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1 hour ago, Magox said:

 

You are correct that the universities are essentially running sweeps that are testing symptomatic and asymptomatic individuals.  It's hard to know what the prevalency of those colleges are without knowing the fall admissions. 

 

 

However, we do have this number which dates back over a week ago.  If you estimate that the average student admissions are about 10k for the fall semester (I'm totally guessing here) then the prevalency is about 10% or so.    This also takes into account only ACTIVE cases.   

 

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The country as a whole which takes into account the colleges and schools have steadily been dropping.  Even in the face of all this, it's encouraging to seeing drops considering a statistically notable portion of them come from the universities.  

 

I would suspect that anywhere from 2-10% of these students had COVID previously that are not recorded in these numbers.

 

 

 

I find this interesting. Do you have a link as to where you got this? I would love to read it further.

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1 hour ago, BillStime said:

Trump knew and gambled with 200,000+ deaths.

 

You are responsible Trump voters - how you can justify another vote for this mediocrity is a disgrace.

 

You don’t care about America.

 

 

They don’t care. What is it out this incompetent blow hard they worship so much? 

 

 

Racism just just seems to make people corrupt, stupid and mean 

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2 hours ago, BillStime said:

Trump knew and gambled with 200,000+ deaths.

 

You are responsible Trump voters - how you can justify another vote for this mediocrity is a disgrace.

 

You don’t care about America.

 

 

Let me get this straight...

Trump caused 200k deaths but those who called travel bans zenophobic didn't?

Trump could have stopped this somehow? If so tell me how? Quarantining didn't work.

 

Sorry you're writing lunacy. 

 

Worse the left said the answer is social distancing and got health officials to say people protesting the quarantines were super spreaders, but having mass protests won't do anything. 

 

Next, I don't believe the death toll numbers as caused by Covid, in the same way I don't believe the gov't was immunizing Guatemalans while giving them gonorrhea.

https://www.colorlines.com/articles/us-gov-secretly-infected-thousands-guatemalans-stds

History proves everything during an election year is political. 

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Trump knew in November and denied and downplayed the severity - sorry you can’t keep up but I expect that with Trumpholes.
 

Thanks for doing your part in destroying America - hope you’re proud.

 

You might have heard of the post hoc fallacy but I doubt you made it that far in school. Don't worry I can hear you copying and pasting in Google now. 

 

Next I never argue death with people who believe in abortion. I find its a tad ironic people who believe in murdering children. 

 

Last, aren't you part of the group of "don't judge" and morality is subjective? Sounds like you haven't figured that one out too. 

 

Keep going...

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4 hours ago, The Frankish Reich said:

The average incubation period appears to be longer than previously thought.

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3096653/coronavirus-average-incubation-period-may-be-longer-first

There is a reasonable argument that presumptively infected persons should self-isolate for longer than 14 days, but as with all such things there's an attempt to reach a balance here. 14 days definitely isn't "arbitrary" but that's not to say the standard shouldn't be adjusted based on experience with the disease.

now that's the kind of rock solid data you can rely on

 

modeling from the Wuhan group which projects the incubation to be longer than thought

 

too bad we don't have any scientists in the US that could use US data to compute actual incubation periods.

we could actually gain some insight from the most "cases" in the world

 

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15 hours ago, fansince88 said:

I find this interesting. Do you have a link as to where you got this? I would love to read it further.

 

Here's the Tweet and the references are in a thread there. 

 

His case counts are wrong--not just dated but he's pulling at least in one example, the wrong data. Also most of the Tweeter's sources DO NOT identify if college kids were hospitalized so the data is not verified or verifiable. I know because my alma mater is on this list and so is another school I watch and neither one publishes hospitalization data. 

 

Not a good source but I still believe it's true that college kids are doing just fine. 

 

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1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

The fact that Trump is turning the left into anti-vaxxers is one of the most hilarious parts of 2020. And this guy, besides his love of Epstein he shows his true color here. "Don't trust a vaccine but for the one I make". He's not a good guy. 


I’m old enough to remember when the country’s opinion of Bill Gates looked like this:

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

WHO COULD HAVE SEEN THIS COMING? 

 

Poll finds surge in loneliness among older adults during pandemic.

 

and let me tell you, after decades of working with seniors,

 

this is NO small thing.

 

 

My best friend and co-worker has not returned to work.  He's 62 and is very worried about how this virus could hurt him.  He said he went to a restaurant for the first time in 6 months (and he's a big foodie) and he said he felt very uncomfortable being in public.  That is NO way to go through life.  I feel really bad for him.  He's not that old but has had some health issues which concerns him.  I've been trying to get him to get healthier for years.  Now maybe he'll listen to me.  

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13 minutes ago, Chef Jim said:

 

My best friend and co-worker has not returned to work.  He's 62 and is very worried about how this virus could hurt him.  He said he went to a restaurant for the first time in 6 months (and he's a big foodie) and he said he felt very uncomfortable being in public.  That is NO way to go through life.  I feel really bad for him.  He's not that old but has had some health issues which concerns him.  I've been trying to get him to get healthier for years.  Now maybe he'll listen to me.  

Do you tell him to wear a mask in public?  That’s a good way of staying healthy. 

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2 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

How many can he kill? He is going to have more rallies, I bet Trump can kill tens of thousands more of his own supporters. 

 

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Not sure of exact numbers, but I can tell you that it's in the works! 

 

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Just watched her appearance on Tucker. Language barrier was tough, but she claims to have nucleotide sequence data that proves it could not have originated from nature...so not from a wet market. Major claim is that it was a purposely engineered virus, not one that was simply being cultured in a government lab and managed to escape outside. I still haven't read her recently published paper and she says another will be published soon. Like many things these days this at minimum deserves more attention from what few honest journalists remain.

 

 

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37 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said:

Just watched her appearance on Tucker. Language barrier was tough, but she claims to have nucleotide sequence data that proves it could not have originated from nature...so not from a wet market. Major claim is that it was a purposely engineered virus, not one that was simply being cultured in a government lab and managed to escape outside. I still haven't read her recently published paper and she says another will be published soon. Like many things these days this at minimum deserves more attention from what few honest journalists remain.

 

 

It makes sense.  If you've got an aging, expensive elderly population...

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4 minutes ago, Bakin said:

Everyday 8000 people die in the US. 
what is it now?

 

It's not 1000 a day.

 

Only low info Karens glued to CNN think this.

 

The rolling averages are what to look at bc these "daily" death counts often include numbers from weeks ago.  Regardless, the main takeaway which of course, our friends on the far left refuse to acknowledge, is the very reason for mitigation (overwhelmed hospitals) HAS NEVER HAPPENED.  That was THE DEAL. DO NOT ALL GET IT AT ONCE.  Well, over 25% of us got it.  How did we hold up?  What were the models telling us hospitalizations would be again WITH mitigation:

 

*checks tape*

 

Every state was doing modeling.  PA was predicted in late March that it would see 100,000 hospitalizations.  100,000!  In Pennsylvania.  With Distancing.  https://www.post-gazette.com/news/health/2020/03/27/COVID-19-coronavirus-University-Pittsburgh-hospitalization-FRED-pandemic-model-case-study/stories/202003230067

 

Pennsylvania has had 150K "cases!"  Yet this was the stuff States were telling their people.  No one has been fired I'm assuming.  

 

National models said the U.S. would see 20 million hospitalizations in worst case scenarios.

 

So far:  389,000.  Total.  We have over 1 million beds available daily.  Total ICUs:  18K.  

 

https://covidtracking.com/data/national/hospitalization

 

 

For a month we've been around 700-800 deaths "with Covid" a day.  Remember, the CDC has said less than 10% are actually from Covid.  

 

7300 Americans die from something else everyday.  You can wear a mask to try and prevent one of those causes from happening to you it would be just as effective as it is against Covid.  

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3 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

For a month we've been around 700-800 deaths "with Covid" a day.  Remember, the CDC has said less than 10% are actually from Covid.  

 

7300 Americans die from something else everyday.  You can wear a mask to try and prevent one of those causes from happening to you it would be just as effective as it is against Covid.  

What are the average deaths in the US so far this year compared to the average year?

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5 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

What are the average deaths in the US so far this year compared to the average year?


They are higher. That’s how we measure there’s a pandemic. This CDC chart shows the pandemic level (orange line) vs observed, with the + indicating weeks showing deaths in excess of defined pandemic levels. 

 

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In other news, good article highlighting how Europe is adopting the Republican approach to the virus finally. Imagine this world...Dems mock the Euros and Reps follow them. 
 

Having abandoned hopes of eradicating the virus or developing a vaccine within weeks, Europeans have largely gone back to work and school, leading lives as normally as possible amid an enduring pandemic that has already killed nearly 215,000 in Europe.

 

The approach contrasts sharply to the United States, where restrictions to protect against the virus have been politically divisive and where many regions have pushed ahead with reopening schools, shops and restaurants without having baseline protocols in place. The result has been nearly as many deaths as in Europe, though among a far smaller population.

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/15/world/europe/coronavirus-europe.html?action=click&module=RelatedLinks&pgtype=Article

 

 

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1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

What are the average deaths in the US so far this year compared to the average year?

 

I believe you're being rhetorical, but it's higher and but nobody will really know the full toll until time passes.  Seems to take 3 months to fill int he data.  THere was a good blip (excess death) that exceeds the normal death rate for the year so far (>200k).  As more time passes, I expect a similar lull in numbers as we've weeded out the weak population that the flu, cancer, etc would have killed later this year.  This opinion is terribly harsh, but so is life and death.  Deal with it.  

 

By mid 2021 let's get back together and dissect the numbers, I think we'll see this sucked, but not as bad as everyone wants it to be.

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