The Next Pandemic: SARS-CoV-2/COVID-19

[leh-nerd skin-erd]

1 hour ago, plenzmd1 said:

you mean this guy? Glad to know science on infectious disease has changed so dramatically in 6 months

 

and , also  this from August 

 

But now, magically, the masks is more effective than a vaccine prtecting ne from the viru

 

Just to be clear we have gone from 

 

No Masks

to

Masks to protect you from me..no protection for me

 

to

 

Masks will absolutely protect me from getting the virus.

 

Really is a shame fellow Never Trumpers are falling for this sham..i talk to more and more people ever day with my beliefs that are starting to lean towards voting Trump over this mess. If the press and " scientists" and politicians will lie and mislead with millions of lives and livelihoods at stake to push a political agenda, i sure as poop know they lie about anything

 

 

We saved a seat on the couch for you.  We all got here from somewhere. 

[Big Blitz]

15 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

 

Already contesting an election that has not taken place. Not hard to see who is losing 

 

 

Odd.

 

I didn't say which candidate the lockdowns and capacity rules were hurting more.

 

You don't think Biden would love to hold massive rallies in Florida or Pennsylvania right now?  

 

 

Interesting you immediately assumd its Trump it hurts most.  I wonder if that's exactly what Big Ten Governors think.  

 

 

Edited September 17, 2020 by Big Blitz

[Bray Wyatt]

28 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

Most rigged election in history.  

 

Biggest sham of all time. 

 

Hey....remember when they insisted DeSantis was fudging numbers to make him look good?

 

Turns out these warped lunatics get good data and don't want you to know.  This is probably happening in every Democrat city and State.  In order to rig the election:

 

COVID-19 emails from Nashville mayor's office show disturbing revelation

 

The coronavirus cases on lower Broadway may have been so low that the mayor’s office and the Metro Health Department decided to keep it secret.

 

Emails between the mayor’s senior advisor and the health department reveal only a partial picture. But what they reveal is disturbing.

 

The discussion involves the low number of coronavirus cases emerging from bars and restaurants and how to handle that.

 

And most disturbingly, how to keep it from the public.

 

On June 30th, contact tracing was given a small view of coronavirus clusters. Construction and nursing homes were found to be causing problems with more than a thousand cases traced to each category, but bars and restaurants reported just 22 cases.

 

Leslie Waller from the health department asks, “This isn’t going to be publicly released, right? Just info for Mayor’s Office?"

 

“Correct, not for public consumption,” writes senior advisor Benjamin Eagles.

 

A month later, the health department was asked point blank about the rumor there are only 80 cases traced to bars and restaurants.

 

Tennessean reporter Nate Rau asks, “The figure you gave of 'more than 80' does lead to a natural question: If there have been over 20,000 positive cases of COVID-19 in Davidson and only 80 or so are traced to restaurants and bars, doesn’t that mean restaurants and bars aren’t a very big problem?"

 

Health department official Brian Todd asked five health department officials, "Please advise how you recommend I respond. "

The name at the top of the response is clipped off but you may find the answer unacceptable.

 

“My two cents. We have certainly refused to give counts per bar because those numbers are low per site.

 

We could still release the total though, and then a response to the over 80 could be because that number is increasing all the time and we don’t want to say a specific number."

 

Neither the health department nor the mayor’s office would confirm the authenticity of the emails but councilmember Steve Glover had a Metro staff attorney inquire. Here’s the official answer:

 

“I was able to get verification from the Mayor’s Office and the Department of Health that these emails are real,” the staff attorney answered.

Glover says this is Metro Nashville orchestrating a cover up.

 

"They are fabricating information," Glover said. "They’ve blown there entire credibility Dennis. Its gone, I don’t trust a thing they say going forward ...nothing."

 

 

https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation

 

That's insane. My wife and I watch fox 17 news every morning and not a mention of it. I cant imagine how this would hurt the business downtown as those are the industries they rely on, and what tourists comes to see. Then he had been saying how he needed to hike property taxes by 34% to help make up for lost revenue, and he actually got it passed to the dismay of many people who live in Nashville. What a scum bag

[spartacus]

58 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

 

Now Redield says "wear masks as they are more effective than a vaccine will be in protecting you from the virus"

 

 

So either these guys were quacks and frauds and should not have been in their jobs in the first place...or  they are pandering to masses. 

 

A

 

 

you are missing the subtle message.

1. masks are worthless, as originally stated

2. he is now saying that vaccines are less than worthless

 

[Chef Jim]

1 hour ago, ALF said:

In parts of rural Indonesia, those caught without masks must dig graves for Covid-19 victims.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/17/us/five-things-september-17-trnd/index.html

Hey that’s a great idea. 🙄

[spartacus]

for the scientists in the crowd to validate

 

The science says it's nearly impossible for a child who hasn't gone through puberty yet to get Covid-19 (84) because the AEC2 gene isn't expressed yet and that is what allows the Virus to enter the cell.

[Tiberius]

2 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

Odd.

 

I didn't say which candidate the lockdowns and capacity rules were hurting more.

 

You don't think Biden would love to hold massive rallies in Florida or Pennsylvania right now?  

 

 

Interesting you immediately assumd its Trump it hurts most.  I wonder if that's exactly what Big Ten Governors think.  

 

 

LOl, no, I just know your side is losing badly so you are screaming the election is rigged. 

[Reality Check]

26 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

LOl, no, I just know your side is losing badly so you are screaming the election is rigged. 

 

[Buffalo_Gal]

 

 

 

 

 

I tried to post these so all the posters could be seen without clicking to twitter. Apparently, that is not possible. Still, you can get enough of the gist.

 

[Bakin]

4 hours ago, Tiberius said:

You are a Trumper, impossible to prove something to a closed minded person. 

You are an Anti-Trumper - a true cultist...

Your side has been wrong over...and over...and over....and over....

and sore losers too, which makes this all so tiresome...

[Tiberius]

1 minute ago, Bakin said:

You are an Anti-Trumper - a true cultist...

Your side has been wrong over...and over...and over....and over....

and sore losers too, which makes this all so tiresome...

You follow a pathological liar 

[Bakin]

6 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You follow a pathological liar 

You, yourself, are a pathological liar....

Big difference....

[Tiberius]

Just now, Bakin said:

You, yourself, are a pathological liar....

Big difference....

No 

[Dante]

I know this is wide spread national. They are all liars. At the very least there should be lawsuits flying all over the place. The stress and damage criminal governors/mayors is unforgivable. These aholes have way too much power over us

 

 

https://fox17.com/news/local/covid-19-emails-from-nashville-mayors-office-show-disturbing-revelation

14 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said:

 

 

 

 

 

I tried to post these so all the posters could be seen without clicking to twitter. Apparently, that is not possible. Still, you can get enough of the gist.

 

In other words, it's the same as it's ever been with the flu. But I'm the "Covid is a hoax" guy.

[shoshin]

6 hours ago, BillsToast said:

 

So we have to dismiss the largest sample size with the most death with the city that complied the hardest with the lock-down? 

 

NYC complied with a lockdown after it was already screwed, back when you couldn't even buy masks, and before we had agreed-upon effective treatments (back then, they were still putting patients on their backs and thought ventilators were a good idea...and were just throwing random drugs at people and praying). There is also not one single city in America like NYC. It's different in density and lifestyle from every city in America. The lesson for how to treat a pandemic in NYC in April is not the lesson for how you treat a pandemic in Atlanta in July.  

 

We should look at the death toll, survival and hospitalization rates, and other Covid statistics after mid-May to predict how Covid will impact places not yet impacted. 

 

As to why you don't know anyone who died from it and all that, I can't speak to your experience and where you live. 200,000 deaths, mostly elderly, is not some small number but spread across 330,000,000 Americans, it's not large either. My wife works with older people and she knows many. Depends on the populations you know and work with. 

[BUFFALOTONE]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

Now they say wear them. What's so hard about that? They have been wearing them for months. You learn and act on that. 

 

You think they are lying or just confused? 

Already contesting an election that has not taken place. Not hard to see who is losing 

If we have been wearing them for months as you say and the virus continues to spread are the masks really doing that much at this point??

[Deranged Rhino]

 

Games on games on games. 

 

All for an election.

[Tiberius]

18 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

If we have been wearing them for months as you say and the virus continues to spread are the masks really doing that much at this point

Who’s been wearing masks? 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

4 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Who’s been wearing masks? 

 

 

[BUFFALOTONE]

7 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

Who’s been wearing masks? 

Last I checked everyone. 

[Unforgiven]

57 minutes ago, Tiberius said:

You follow a pathological liar 

...and you are a hateful inciter and a pathological liar.

[BUFFALOTONE]

2 minutes ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

 

Small population of morons...

[WEATHER DOT COM]

3 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

Last I checked everyone. 

 

 

[BUFFALOTONE]

1 minute ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

 

That's a small segment of the population and youre cherry picking. They are addressing folks who are sitting in the sun and from the looks of it are socially distanced. 

[IDBillzFan]

36 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

If we have been wearing them for months as you say and the virus continues to spread are the masks really doing that much at this point??

 

Ask him why CA and NY are releasing prisoners if masks work.

 

That usually makes him disappear for a day or two.

[LB3]

5 hours ago, plenzmd1 said:

Really is a shame fellow Never Trumpers are falling for this sham..i talk to more and more people ever day with my beliefs that are starting to lean towards voting Trump over this mess. If the press and " scientists" and politicians will lie and mislead with millions of lives and livelihoods at stake to push a political agenda, i sure as poop know they lie about anything

 

 

The panic porn has shown a ton of people to how awful the media is these days. You commented on an article in the OTW thread. It was about the 28 year old teacher who died with Covid. I had written a similar response, but ended up not posting it. That article was as incendiary as it was misleading and it was by design. The sad part is how many people read that and just think we need to close all schools and lockdown the country. The dismissal of the harm caused by the lockdowns has been disgusting. 

[BUFFALOTONE]

1 minute ago, IDBillzFan said:

 

Ask him why CA and NY are releasing prisoners if masks work.

 

That usually makes him disappear for a day or two.

IDC about the political nonsense. But a large majority of the population is wearing them. 

1 minute ago, LB3 said:

The panic porn has shown a ton of people to how awful the media is these days. You commented on an article in the OTW thread. It was about the 28 year old teacher who died with Covid. I had written a similar response, but ended up not posting it. That article was as incendiary as it was misleading and it was by design. The sad part is how many people read that and just think we need to close all schools and lockdown the country. The dismissal of the harm caused by the lockdowns has been disgusting. 

What did she die of then? Just curious as I read the same article where it said 6 teachers have died since resuming school. 

[LB3]

4 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

IDC about the political nonsense. But a large majority of the population is wearing them. 

What did she die of then? Just curious as I read the same article where it said 6 teachers have died since resuming school. 

She was teaching from home. She wasn't around students.

[IDBillzFan]

2 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

IDC about the political nonsense.

 

Is it really political nonsense or government hypocrisy?

 

We're told wearing masks works, but then we're told we have to release thousands of prisoners because, apparently, masks don't work in prisons.

 

We're told wearing masks works, but see the politicians telling us to wear masks NOT wearing masks or social distancing.

 

Doesn't that reek of hypocrisy to you? Doesn't that make you wonder where the truth lies? 

[ALF]

Ex-RNC Chair Michael Steele blasts Trump supporters: ‘Yeah, I’m with stupid'

 

Ex-Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele found himself trending on social media after bashing Trump supporters on MSNBC Wednesday night for continuing to stand by the president.

 

“I’ve talked to enough of them over the last few days. I’m exhausted, I’m exasperated. You know, at this point, it’s like, save who you can save. Because there’s only so much you can do, there’s only so much you can say. The fact that we have to literally beg people to wear a mask to save their own dumb a-- from getting sick, I’m sorry. To me, it is beyond the imagination... I am just so exhausted with this president,” Steele told MSNBC’s Brian Williams.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/michael-steele-trump-im-with-stupid

[spartacus]

12 minutes ago, ALF said:

Ex-RNC Chair Michael Steele blasts Trump supporters: ‘Yeah, I’m with stupid'

 

Ex-Republican National Committee Chair Michael Steele found himself trending on social media after bashing Trump supporters on MSNBC Wednesday night for continuing to stand by the president.

 

“I’ve talked to enough of them over the last few days. I’m exhausted, I’m exasperated. You know, at this point, it’s like, save who you can save. Because there’s only so much you can do, there’s only so much you can say. The fact that we have to literally beg people to wear a mask to save their own dumb a-- from getting sick, I’m sorry. To me, it is beyond the imagination... I am just so exhausted with this president,” Steele told MSNBC’s Brian Williams.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/media/michael-steele-trump-im-with-stupid

seems like the non-mask wearers are smart enough to under stand the science behind masks and discount the fear porn

Edited September 17, 2020 by spartacus

[Tiberius]

32 minutes ago, BUFFALOTONE said:

Last I checked everyone. 

Really, wow 

32 minutes ago, Unforgiven said:

...and you are a hateful inciter and a pathological liar.

nope 

[Tiberius]

25 minutes ago, spartacus said:

seems like the non-mask wearers are smart enough to under stand the science behind masks and discount the fear

No! They are not smart enough to understand anything. 

[SectionC3]

1 hour ago, Bakin said:

You, yourself, are a pathological liar....

Big difference....

 

Rule #2 on the first sentence, please. 

[Big Blitz]

1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said:

 

Games on games on games. 

 

All for an election.

 

 

This is worse then Obamagate.

 

1000x worse.  

[Big Blitz]

3 hours ago, Tiberius said:

LOl, no, I just know your side is losing badly so you are screaming the election is rigged. 

 

 

 

Biden needs to tell these Governors its time to open up and let him actually campaign and hold rallies.  Trump's momentum is real.  Why they aren't demanding an end to the games is inexcusable.  

 

Most rigged election in human history

 

 

According to the RealClearPolitics poll of polls, the president’s overall job approval rating is now at a fairly healthy 45.1 percent, a four point jump in two months. His average disapproval rating is still too high at 53.4 percent, but is trending down.

 

In the average of the polls in a general election match-up, Biden still leads 49.2 to 43 percent against Trump, but that 6.2 point lead is down from a ten point deficit in late June.

[BillStime]

 

[plenzmd1]

1 hour ago, wAcKy ZeBrA said:

 

 

from Two months ago...you want to go old school, lets look at this guy

 

 

[WEATHER DOT COM]

The point is not close to everyone is wearing/wore masks.

[The Trump Virus]

26 minutes ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

This is worse then Obamagate.

 

1000x worse.  

Yet nowhere near on the scale of what the President did. Put them all in jail. 

Edited September 17, 2020 by The Trump Virus