Lurker Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 The Texans fans should start a collection to pay his fine... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 12 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Thank u, just wanted to make sure I was going to hurl for all the right reasons. The NFL is a ***** joke. See which way Allen is running. See the back of Ford’s jersey. It’s a penalty. Learn the god dam rules and stop complaining about the officiating 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 phew, he got off lucky. I was expecting a suspension and loss of draft picks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seasons1992 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Three things need to happen for the NFL to fundamentally change. 1. Jerruh and Kraft Singles need to go away. 2. Goodell needs to go away. 2. A competitor worthy of stealing some of the NFL's dollars must come along. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 18 minutes ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Thank u, just wanted to make sure I was going to hurl for all the right reasons. The NFL is a ***** joke. Clearly Jacob Martin (#54) has eyes in the back of his head, if that's supposed to be blocking his 'blind' side... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Hopefully he never has to pay this and NFL is just doubling down fur show. What a joke the NFL has become. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Anyone know the name of the ***** that came out with that ruling? Needs to be on the Wall of Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: See which way Allen is running. See the back of Ford’s jersey. It’s a penalty. Learn the god dam rules and stop complaining about the officiating What is the rule? What is the rule on kickoffs while you are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: See which way Allen is running. See the back of Ford’s jersey. It’s a penalty. Learn the god dam rules and stop complaining about the officiating Damn why such a jerk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 28K for this? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Scott7975 said: What is the rule? What is the rule on kickoffs while you are at it. From https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2019-rules-changes-and-points-of-emphasis/ BLINDSIDE BLOCK Owners voted to expand protection of defenseless players by eliminating the blindside block. It is now prohibited for a blocker to initiate forcible contact with his head, shoulder or forearm when his path is toward or parallel to his own end line. The penalty for an illegal blindside block is a loss of 15 yards and an automatic first down. So its actually debatable if Ford's play was a penalty or not. I don't think it was because it not was FORCIBLE contact. KICKOFF The ball is dead if it is not touched by the receiving team and touches the ground in the end zone (touchback). 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, billsfan1959 said: 28K for this? I think the proper thing for Ford to do there is to step out of the way and watch his QB get killed. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 “But Clowney” is trending on Twitter, in response to Ford’s fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: From https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/2019-rules-changes-and-points-of-emphasis/ BLINDSIDE BLOCK Owners voted to expand protection of defenseless players by eliminating the blindside block. It is now prohibited for a blocker to initiate forcible contact with his head, shoulder or forearm when his path is toward or parallel to his own end line. The penalty for an illegal blindside block is a loss of 15 yards and an automatic first down. So its actually debatable if Ford's play was a penalty or not. I don't think it was because it not was FORCIBLE contact. KICKOFF The ball is dead if it is not touched by the receiving team and touches the ground in the end zone (touchback). I know what the rules are lol. I was talking to angry guy. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 7 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: See which way Allen is running. See the back of Ford’s jersey. It’s a penalty. Learn the god dam rules and stop complaining about the officiating I've never understood a guy who opines on all sorts of football topics yet gets upset when someone else does the same. I understand that you believe the officiating is a quality product and that human error may/is part of it, but why the frustration with others who recognize that officiating is a huge part of the game. It's not like there is a consensus that the highly paid, supposedly highly trained, post-game graded apparenly-average aged 65 do an exceptional job. It's not even that they are widely viewed as consistent. NFL experts are weighing in all the time on the issue. Guys like Pat Kirwin acknowledge the officiating issues, albeit only when calls tilt games that matter at inopportune times. The NFL itself comes back with comments, but typically only after marquis games are impacted at inopportune times. The reality is its beyond the control of the fan, but officiating influences games and there is a stunning lack of consistency which seems at times to benefit some ar the expense of others. Why do you care if someone else cares? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: 28K for this? It was a penalty. But I agree a fine is unwarranted. We see a lot worse go unfined. NFL sending a message that the officials got the call correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister Defense Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Probably a response to the almost across the board criticism of that bad call, spite and to legitimize it. Ridiculous. But, another point of motivation for the Bills next year.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Is the Houston defender actually blind? Perhaps that’s the reason it was a blindside block and fine? This is unreal. The Bills will never win a playoff game. It’s obvious that the NFL hates Buffalo. I guess the Smoking Man on the X- Files was right and they must still be following his guidance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: It was a penalty. But I agree a fine is unwarranted. We see a lot worse go unfined. NFL sending a message that the officials got the call correct. By the rules it is. My issues are that (1) it is a penalty you would rarely see called in overtime of a playoff game (particularly when the defensive player initiated the contact as much as the offensive player) and (2) it is certainly not worthy of a fine. Edited January 11, 2020 by billsfan1959 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said: I've never understood a guy who opines on all sorts of football topics yet gets upset when someone else does the same. I understand that you believe the officiating is a quality product and that human error may/is part of it, but why the frustration with others who recognize that officiating is a huge part of the game. It's not like there is a consensus that the highly paid, supposedly highly trained, post-game graded apparenly-average aged 65 do an exceptional job. It's not even that they are widely viewed as consistent. NFL experts are weighing in all the time on the issue. Guys like Pat Kirwin acknowledge the officiating issues, albeit only when calls tilt games that matter at inopportune times. The NFL itself comes back with comments, but typically only after marquis games are impacted at inopportune times. The reality is its beyond the control of the fan, but officiating influences games and there is a stunning lack of consistency which seems at times to benefit some ar the expense of others. Why do you care if someone else cares? Because this board is filled with people posting that the NFL has chosen which teams are going to win. And that the refs are biased for one team over another. Refs make mistakes all the time and I call that out. Why not be objective and lay the blame where it should, on Ford? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRA3196 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Absurd. In addition to all the calls the league missed during the game, they have the audacity to investigate the Bills because they didn't have him on the injury report for his torn wrist ligaments. I love the Bills and I love the game of football, but this is just stupid. The league continues to do everything it can to ruin the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: It was a penalty. But I agree a fine is unwarranted. We see a lot worse go unfined. NFL sending a message that the officials got the call correct. No. It wasn’t. You’re one of, maybe, 1% of NFL fans arguing this. Even Texans fans disagree with you. “by the letter of the law though....” Ok, so everything is a penalty then. Edited January 11, 2020 by SCBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: It was a penalty. But I agree a fine is unwarranted. We see a lot worse go unfined. NFL sending a message that the officials got the call correct. Shouldn't have been a penalty or a fine. Look at the :12 second mark, the Houston defender is looking at Ford (he sees him) and is raising his arms in anticipation of contact with Ford. The refs, and the NFL, got it wrong; the league offices are not going to contradict the refs. It is only getting worse under Goodell, who never should have got his new contract two years ago. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, PIZ said: Is the Houston defender actually blind? Perhaps that’s the reason it was a blindside block and fine? This is unreal. The Bills will never win a playoff game. It’s obvious that the NFL hates Buffalo. I guess the Smoking Man on the X- Files was right and they must still be following his guidance. See here is an example. The rule has nothing to do with the defender seeing him. It about which direction the blocking player is facing. You can’t block towards your own endzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, SCBills said: Even Texans fans disagree with you. Even Mike Pereira disagrees... https://billswire.usatoday.com/2020/01/04/mike-pereira-questions-penalty-on-bills-cody-ford/ Edited January 11, 2020 by Lurker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, billsfan1959 said: By the rules it is. My issues are that (1) it is a penalty you would rarely see called in overtime of a playoff game and (2) it is certainly not worthy of a fine. Agree it is not worthy of a fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Shouldn't have been a penalty or a fine. Look at the :12 second mark, the Houston defender is looking at Ford (he sees him) and is raising his arms in anticipation of contact with Ford. The refs, and the NFL, got it wrong; the league offices are not going to contradict the refs. It is only getting worse under Goodell, who never should have got his new contract two years ago. 5 minutes ago, SCBills said: No. It wasn’t. You’re one of the 1% of NFL fans arguing this for some reason. Even Texans fans disagree with you. To the letter of the rule it actually it is debatable if it is a penalty or not. Debatable because he hit with his shoulder but I believe that he did not lead with his shoulder so that should mean something. It really doesn't have anything to do with whether the player see's him or not. I think people get that impression because of the name of the penalty which does not actually suggest what the description of the penalty is. However, it should not be a penalty IMO. That's a pretty safe and clean block. The rule is in place and was actually changed to prevent injury. A defenseless receiver type of injury. This is not that. Edited January 11, 2020 by Scott7975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: Shouldn't have been a penalty or a fine. Look at the :12 second mark, the Houston defender is looking at Ford (he sees him) and is raising his arms in anticipation of contact with Ford. The refs, and the NFL, got it wrong; the league offices are not going to contradict the refs. It is only getting worse under Goodell, who never should have got his new contract two years ago. What direction is Ford blocking in the video? Please find the part of the rule where it says it is ok to block toward your endzone if the guy sees it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 30 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: He got suspended for a game. Meaning he missed 1/16th of his salary. Jesus Christ this board kills me with how uninformed people are He should have been suspended for 8 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, SCBills said: Can the team pay the fine for him, and send the league that denomination in pennies? Seriously, **** the NFL Unrolled pennies. Delivered in a wheelbarrow just off a pig farm. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 minute ago, Ethan in Portland said: What direction is Ford blocking in the video? Please find the part of the rule where it says it is ok to block toward your endzone if the guy sees it? While you are correct... its still debatable. There is more to the rule than just parralel/toward own endzone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PIZ Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 6 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: See here is an example. The rule has nothing to do with the defender seeing him. It about which direction the blocking player is facing. You can’t block towards your own endzone. Don’t blocks facing your end zone happen all the time, but are never called? I’ve seen it on kickoffs all the time and never called. The Bills seem to get these weird calls called on them all the time. Would it happen to the Patriots. The NFL wanted Houston to win this game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just serves as another distraction from the points they frantically took off the board for the Bills on the 2nd half KO. So dumb. Viewing this alongside with the Clowney hit is mind boggling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: He should have been suspended for 8 games. Agree 1 game was a joke. 4 games at least. Vicious and dirty hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: Nice NFL. Any fine for the missed helmet to helmets on Allen? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Negan Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 What a joke, no surprise the NFL wanted the Mahomes vs Watson matchup and would do anything possible to make that happen... Which they carried out the league narrative flawlessly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 4 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: While you are correct... its still debatable. There is more to the rule than just parralel/toward own endzone. It’s debatable if it is forcible contact. 100% agree with you on that. Whether the player can see it has nothing to do with the call. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Just now, Ethan in Portland said: Because this board is filled with people posting that the NFL has chosen which teams are going to win. And that the refs are biased for one team over another. Refs make mistakes all the time and I call that out. Why not be objective and lay the blame where it should, on Ford? Because to single out Ford on a penalty that by the very nature is a judgment call penalty (define forcible contact v any contact), where the NFL is notoriously inconsistent as acknowledged by virtually every fan in America, at a critical point in the game, where officials generally do not throw flags, in an innocuous situation seems silly to me. Put another way, the call can be made, but it was joke that it was made. At the same time, the TD/no TD call is made correctly on the field, but "corrected" to account for the players feeling or intent at the moment. I cannot recall a time when the men in black rushed on to the field, and while I acknowledge they can, it's fair to question why they would. Finally, the head shot to JA no-call. Maybe they didn't see it, maybe the felt JA lead with his chin, maybe whatever. The bottom line for me is when human error is involved, it's rare to see questionable calls go against you multiple times. Finally, you mentioned that the NFL was sending a message that the call was correct. That seems to imply discretion again, and the reality is that the message had already been sent when the flag was thrown. The game is over, the fine totally unnecessary, yet they feel a need to send a message? The officiating is horrid, players and fans cannot change things one way or the other, but imo it's not a golden goose that cannot be discussed. I respect your right to disagree, but honestly, complaining about play selection or QB play falls into the same category. It accomplishes a absolutely nothing. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 What a clown league of officials and admins. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 Meanwhile refs get off with no punishment for contributing to our loss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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