Big Turk Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 27 minutes ago, BillsShredder83 said: Mcvay is a coach not a GM Pretty sure he is calling most of the shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Mark Vader said: What is hilarious to me is how so many people on this board are wishing that we could have Robert Woods back on the team. There sure weren't that many people singing his praises when he was playing for us before. I loved Woods and didn't want him to leave, and now he's put up back to back 1,000 yard seasons so has legitimately become a better WR. This seems to be the common opinion. I don't really understand this post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Nelius said: I loved Woods and didn't want him to leave, and now he's put up back to back 1,000 yard seasons so has legitimately become a better WR. This seems to be the common opinion. I don't really understand this post. The point is that there were a fair amount of people on this board that were indifferent about Woods when he was a Bill. There weren't that many people crying over his departure to the Rams. Now everyone wants him back in Buffalo, as if they never wanted him to leave in the first place. The amount of hypocrisy on this board is staggering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: The point is that there were a fair amount of people on this board that were indifferent about Woods when he was a Bill. There weren't that many people crying over his departure to the Rams. Now everyone wants him back in Buffalo, as if they never wanted him to leave in the first place. The amount of hypocrisy on this board is staggering. Hmm ok, I guess I just disagree. I remember a lot of people being upset about him leaving. Bob Woods was a fan favorite, in my opinion. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Nelius said: Hmm ok, I guess I just disagree. I remember a lot of people being upset about him leaving. Bob Woods was a fan favorite, in my opinion. Well they sure were very quiet about it on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildBills Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The safety screwed up big time. He was way out of position so, yes Ramsey got burned but the safety messed up way worse imo. The announcers were making fun of him saying he was a rookie and that he made a big mistake covering grass on the sideline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 minutes ago, Nelius said: Hmm ok, I guess I just disagree. I remember a lot of people being upset about him leaving. Bob Woods was a fan favorite, in my opinion. Around here most liked him but thought he was going to be overpaid and better to let someone else do it. Goodwin was the one fans were pushing out the door...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Goat Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Ramsey, Odell, and Edelman are the worst. Valid. Jarvis Landry's #4. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Mouthy unpopular veteran ripping on rookie teammate on an under achieving team. That's a locker room that will have problems who traded/overpaid for such a player. Their new stadium will be empty real quick. L.A. fans hold off on seasons next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 11 hours ago, Estro said: Ramsey, like Odell Beckham and Leveon Bell goes about his career as if he's an independent contractor rather than part of a team. Some teams seem more tolerant in dealing with these type of players because their talent is obvious. If I were running a team, I'd want no part of players with these type of attitudes regardless of their talent. When it's always about you & you're always creating noise it's like poison in the locker room. And right on cue....today, Odell is throwing his helmet and having a visibly frustrated shouting match with his coach on the sidelines. Then after the game he's giving the same dumb excuses to reporters, "I got a flag for a celebration I've done all year.....wahhhh, wahhhh, wahhh". Dude no you cost your team 15 yards by being an arrogant self absorbed diva who puts himself before team every single chance you get. I can't stand even listening to him anymore, it's embarrassing. And to give credit where credits due.....it's nice to have a team that doesn't have these poisonous attitudes in the locker room. Job well done by Beane and McDermott in shipping out the malcontents. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 He is who we thought he was. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Mark Vader said: The point is that there were a fair amount of people on this board that were indifferent about Woods when he was a Bill. There weren't that many people crying over his departure to the Rams. Now everyone wants him back in Buffalo, as if they never wanted him to leave in the first place. The amount of hypocrisy on this board is staggering. I think he set the narrative for his departure. He complained a lot during his time here and raved with excitement about returning home to LA. He’s a very good WR, but if he hated it here before, there’s no reason to think that would change if he returned via FA. jmo. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Mark Vader said: What is hilarious to me is how so many people on this board are wishing that we could have Robert Woods back on the team. There sure weren't that many people singing his praises when he was playing for us before. Well I, for one, sang his praises. Really miss Bob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, Mark Vader said: What is hilarious to me is how so many people on this board are wishing that we could have Robert Woods back on the team. There sure weren't that many people singing his praises when he was playing for us before. I don’t recall that. I know there was the whole bob woods is effing crazy schtick- but I remember him as Generally respected and liked. Maybe there was one one or two times he was visibly frustrated while Ej was stinking it up? i didn’t blame anyone who wanted out of the last few regimes, hell as fans we all did. fwiw, imo his precision intermediate routes and great hands would pair well with josh Edited December 23, 2019 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I don’t recall that. I know there was the whole bob woods is effing crazy schtick- but I remember him as Generally respected and liked. Maybe there was one one or two times he was visibly frustrated while Ej was stinking it up? i didn’t blame anyone who wanted out of the last few regimes, hell as fans we all did. fwiw, imo his precision intermediate routes and great hands would pair well with josh Is his contact up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Joe in Winslow said: Is his contact up? 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: 2022 Then why is this a conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 2 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: Then why is this a conversation? Technically because I made a statement of opinion, you asked a question and then I answered it. I think that qualifies, but I’m no expert on these fancy conversation rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 32 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: Technically because I made a statement of opinion, you asked a question and then I answered it. I think that qualifies, but I’m no expert on these fancy conversation rules. No offense meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellcamino Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 1 hour ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I don’t recall that. I know there was the whole bob woods is effing crazy schtick- but I remember him as Generally respected and liked. Maybe there was one one or two times he was visibly frustrated while Ej was stinking it up? i didn’t blame anyone who wanted out of the last few regimes, hell as fans we all did. fwiw, imo his precision intermediate routes and great hands would pair well with josh Thats pretty accurate in my opinion. The only real complaint that I recall around here was how he seemed incapable of catching a pass without going to the ground, even if he was wide open and it was a good throw. Missed out on a lot of YAC. He seemed to get over that with the Rams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billybob71 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Jalen Ramsey = 25 going on 12. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badassgixxer05 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Not a process guy... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, zonabb said: I root for the Bills and against garbage pplayers, teams, and greedy owners. So I am currently celebrating: 1. Ramsey's exit from the playoffs after he acted like a complete ahole intentionally to get traded. Can't win with me guys. 5. Watching Le'Veon Bell take a monster step backwards after greedily sitting out a season to come back and sign a deal with the Jets, the freaking Jets. Can't win with greedy guys who sign contracts they refuse to honor. Enjoy the millions and the end of your chance at a Hall of Fame career. 1) what was your reaction and thoughts on the Jacksonville/ NFLPA stuff and Coughlin getting fired? He was treated like a piece of property by Couglin, Couglin was fired as a result of his behavior. Hate on Ramsey for plenty of things, refusing to play for that neandrathal is not one of them. 2) why is Bell greedy and the owners not? Never understood this line of reasoning. Don’t suppose you give your employer 50% of your salary back to redistribute to the other employees, or even better just keep it to make sure the bottom line looks better. You can argue all day long that no running back should be paid like that( which I agree with), but that’s a different argument. Edited December 23, 2019 by plenzmd1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 3 hours ago, plenzmd1 said: 1) what was your reaction and thoughts on the Jacksonville/ NFLPA stuff and Coughlin getting fired? He was treated like a piece of property by Couglin, Couglin was fired as a result of his behavior. Hate on Ramsey for plenty of things, refusing to play for that neandrathal is not one of them. 2) why is Bell greedy and the owners not? Never understood this line of reasoning. Don’t suppose you give your employer 50% of your salary back to redistribute to the other employees, or even better just keep it to make sure the bottom line looks better. You can argue all day long that no running back should be paid like that( which I agree with), but that’s a different argument. Bell was an idiot because he was offered an amazing deal by the team that helped him get those numbers. I’ll never understand these selfish dummies who think they can be on any team and they will magically put up the same stats. If bell had been with the bengals the past couple of years he wouldn’t have done ***** and hence wouldn’t have gotten a good contract. I’ll never understand splitting hairs with the contract stuff just to say you are technically getting more and go to a team that will make you irrelevant. Whats his next contract going to look like? And he missed a year and still didn’t get the numbers he was originally looking for. Straight up stupid if you ask me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plenzmd1 Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 Just now, Rocbillsfan1 said: Bell was an idiot because he was offered an amazing deal by the team that helped him get those numbers. I’ll never understand these selfish dummies who think they can be on any team and they will magically put up the same stats. If bell had been with the bengals the past couple of years he wouldn’t have done ***** and hence wouldn’t have gotten a good contract. I’ll never understand splitting hairs with the contract stuff just to say you are technically getting more and go to a team that will make you irrelevant. Whats his next contract going to look like? And he missed a year and still didn’t get the numbers he was originally looking for. Straight up stupid if you ask me. Stupid is one thing ( which i do not agree Bell was stupid), greedy it is not. Just for the record, the Steelers offer was higher per year, but only $10M guaranteed. $32M guaranteed on his Jet contract. Smart any way you look at it. And forget his next contract, he can rush for 2000 yds two years in a row, he is not getting much of anything as a 31 year old RB in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said: I think he set the narrative for his departure. He complained a lot during his time here and raved with excitement about returning home to LA. He’s a very good WR, but if he hated it here before, there’s no reason to think that would change if he returned via FA. jmo. I believe that to be true, with regards to Los Angeles. I think he only would have stayed if the Bills gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. 7 hours ago, NickelCity said: Well I, for one, sang his praises. Really miss Bob. As did I. Like I posted earlier, Woods was one of my wishes for that year's draft. 6 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: I don’t recall that. I know there was the whole bob woods is effing crazy schtick- but I remember him as Generally respected and liked. Maybe there was one one or two times he was visibly frustrated while Ej was stinking it up? i didn’t blame anyone who wanted out of the last few regimes, hell as fans we all did. fwiw, imo his precision intermediate routes and great hands would pair well with josh Believe me, I wish we still had him too. He was with the Bills during a very rough time. His last season with us was the first year of Tyrod Taylor at QB, when things got a bit more exciting on offense. So I'm not surprised that he left. I don't know what the Bills cap situation at the time was, so maybe bringing him back was just impossible for the Bills. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 The next time someone mocks the Bills for 'the process' and 'culture,' remind them of these moments. The Rams are the perfect example of how to not manage a team for the long game. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted December 23, 2019 Share Posted December 23, 2019 6 hours ago, Mark Vader said: I believe that to be true, with regards to Los Angeles. I think he only would have stayed if the Bills gave him an offer he couldn't refuse. As did I. Like I posted earlier, Woods was one of my wishes for that year's draft. Believe me, I wish we still had him too. He was with the Bills during a very rough time. His last season with us was the first year of Tyrod Taylor at QB, when things got a bit more exciting on offense. So I'm not surprised that he left. I don't know what the Bills cap situation at the time was, so maybe bringing him back was just impossible for the Bills. I think Whaley’s thought process was can’t afford to pay him and Sammy coming soon. Best laid plans of men and mice. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 This is the guy who turned up to training camp in an armoured truck. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 16 hours ago, NickelCity said: Well I, for one, sang his praises. Really miss Bob. Second that. He was the one I wanted to keep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 I guess i get that he is a competitor but he looked confused about how to answer and decided on a terrible one. Seems kinda dull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 1:40 PM, /dev/null said: And he's about as articulate as Leodis McKelvin Don't be knocking My Man Boomhauer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 2:23 PM, Buddo said: I always wanted to keep Woods. Played, hurt, played hard, and even after just a few years in the NFL, was a good receiver. I'd love to have him back in a heartbeat. It wasn't even as though he got big money when he moved, but iirc, we were somewhat cash strapped early on in FA that year. I think he got about $7 million a year, which is very good value. Like a poster said above, Woods wanted to go back to the West Coast, IMO I don’t think we could have resigned Woods for any amount. I also think the Bills had too much uncertainty at the time (aka. Dumpster Fire) when he didn’t resigned. Even if the Bills wanted to resign Woods that offseason, it was an offseason, where the WR average annual price in WRs jumped quite a bit. I think that offseason #2 and #3 WR money almost doubled. In closing, it was bad timing with our rebuild, inflation in the NFL with the cap and Woods didn’t want to be here. I wish Woods well, I think he is a great professional and balanced WR and Bob Woods is F’ing crazy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/23/2019 at 5:52 AM, Hellcamino said: Thats pretty accurate in my opinion. The only real complaint that I recall around here was how he seemed incapable of catching a pass without going to the ground, even if he was wide open and it was a good throw. Missed out on a lot of YAC. He seemed to get over that with the Rams. He hardly had lots of balls to catch with yac. He was usually diving or going low because he had too When he caught a ball with a chance to run he usually took full advantage and broke tackles. He was great after the catch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 11:56 PM, Golden Goat said: Valid. Jarvis Landry's #4. Not sure on Edelman. But, 2 of the 4 are with the Browns with expensive contracts at the same position. Haha, go Browns?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 24, 2019 Share Posted December 24, 2019 On 12/22/2019 at 1:36 PM, JoeF said: Me too...asking Santa now. Cooper Kupp please Santa...I'll sit on your lap as long as you want Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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