the instituted Tail Gate City (or whatever they called it). They want to see what the foot traffic is in that when tailgating space gets limited. (Hence a down town stadium). Depends on how they want to do the remodel. Do they have to do all sections at once or do they have the option of working on one section during the offseason that can be complete by opening day? Then do the next section when the next offseason is here. Past upgrades were done without disturbing the schedule and to this point no known issues existed with the substructure. KC and GB played without disruption when they did their work. Worse case scenario is UB for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave mcbride Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 36 minutes ago, RochesterRob said: As I said before Pegula needs to put his foot down in terms of Ontario including Toronto being HIS territory. You know if Jones or Kraft were here that would have been made CLEAR by now. Blank is clear in saying that he's not necessarily advocating expansion. This is obviously a shot across the bow - i.e., WNY needs to wake up because the option you thought was dead - a move to Toronto - ain't dead. Note that a) Blank is saying this right after Goodell made his comments, and b) Goodell is a mouthpiece not for himself, but for the owners who employ him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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