PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, Simon said: That's not a prevent, that's lining your guys up at the sticks on 3rd/long which every team in the NFL has been doing for years. You start there at the snap so you can play the down moving forward, but a couple guys didn't execute; Edmunds was one of them. no one even met the guy until he was 1 yard away from first down lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? Why is Dimarco even on the field running a deep route? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, wppete said: Bad play calling, poor tackling and stupid penalties lost this game. Yep, and a few missed opportunities Brown not getting his feet in, duke twice not coming down with the ball, perfectly schemed QB bootleg, perfect blitz called and Milano- neal cant bring him down, third and long and the linebackers depth is too far and 3 OL miss the block Edited January 5, 2020 by Jerboski 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbRiddicksTDLeap Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, Mshaw said: that was embarrassing from the coaching staff. literally playing not to lose, it was disgusting to watch. this is the worst Bills loss since I've been a fan. Then you are a lucky fan. There have been WAY worse losses than this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Part of me is convinced the OL let 41 light up Josh on the sweep because he had his head up his ass for the last 10 minutes. Such a lame take; like yourself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? hero ball and horrable situational awareness. tackling was a issue as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Blocking? How about some quarterbacking!? Josh gave us his usual performance today. Some good, some great, some FREAKING HORRIBLE... And in the end it's just not enough to win. Need more points. 16 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? To me the game was lost on having a 16-0 lead with about 20 minutes left and allowing Houston the cross the goal line 4 times. Regardless of what the closk showked, giving up 18 yards on a 3rd and 18 is also what lost the game. Considering the overall limited talent on offense , not blaming them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I wish coaches didnt take away Allens scramble... I mean Watson was hailed for his constant and immediate scrambles for 5-7 yards and yes they were effective. Yet when Allen was doing them last year it was "gotta stop that and throw from pocket" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Troll Toll Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: To me the game was lost on having a 16-0 lead with about 20 minutes left and allowing Houston the cross the goal line 4 times. Regardless of what the closk showked, giving up 18 yards on a 3rd and 18 is also what lost the game. Considering the overall limited talent on offense , not blaming them. They should have been able to tee off on Watson in the 2nd half. McDermott was infamous for this in Carolina as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 10 minutes ago, Troll Toll said: They should have been able to tee off on Watson in the 2nd half. McDermott was infamous for this in Carolina as well. That was the other thing was it six sacks, but maybe one in the last 20 minutes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 31 minutes ago, Simon said: You're absolutely right Rubes. And that wasn't the first time Daboll did that with DiMarco today Can’t understand the logic of spreading Dimarco wide? All year never saw it work for,anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 29 minutes ago, Rubes said: The problem as I see it is that Daboll relies too much on pass plays (like this one) that takes too long to develop. You can do that when you have a strong offensive line that can give their QB the time for that to develop. It should have been clear to him in the second half that the line was seriously struggling to block anyone, and not to rely on slow developing plays. I hope Cleveland solves that problem for us... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsMafia13 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, PolishPrince said: I wish coaches didnt take away Allens scramble... I mean Watson was hailed for his constant and immediate scrambles for 5-7 yards and yes they were effective. Yet when Allen was doing them last year it was "gotta stop that and throw from pocket" I mean you see how much he fumbles right? At least the picks are down. Tough to put it on one dude but i remember back to back plays they rushed 3 and 4 and blew the doors off us. I was flabbergasted Edited January 5, 2020 by BillsMafia13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 6 minutes ago, BillsMafia13 said: I mean you see how much he fumbles right? At least the picks are down. Tough to put it on one dude but i remember back to back plays they rushed 3 and 4 and blew the doors off us. I was flabbergasted The fumbling thing has been a concern this year... I remember him running much more often last year and not fumbling 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Juice_32 said: 3 guys whiffed on 41 on the QB power in OT. If one of them blocks him, we’re on the 30. True. I was so surprised he made the tackle, I saw 41 clearly, but also saw Morse and others, I was sure it would be a HUGE run. But on replay, you see it's just one of those freak things, when 3 people assume the other guy is doing it. Sucks but it happens, especially like that in the open. But it's NOT acceptable when Watt just goes untouched to begin a play! WTH. Makes zero sense. Edited January 5, 2020 by Jerome007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, Billznut said: The offensive line definitely could be upgraded, but seeing that they just did that last off season I expect them to focus in other areas and all these OL will be back again. Hopefully they will be better next year. ALL facets of the offense need to improve. QB, OL, WR, TE I don’t know if he’ll make a difference, but we do have tackle LaAdrian Waddle on IR. 2 hours ago, Xwnyer said: Can’t understand the logic of spreading Dimarco wide? All year never saw it work for,anything I think DiMarco made a couple of nice catches. But I don’t understand it at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) Disagree with the OP. The biggest reason this season,along with this game, was lost, was coaching Edited January 5, 2020 by CodeMonkey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? DiMarco shouldn't have even been on the field in the first place. Josh wasn't good but other than Singletary and Josh himself there is a lack of play makers on this team. Brown and Beasley are nice complimentary pieces. Fix the RT position and get a true #1 WR will only serve to aide in his development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 39 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: Disagree with the OP. The biggest reason this season,along with this game, was lost, was coaching Coaching of the blockers? Sure, I can go with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Rubes said: Coaching of the blockers? Sure, I can go with that. Do you really think the coaching staff, particularly the head coach, had a good in-game season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? How did the lateral lose the game? It stopped the clock because it prevented him from being tackled in bounds with no time outs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 hours ago, Billznut said: The offensive line definitely could be upgraded, but seeing that they just did that last off season I expect them to focus in other areas and all these OL will be back again. Hopefully they will be better next year. ALL facets of the offense need to improve. QB, OL, WR, TE A positive is that the OL is solid. Not great, not bad... pretty good. That being said, continuity on the OL can be just as important as a talent upgrade. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubes Posted January 5, 2020 Author Share Posted January 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, CodeMonkey said: Do you really think the coaching staff, particularly the head coach, had a good in-game season? Not particularly, but I’m not talking about the season. Just this game. Like I said, the game was lost many ways, coaching being one. I think the coaching in the second half was poor. I just think it was the poor blocking, play after play, that really derailed this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Just now, Rubes said: Not particularly, but I’m not talking about the season. Just this game. Like I said, the game was lost many ways, coaching being one. I think the coaching in the second half was poor. I just think it was the poor blocking, play after play, that really derailed this one. Houston had free rushers coming off 4 men as we went 5 wide in that 4th. No idea what was happening there. The intentional grounding play was a 3 man rush, where 2 came free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 28 minutes ago, Motorin' said: How did the lateral lose the game? It stopped the clock because it prevented him from being tackled in bounds with no time outs. Just an example of out of control Josh, but you are right, it didnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Juice_32 said: 3 guys whiffed on 41 on the QB power in OT. If one of them blocks him, we’re on the 30. Morse completely blocked no one. That play should've produced 8-10 yards if the Te or Morse do their job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Nextmanup said: Blocking? How about some quarterbacking!? Josh gave us his usual performance today. Some good, some great, some FREAKING HORRIBLE... And in the end it's just not enough to win. Need more points. Good blocks lead to points. You don’t want a new QB, you want a magician ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 21 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Just an example of out of control Josh, but you are right, it didnt An in control player could use that play in in last few seconds of a game. Kind of like the QB throwing it in the dirt. As long as there's a guy "in there area" of the lateral, you could just Chuck the ball out of bounce. Not that I think Josh was thinking that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ticketssince61 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 4 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: Nope. It was lost by an out of control Allen in the second half, turning into hero ball, idiot decision maker Allen. WTF was that lateral? Bombs to Demarco? Are you kidding me? Bigger question is why was DeMarco even downfield? 4 hours ago, oldmanfan said: DiMarco had inside position and if he timed his jump better it’s completed. Yes, but that is why he is fullback and not a wide receiver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodeMonkey Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 11 hours ago, Rubes said: Not particularly, but I’m not talking about the season. Just this game. Like I said, the game was lost many ways, coaching being one. I think the coaching in the second half was poor. I just think it was the poor blocking, play after play, that really derailed this one. That certainly contributed. But Watson was under constant pressure all game and got sacked 7 times I believe. Blocking issues would seem to be a wash in that game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Singletary also had a big wwhhhhiiffff in pass protection. I can't remember the exact outcome, but I think it was a big sack at a bad time. Not to poop on his otherwise great game, but if you're keeping score at home... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan714 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It was a total team loss. As for the OL I saw plenty of plays in the second half where Josh had all day and couldnt make plays with that time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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