Reality Check Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Deranged Rhino said: The trucker horns during this provide the perfect dystopian future soundtrack for these times. Reminds me of the movie Maximum Overdrive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 They don't want you safe, they want you AFRAID. Gotta be brave. Now more than ever. 6 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB3 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: They don't want you safe, they want you AFRAID. Gotta be brave. Now more than ever. Clay has been great on this (and most other things). 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 12 minutes ago, B-Man said: ONE OUT OF THIRTY-TWO: County supervisor says San Diego has only had 6 “pure, solely coronavirus deaths” out of 194 listed as such. What a mess. Hospitals have been incentivized to classify anything as Covid 19. Yet those very statistics are what Governors are using to keep people locked down and out of work. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nih-begins-clinical-trial-hydroxychloroquine-azithromycin-treat-covid-19 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Wait a minute! It appears that they're outdoors, Fauci & Birx have NEVER worn a mask before, yet NOW they're wearing them? (message sent) ? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Frenkle Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 hours ago, Reality Check said: If this is the depth of the conversation you want to have, you may want to reconsider staying home by yourself all day. I am saying this as a friend. There is no conversation. You win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedge Posted May 15, 2020 Author Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: (Not sure the topic) 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Do nursing homes in NY have enough PPE to protect residents ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azalin Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, ALF said: Do nursing homes in NY have enough PPE to protect residents ? I'm guessing no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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shoshin Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 21 minutes ago, Hedge said: That is a strange way to count. In PA, nursing home deaths account for 69% of all our deaths. 3% of all the people in nursing homes in PA died in the last 8 weeks. It’s staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 In 2017, 5.5 million children under five years old died (15,000 every day) compared to 12.6 million in 1990 (34,000 every day) Globally, under five mortality rate dropped to 39 deaths per 1,000 live births in 2017 from 93 in 1990 – a 58 per cent decline. interesting stats that nobody talks about. 15,000 is unreal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justice Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 hours ago, shoshin said: My neighbors recovered and during recovery, never drove their minivan. Unlike HCQ, no studies on avoiding minivan as treatment yet, though it’s working for most people. Most people get better with zero intervention. Trump requires everyone around him to wear masks and get tested every day. He’s in a few high risk categories (old and obese) and is exercising all the caution he can. So you’re saying that doctor is full of *****? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 5 minutes ago, mead107 said: In 2017, 5.5 million children under five years old died (15,000 every day) compared to 12.6 million in 1990 (34,000 every day) Globally, under five mortality rate dropped to 39 deaths per 1,000 live births in 2017 from 93 in 1990 – a 58 per cent decline. interesting stats that nobody talks about. 15,000 is unreal. That is the tragedy for poor countries Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoshin Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 3 minutes ago, Justice said: So you’re saying that doctor is full of *****? I’m saying that studies don’t back up her claim, probably because most Covid patients get better. With all the anecdotes and people who have gotten it and studies that have been done, the fact that all the studies show it’s not working is why we are hearing so much less about it. It would be awesome if it worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, B-Man said: "According to a CNN poll released this week, nearly three-quarters of Democrats said the worst of the crisis is still ahead of us..." "... while only about a quarter of Republicans said the same. This marked a 15 percentage-point drop among Democrats since CNN last asked the question in April, and a 44-point drop among Republicans. A YouGov/Economist poll also found a similar divide this week; 58 percent of Democrats said the pandemic is going to get worse compared with only 20 percent of Republicans...."FiveThirtyEight reports. Why should predictions about what a virus will do have so much to do with political orientation? I might be missing something, but I see 2 types of reasoning: 1. Optimism or pessimism is a psychological orientation that is more fundamental than political affiliation. It affects which party you feel drawn to and how you see the virus going in the future. Pessimists picture things going wrong, so they want more help from the government, and the Democrats are there to offer to help. Optimists think they can make good things happen and the Republicans offer to get government out of the way. 2. A Republican is in the White House, and Democrats don't trust him and assume he's screwing things up, so they're more likely to picture bad things happening in the future. There's also wishful thinking: They want him to fail, and more death and sickness is something that — in a perverse and unacknowledged way — they want. Republicans are the opposite. They're more able to trust Trump, and the ordinary wishful thinking that the virus will go away aligns nicely with the hope that Trump will triumph. I know Nate Silver didn't write that but he's an honest guy and he's all about the numbers. No doubt that he is a lefty but he's not a hack and he's been in his own way criticizing those in the media who are sensationalizing out-of-context top line numbers to depict things worse than they are. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 39 minutes ago, Hedge said: This makes me little angry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Magox said: I know Nate Silver didn't write that but he's an honest guy and he's all about the numbers. No doubt that he is a lefty but he's not a hack and he's been in his own way criticizing those in the media who are sensationalizing out-of-context top line numbers to depict things worse than they are. ...but isn't that the Dems' end game?......solely focus on deaths?......why are hospitals getting $39,000 for a death through Medicare Cares Act funding but only $13,000 for a non- Covid 19 death?.....so report the guy with a gunshot wound or the heart attack dude as Covid-19 and pick up an extra 52 grand?......so now add in that relic Pelosi's 3 TRILLION DOLLAR lunacy and there you have it.....Quid Pro Joe is the white knight candidate who would NEVER have these deaths on HIS watch or trillions of new debt on HIS watch....so once inaugurated and remanded to the West Wing Nursing Home, VP Kamala "The Thrillah" Harris fixes everything....uh oh..... 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 40 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: This makes me little angry It should. He begged for a hospital ship and hospitals -- then sent infected patients back to nursing homes rather than use them. (Because getting the country "better" isn't his primary goal) 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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meazza Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 7 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: NYC subway is still open because people still need to get around. As you may have noticed, very few people own cars in NYC. Nobody needs to go to the beach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deranged Rhino Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, meazza said: NYC subway is still open because people still need to get around. As you may have noticed, very few people own cars in NYC. Nobody needs to go to the beach. There's zero reason to keep the beaches closed at this point. (Other than to stoke fear) 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Just now, Deranged Rhino said: There's zero reason to keep the beaches closed at this point. (Other than to stoke fear) I agree that the beaches should be open but Ted Cruz's point is laughably stupid. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 34 minutes ago, Deranged Rhino said: It should. He begged for a hospital ship and hospitals -- then sent infected patients back to nursing homes rather than use them. (Because getting the country "better" isn't his primary goal) Right . That's super wrong putting infected people in nursing homes . He is on Nancy Pelosi level for me now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: You can ***** right off with this nonsense. We won't live in a bubble. Just ***** kill me now. Good lord. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Hedge said: Benito Cuomo. His days as governor are numbered. 1 hour ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...but isn't that the Dems' end game?......solely focus on deaths?......why are hospitals getting $39,000 for a death through Medicare Cares Act funding but only $13,000 for a non- Covid 19 death?.....so report the guy with a gunshot wound or the heart attack dude as Covid-19 and pick up an extra 52 grand?......so now add in that relic Pelosi's 3 TRILLION DOLLAR lunacy and there you have it.....Quid Pro Joe is the white knight candidate who would NEVER have these deaths on HIS watch or trillions of new debt on HIS watch....so once inaugurated and remanded to the West Wing Nursing Home, VP Kamala "The Thrillah" Harris fixes everything....uh oh..... Of course, we should never forget that on top of all that, some of those organs are still worth something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chef Jim Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, shoshin said: That is a strange way to count. In PA, nursing home deaths account for 69% of all our deaths. 3% of all the people in nursing homes in PA died in the last 8 weeks. It’s staggering. What percentage of people in nursing homes typically die? Otherwise your state is useless. Nursing homes are God's waiting room in the best of times. 3% sound low actually. Edited May 15, 2020 by Chef Jim 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 minutes ago, Reality Check said: Benito Cuomo. His days as governor are numbered. Nawww. The GOP will not run anyone electable. Kinda sucks. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reality Check Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Nawww. The GOP will not run anyone electable. Kinda sucks. Sad but true. It will likely be another Democrat to replace him. He is dangerous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 25 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Nawww. The GOP will not run anyone electable. Kinda sucks. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1261096369089101830 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 32 minutes ago, Foxx said: https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1261096369089101830 They would have a fit if this happened in NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 The data on all fronts continue to keep getting better week over week. Some data points slower than others. Deaths are stubbornly improving. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 Pandemic was caused by Dem-panic. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GG Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 2 hours ago, meazza said: I agree that the beaches should be open but Ted Cruz's point is laughably stupid. Actually his point is straight on. If the government is willing to accept the risk of transmission on public transit in a highly packed city, they should be willing to accept a much lower risk of transmission in a wide open space. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meazza Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 22 minutes ago, GG said: Actually his point is straight on. If the government is willing to accept the risk of transmission on public transit in a highly packed city, they should be willing to accept a much lower risk of transmission in a wide open space. In one case they don’t really have a choice. Even in the strictest lockdowns you need people to be able to get to work in essential services. Again, beaches and outdoor activities should be open but the comparison doesn’t work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snafu Posted May 15, 2020 Share Posted May 15, 2020 8 hours ago, ~Kostabi~ said: No *****. Thats why they want your phone with you at all times. 7 hours ago, Deranged Rhino said: You can ***** right off with this nonsense. We won't live in a bubble. If I see someone wearing that, I’m sticking my chewed gum to it. Right where the nose is. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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