YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) Edited January 8, 2020 by YoloinOhio 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 That's kind of an odd move if he was well thought-of at OBD. Also, he looks like a police sketch... 3 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Does he have ties to VA Tech... I’m assuming there is a pay raise associated with it because it was a lateral move... don’t know if a college job is better than a pro job at the same position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Leaving the NFL to get the same job at Va Tech (of all paces)?? Wow. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Wow....why would he go and do that???? I can see a college DC gig but same position? SMH 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Coach Tuesday said: That's kind of an odd move if he was well thought-of at OBD. Also, he looks like a police sketch... Is he a VA Tech guy? It seems we should be able to keep him if we really want him. I’m not sure I really get the full picture here...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, JGMcD2 said: Does he have ties to VA Tech... I’m assuming there is a pay raise associated with it because it was a lateral move... don’t know if a college job is better than a pro job at the same position. I can't see them outbidding an NFL team just to bag a DLine coach. Weird move til we get his reasoning. Then probably still a weird move. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: Going back to coach with a friend Fuente Just now, JGMcD2 said: Does he have ties to VA Tech... I’m assuming there is a pay raise associated with it because it was a lateral move... don’t know if a college job is better than a pro job at the same position. Friends with the HC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, Augie said: Is he a VA Tech guy? It seems we should be able to keep him if we really want him. I’m not sure I really get the full picture here...... No but Coached with Fuente previously https://buffalonews.com/2020/01/08/buffalo-bills-bill-teerlinck-sean-mcdermott-virginia-tech-nfl-football-news-2020/ Teerlinck informed Bills coach Sean McDermott of his intentions on Sunday, a day after Buffalo's wild-card playoff loss against the Houston Texans, according to NFL sources. McDermott didn't share the news during his season wrap-up news conference Tuesday, apparently to give Virginia Tech the chance to make the announcement Wednesday. There was no immediate word on the Bills' choice to replace Teerlinck, who played a key role in the development of rookie tackle Ed Oliver after the team made the former University of Houston standout the ninth overall pick of the draft. Teerlinck, who joined the Bills as an assistant defensive line coach soon after McDermott became their head coach in 2017, got his start in coaching working with Virginia Tech coach Justin Fuente when they were assistants at Illinois State. Teerlinck was Illinois State's defensive line coach and assisted with special teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Making room for new Bills DL coach Kyle Williams? 16 6 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Does he have ties to VA Tech... I’m assuming there is a pay raise associated with it because it was a lateral move... don’t know if a college job is better than a pro job at the same position. Not sure about pay - some programs pay assistants very well, some don’t. The biggest difference is recruiting. It’s non stop. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Special K said: Making room for new Bills DL coach Kyle Williams? My best guess would be Eric Washington former DC in Carolina. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGMcD2 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) We have an assistant defensive line coach, Aaron Whitecotton, on staff currently. After promoting Chad Hall from within last year to WR coach, I bet we do the same here. Edited January 8, 2020 by JGMcD2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Going back to coach with a friend Fuente. And likely wants out of the NFL Grind. Coaching College much easier Also likely saw no upward mobility in Buffalo with Fraiser and McD as DC Edited January 8, 2020 by MAJBobby 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 This sucks, I was just thinking whoever the Bills D-Line coach is did a great job. Is this a rare occurrence for a D-Line coach to go from the NFL to college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, MAJBobby said: Going back to coach with a friend Fuente. And likely wants out of the NFL Grind. Coaching College much easier I wouldn’t say easier. Maybe lower expectations. The time and travel is exponentially higher with the recruiting aspect. 1 minute ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: This sucks, I was just thinking whoever the Bills D-Line coach is did a great job. Is this a rare occurrence for a D-Line coach to go from the NFL to college? As a lateral move I would say it’s pretty rare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Special K said: Making room for new Bills DL coach Kyle Williams? I think he fits the player to coach build perfectly. I would love seeing Meatball on the sidelines and I think he would do a good job. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: Leaving the NFL to get the same job at Va Tech (of all paces)?? Wow. It's all Hokie's doing!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, YoloinOhio said: I wouldn’t say easier. Maybe lower expectations. The time and travel is exponentially higher with the recruiting aspect. As a lateral move I would say it’s pretty rare The other thing is there were is the upward mobility? He wont get a DC job in the NFL because everyone knows it is McD and Fraiser, and that also limits the internal DC move as well because Fraiser wont go anywhere. So likely lets get back with a Friend, recruit well (easier now with NFL Ties), and get the DC job in VT, probably the faster upward mobility for him going this route Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) My favorite Coach Teerlink moment... https://www.buffalobills.com/video/kid-convos-presented-by-orville-s-pancakes Edited January 8, 2020 by JoeF 2 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, JoeF said: My favorite Coach Teerlink moment... https://www.buffalobills.com/video/kid-convos-presented-by-orville-s-pancakes Harry is finally off the hook 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelly the Dog Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: The other thing is there were is the upward mobility? He wont get a DC job in the NFL because everyone knows it is McD and Fraiser, and that also limits the internal DC move as well because Fraiser wont go anywhere. So likely lets get back with a Friend, recruit well (easier now with NFL Ties), and get the DC job in VT, probably the faster upward mobility for him going this route Maybe. But if McD, Frazier, and Beane like him, he won't have trouble getting interviews and likely a job back in the NFL if he wants to later. McDermott and Frazier have a lot of respect around the league. Unless, of course, his lines and players in his college gig don't produce at all. He did well this year with the DL, it's inarguable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The other thing is there were is the upward mobility? He wont get a DC job in the NFL because everyone knows it is McD and Fraiser, and that also limits the internal DC move as well because Fraiser wont go anywhere. So likely lets get back with a Friend, recruit well (easier now with NFL Ties), and get the DC job in VT, probably the faster upward mobility for him going this route I don't really get this idea of no upward mobility angle I mean what the only way for teams to think you've got potential is for the guy above you to suck? You'd think good HC/DC would be expected to hire good position coaches who would then after doing their job at a high level be good candidates to get a shot at a coordinator positions. Edited January 8, 2020 by Warcodered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Harry is finally off the hook No more chocolate chip pancakes... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Warcodered said: I don't really get this idea of no upward mobility angle I mean what the only way for teams to think you've got potential is for the guy above you to suck? You'd think good HC/DC would be expected to hire good position coaches who would then after doing their job at a high level be good candidates to get a shot at a coordinator position. you think anyone in the NFL thinks McD and Fraizer don't have their hands ALL over this defense. and Coordinator it a lateral move in the NFL and could be blocked (not saying McD would do that BUT can occur). So he goes down coaches with his friend and wont have to worry about the McD and Fraizer questions if the DL down there excels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 8, 2020 Author Share Posted January 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kelly the Dog said: Maybe. But if McD, Frazier, and Beane like him, he won't have trouble getting interviews and likely a job back in the NFL if he wants to later. McDermott and Frazier have a lot of respect around the league. Unless, of course, his lines and players in his college gig don't produce at all. He did well this year with the DL, it's inarguable. It all depends on his career goals - he’s coached in both college and nfl so has experienced both. Does he want to ultimately be a HC and if so does he want to do that at the college or pro level? If it’s college that he wants, it’s a good move and he Apparently feels comfortable with Fuente at the helm as far as where that program is and his own trajectory. His dad coached DL forever in the nfl and I’m not sure if he ever moved up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: The other thing is there were is the upward mobility? He wont get a DC job in the NFL because everyone knows it is McD and Fraiser, and that also limits the internal DC move as well because Fraiser wont go anywhere. So likely lets get back with a Friend, recruit well (easier now with NFL Ties), and get the DC job in VT, probably the faster upward mobility for him going this route I don't think it will be easier for Va Tech to get better players to go to that school because a position coach just left the NFL. I bet every one of those kids would be asking "WTF??". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: I don't think it will be easier for Va Tech to get better players to go to that school because a position coach just left the NFL. I bet every one of those kids would be asking "WTF??". He walks into the Room and shows the growth of Shaq Lawson and Oliver. Next he shows McD and Fraizer in his contact list on the phone. Having NFL Experience and ties is HUGE for Recruiting 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: It all depends on his career goals - he’s coached in both college and nfl so has experienced both. Does he want to ultimately be a HC and if so does he want to do that at the college or pro level? If it’s college that he wants, it’s a good move and he Apparently feels comfortable with Fuente at the helm as far as where that program is and his own trajectory. His dad coached DL forever in the nfl and I’m not sure if he ever moved up. Nope Never did DL coach forever Cleveland Browns (1989–1990) Defensive line coach Los Angeles Rams (1991) Defensive line coach Minnesota Vikings (1992–1994) Defensive line coach Detroit Lions (1995–1996) Defensive line coach Denver Broncos (1997–2001) Defensive line coach Indianapolis Colts (2002–2012) Defensive line coach https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Teerlinck Edited January 8, 2020 by MAJBobby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 11 minutes ago, Warcodered said: I don't really get this idea of no upward mobility angle I mean what the only way for teams to think you've got potential is for the guy above you to suck? You'd think good HC/DC would be expected to hire good position coaches who would then after doing their job at a high level be good candidates to get a shot at a coordinator positions. It's more a matter of the guys above him not going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: I don't think it will be easier for Va Tech to get better players to go to that school because a position coach just left the NFL. I bet every one of those kids would be asking "WTF??". You're so bent on being a contrarian that you lose your mind sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, MAJBobby said: He walks into the Room and shows the growth of Shaq Lawson and Oliver. Next he shows McD and Fraizer in his contact list on the phone. Having NFL Experience and ties is HUGE for Recruiting Those were 2 1st round draft picks. The phone trick isn't going to steer many top players to that school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 27 minutes ago, Special K said: Making room for new Bills DL coach Kyle Williams? That was my immediate reaction. I don't know that Williams is inclined to move into coaching, but if he is, McDermott could make a worse choice. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: You're so bent on being a contrarian that you lose your mind sometimes. that's not true. 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 This move was a no brainer because of one thing - coeds. Bills have no cheerleaders. It will continue to cost us. 3 1 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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MAJBobby Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 Just now, Mr. WEO said: Those were 2 1st round draft picks. The phone trick isn't going to steer many top players to that school. it will with the lower star recruits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR8 Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 1 minute ago, eball said: It's more a matter of the guys above him not going anywhere. Odd are he hoped he'd get an offer to go to another NFL Team with the Coaching carousel running and didn't get any calls. Now he looks at the fact that he's buried on the "Depth Chart" sorta speak in Buffalo behind probably 4 or 5 assistant coaches who have been there longer. If he ever wants to move up he has 2 choices: 1) Stay in Buffalo for another year and be a part of a great Defense where the is plenty of Credit to go around but be just another guy on a great defensive staff 2) Strike out on his own from Buffalo and make his case elsewhere... be "The Guy" who turned it around at VT. It's a bet on himself thing, and while he probably could've gotten some DC job at a minor program in college, it's much harder to make your way there... So he took a lateral move to a "Meh" program but not garbage, with a guy he knows and trusts and now needs to work hard to prove he deserves more. If he can make something special out of VT's D-Line he will get a DC gig in college pretty quickly at a respectable program. From there he can decide if he wants to push to get back into the NFL or stay in the college ranks. Coaching football is a really hard thing to do, not just the work, but the politics and the nature of the job. You're ALWAYS moving around... If you're good you're in high demand and you get offers all over and need to decide which to take and which not, but they always mean moving. If you're bad you get fired and move down... IF you're just so-so, you can stick around in a place with a coach but inevitably he will be fired or move and you need to decide what you want to do. He has not roots in Buffalo, he has been here a few years and has learned things I'm sure, but he maxed out the upward mobility here. This is a strategic move for him... either he wants LESS Responsibility and scrutiny by going to college, or he wants MORE but knows he needs to move on and re-prove himself again to get that upward mobility chance. I think it's that he wants to move up and knows in Buffalo right now he just wont. Which is a REALLY good thing that we have so many good coaches that he's burried and there's nothing he can do abou tit. All that said this is a massive loss for the Bills. Shaq, H. Phillips, J. Phillips, Murphy all improved from 2018 to 2019, and Oliver showed fantastic progression. He was doing fantastic work here, and now we have big shoes to fill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 38 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Does he have ties to VA Tech... I’m assuming there is a pay raise associated with it because it was a lateral move... don’t know if a college job is better than a pro job at the same position. I wouldnt call the same position in college a lateral move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: it will with the lower star recruits Their sweet spot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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