wppete Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Greed, its a horrible thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 6 minutes ago, wppete said: Greed, its a horrible thing. which side is being greedy here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, aristocrat said: yea who owns the video at this point? the tv station 25 years later? the bills might have bought it. guy is trying to sell shirts and stuff but might have overthought his actual demand. Zero demand in this house. I liked it better when I thought he was dead. Paraphrasing @DC Tom, he was an idiot then and he’s an idiot now. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Motorin' said: He's totally right. You can't use someone's voice and image in advertising without licensing those rights. He's going to get paid, and he should. That's how the world works. http://www.dmlp.org/legal-guide/using-name-or-likeness-another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, badassgixxer05 said: Resurgence said on their twitter that they reached out to him. Not sure what the outcome was. From his comments I'm guessing they reached out and he said well what are you doing for me $$$? They said, well your likeness is public, were not paying you anything we just want you to be apart of this great beer. Kinda disappointed as I was pumped for this release but they were out of stock already when i tried to get some. Kinda glad i didn't now... I believe that Resurgence had brewed and distributed another batch of the "Dallas Is Going Down, Gary" beer a week or two ago, following Miller's objection to Resurgence's use of his likeness, so whatever differences they had seemed to have been put aside - at least for now. Edited December 27, 2019 by Bermuda Triangle clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, Bermuda Triangle said: I believe that Resurgence had brewed and distributed the "Dallas Is Going Down, Gary" beer a week or two ago, following Miller's objection to Resurgence's use of his likeness, so whatever differences they had seemed to have been put aside - at least for now. he's now doing promotions for them so they have come to an agreement it seems 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, End The Drought said: For anyone who is not aware, this is the “Dallas is going down Gary” fellow. Get a load of this guy!! He didn't film it so i dont think he has the rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
End The Drought Posted December 27, 2019 Author Share Posted December 27, 2019 Here’s the tweets since he deleted them 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Motorin' said: The video itself does, but unless he signed his rights away, he still owns the rights to his likeness and voice. I also don't get the animosity here. The Bills are a billion dollar company and used the guy in a commercial to sell a couple million dollars worth of tickets. He should have went about it n a professional manor and not act like a dick on Twitter, thats the problem here. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, Gugny said: It appears that he complained about this a month ago. Not only the Bills, but a beer company who sold beer with his face on the cans. My guess is that he turned to Twitter when the Bills didn't "pay him" enough. https://wben.radio.com/articles/dallas-is-going-down-gary-fan-reflects-on-fame-and-bills From 11/28: “They decided, without my permission, to put a likeness of me on that can of beer,” Miller said. “I was told they sold out of the beer and everything the day they did their introduction of that type of beer. I thought it was very distasteful. Number one, I don’t drink. Not that I’m against alcohol, it’s just never been in my life.” He said he was told by that company they didn’t need to have his permission to use his likeness. “Well I think you’re gonna have a problem with that one legally,” he said. “It’s just not cool to do that in my opinion. I would never take advantage of a client or person for monetary gain. I just wouldn’t do it. To me, it’s just a shame on you for doing that.” He also was caught off guard when the Buffalo Bills used his likeness to promote ticket sales in a commercial. “They should call me and give me a suite or something,” Miller quipped. “You can’t just take a likeness of someone and use it for promotional gain. Unless you’re gonna let me use Josh Allen on my website to promote my company.” I'm pretty sure, "It's not cool," is not the legal standard here..... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbb Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, wagon127 said: In his interview with WBEN last month, he admitted this. A little kid, who was too shy to speak on camera, was being interviewed by ch 2. Marc Miller pushed the kid out of the way, to show the kid how to talk about the bills on TV. I hope the kid was named Gary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffalOhio Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Here's what I think of Marc Miller ... Watch the Bills Fan pointing and read his lips. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 10 minutes ago, BuffalOhio said: Here's what I think of Marc Miller ... Watch the Bills Fan pointing and read his lips. First and ten??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Did he hire AB’s publicist? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Marc Miller is going down!!!!! Just like the Cowboys 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 55 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: He should have went about it n a professional manor and not act like a dick on Twitter, thats the problem here. Exactly and I agree with @Gugny the Bill didn't sell millions of dollars of tickets because of a screaming moron in a ad Edited December 27, 2019 by Mike in Horseheads 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Exactly and I agree with @Gugny the Bill didn't sell millions of dollars of tickets because of a screaming moron in a ad Reason to use one of my favorite Animal House clips 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 minute ago, JoeF said: Reason to use one of my favorite Animal House clips lmao... didn't Belushi give the famous "germans attacked Pearl Harbor" speech after that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: He should have went about it n a professional manor and not act like a dick on Twitter, thats the problem here. People apparently love excuses to act like *****. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: lmao... didn't Belushi give the famous "germans attacked Pearl Harbor" speech after that? That was the intro....yes... ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Exactly and I agree with @Gugny the Bill didn't sell millions of dollars of tickets because of a screaming moron in a ad The Bills have streamed that video millions of times this year. His clip certainly had value, or why else would they have chosen to use it in the 30 secs they dedicated to advertising? I'm really interested in finding out how they aquired it, and if Mark had signed his rights away. If he did, he has no ground to stand on. But if he didn't sign his rights away to the original news broadcast, then he's entitled to a usage fee. And believe me, the fee is always way higher after it's been viewed by a mass market. Edited December 27, 2019 by Motorin' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) I’m thinking of Tony Soprano, sitting at a sidewalk table in front of Satriale’s Pork Store with Paulie Walnuts and Ralph. I see agita and bile, rising inside him. “You’re gonna let ‘em use your face and you’re gonna give him two sideline tickets”. Edited December 28, 2019 by Neo 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bbb said: I hope the kid was named Gary Actually, it was little Chad Kelly. * * * And now............you know the REST of the story. ? Edited December 27, 2019 by Ridgewaycynic2013 Look out Snopes, here’s a new one... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I mean, this guy said some words that one time. Who ***** cares. Dude sucks. 3 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Motorin' said: The Bills have streamed that video millions of times this year. His clip certainly had value, or why else would they have chosen to use it in the 30 secs they dedicated to advertising? I'm really interested in finding out how they aquired it, and if Mark had signed his rights away. If he did, he has no ground to stand on. But if he didn't sign his rights away to the original news broadcast, then he's entitled to a usage fee. And believe me, the fee is always way higher after it's been viewed by a mass market. Why are so you interested how they acquired it? And its Marc not Mark Edited December 27, 2019 by Mike in Horseheads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, bbb said: I hope the kid was named Gary Wheres Garys rights in this? Did Marc get a release from him? If I'm Gary I'm going on twitter to say how disappointing it is and want a cut from Marc's shirts Edited December 27, 2019 by Mike in Horseheads 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 I'm surprised the Bills used the clip. I don't think the guy has any legal or financial standing here, but I thought the Bills were heading in a classier direction, trying to reign in the table smashing and other foolish, drunken tailgating behavior. To use that clip as a ticket-sales promo is saying, "We approve of and condone some drunken turd-head getting all turd-faced and acting like a complete idiot." JMHO . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike in Horseheads Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 #Garyhasrightstoo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDTT Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 24 minutes ago, Mike in Horseheads said: Why are so you interested how they acquired it? And its Marc not Mark You know what's funny, the name of the show Marc was featured on was called "George Michael's Sports Machine." I think Marc misspoke and called him Gary instead of George. And I'm personally interested in it because i work in advertising / video production. I see what people get paid to appear in ads, and I license video clips all the time... How much do you think the Bills paid their ad firm to produce that commercial? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Motorin' said: You know what's funny, the name of the show Marc was featured on was called "George Michael's Sports Machine." I think Marc misspoke and called him Gary instead of George. And I'm personally interested in it because i work in advertising / video production. I see what people get paid to appear in ads, and I license video clips all the time... How much do you think the Bills paid their ad firm to produce that commercial? I know this is a little off topic, but I have to ask ... What's your price for flight? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motorin' Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gugny said: I know this is a little off topic, but I have to ask ... What's your price for flight? Looks like it took a solid 3rd round pick. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 3 hours ago, wppete said: Greed, its a horrible thing. That's not what I heard from Gordon Gekko in "Wall Street!" LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 It's weird to me that people are against this. Companies are using his likeness to promote their brand, without his permission. It's an open and shut case IMO. They're using him for their personal gain. There's nothing wrong in wanting to be properly compensated. Is there a tint of jealousy here somewhere? Is it because he's a working/middle class guy like most people here, trying to make some money? He already gave so much in that interview, and has brought so much joy to anybody watching it. What does it say about the city of good neighbors when they want to take, but don't want to see something given back? Are you afraid he's going to make more money than you? Weird, weird, weird. 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timekills17 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I know this is a little off topic, but I have to ask ... What's your price for flight? Finding Mr. Right? Motoring! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Gugny said: I know this is a little off topic, but I have to ask ... What's your price for flight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 1 hour ago, The Senator said: I'm surprised the Bills used the clip. I don't think the guy has any legal or financial standing here, but I thought the Bills were heading in a classier direction, trying to reign in the table smashing and other foolish, drunken tailgating behavior. To use that clip as a ticket-sales promo is saying, "We approve of and condone some drunken turd-head getting all turd-faced and acting like a complete idiot." JMHO . Supposedly the guy does not drink, and was not drunk at the time. And I can buy that. Millions of sports fans don't need alcohol or drugs to act like this guy did. Also, you insulting him really doesn't say a lot for YOU. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 Marc just lost me? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 41 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: It's weird to me that people are against this. Companies are using his likeness to promote their brand, without his permission. It's an open and shut case IMO. They're using him for their personal gain. There's nothing wrong in wanting to be properly compensated. Is there a tint of jealousy here somewhere? Is it because he's a working/middle class guy like most people here, trying to make some money? He already gave so much in that interview, and has brought so much joy to anybody watching it. What does it say about the city of good neighbors when they want to take, but don't want to see something given back? Are you afraid he's going to make more money than you? Weird, weird, weird. Possible answer: Most Bills' fans are dumb, just like most Bills' players are dumb? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted December 27, 2019 Share Posted December 27, 2019 6 hours ago, aristocrat said: clearly you've never seen a fucillo commercial and that guy seems to be killing it Down in Florida he does. Stopped running ads up here - dealerships are barely scraping by in WNY On 12/22/2019 at 6:03 PM, Shaw66 said: I agree with this completely. And McBeane are not about bright, shiny objects. They a process and they'll stick to it. They've been patient so far, and they can see that what they're doing is workng. The talent they have today will improve. The talent they draft and sign in free agency will increase the competition and improve the team more. Allen will have learned more about playing big games - Pittsburgh wasn't too big for him, but Baltimore and New England were. Step by step. And that's not to say that they're done for this season. They're already good enough that, although it's unlikely, multiple playoff wins this season are possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts