Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 8 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: * Flea flicker * WR option * Nick Foles special to Josh Allen * Fake punt * Fake FG * Fake Spike Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. I doubt it. IF they're saving something, I'd expect to see it in the playoffs. This is a team we should line up and beat. We shouldn't need trick plays. New England might need them though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 On offense and defense alone, We are probably better then the patriots right now straight up. We don’t need trick plays. What we need is to stop losing these games to New England because of Special teams, penalties and turn overs. Stop losing battle of the overlooked extra little things. The patriots have zero explosiveness or down field ability. They are the team that needs to try silly gimmicks to make big plays. We are the better team. Just don’t give them the game on turnovers and special teams mistakes and we are going to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I see the next two games as like a playoff pre-season. We definitely need to play-to-win since the Division is still in play (barely) and to get the New England monkey off our back. That doesn't mean trick plays to me, but I'd work on formations and tendency breakers that target NE weakness against stopping the run. Throw in some heavy packages, unusual formations (Gore and Singletary on the field at same time) different RPOs etc. Heavy play action to work on Joshs deep shots too. Our bread and butter seems to be 11 personnel with Josh running the no huddle. If it's close in the 4th, break that out and win the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 9 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: * Flea flicker * WR option * Nick Foles special to Josh Allen * Fake punt * Fake FG * Fake Spike Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. You know what would work? An end around to Vapor (Foster) where he ends up throwing deep to Smoke (Brown) would work to perfection. NE knows that McDermott kept Foster on ice last week specifically for NE, but, they aren't expecting the ol' okey doke. They are expecting end arounds and they'll absolutely sell out to stop him. I guarantee you that Brown will be wide open. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeastMaster Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 This team should be loose and looking to have some fun and win. I have no issue if they wanna get a bit more risky in this game. Beating the Pats in Foxborough may require something like that in order to pull it off. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) I don't think Cueboll is good enough to "save" any gadget plays and he better start being consistent to "save" his job. Play calling in the red zone against Pittsburgh, the time we lost yardage on 3 consecutive plays, shows the level of his brilliance. Edited December 21, 2019 by Azucho98 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 I'm pretty sure one of the times Frank Gore was tackled last Sunday at Pittsburgh was supposed to be a running back pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 9 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: * Flea flicker * WR option * Nick Foles special to Josh Allen * Fake punt * Fake FG * Fake Spike Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. Pitch to singletary in a fake sneak. It’s coming. and I agree we will see the kitchen sink today on offense / special teams. Literally nothing to lose and everything to gain by stealing this game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 27 minutes ago, Azucho98 said: I don't think Cueboll is good enough to "save" any gadget plays and he better start being consistent to "save" his job. Play calling in the red zone against Pittsburgh, the time we lost yardage on 3 consecutive plays, shows the level of his brilliance. Daboll isn't going anywhere unless he gets a head coaching position. I'm not thrilled with him either but in no way is he on the hot seat with the way Josh has progressed. There is zero chance McBean brings in another coordinator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillsGospel said: I've yet to be impressed with any of the game calling by Daboll, very unimaginative, heck we don't even see many bubble screens or screens in general. I'm not sure if Daboll knows what that is. He does but it’s hard to block screens when your guards are buoy like ours and they have an aptitude for stupid holding penalites (at least in Spain’s case). 9 minutes ago, TigerJ said: I'm pretty sure one of the times Frank Gore was tackled last Sunday at Pittsburgh was supposed to be a running back pass. It was. Watch how Spain blocked for it. Daboll confirmed as much. First play was the setup for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 35 minutes ago, BeastMaster said: This team should be loose and looking to have some fun and win. I have no issue if they wanna get a bit more risky in this game. Beating the Pats in Foxborough may require something like that in order to pull it off. Exactly. We have nothing to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123719bwiqrb Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 9 hours ago, BuffaloMatt said: Gore's halfback option was a colossal fail. I I'd be happy with less razzle dazzle and more execution. First downs = touch downs. No way. Colossal fail would be the Travis Henry halfback pass in Miami. That was just a 4 yard loss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring it Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 10 hours ago, GG said: They already know it. Belichick has it on video!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Nick Foles special please... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said: Stop showing them the game plan!! they already have it. It's the Pats**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ogham26 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 if they've got something they love save it for the playoffs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 ...in honor of "Ground Chuck"....run-run-pass-punt....stay tuned........... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweats Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 We don't need no tricks.........just come out and kick them in the teeth and when you think they couldn't possibly beat their ass anymore, beat them again for good measure. THAT is how you win games........old school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: * Flea flicker * WR option * Nick Foles special to Josh Allen * Fake punt * Fake FG * Fake Spike Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. Not sure this is the defense you want to try these types of plays against. Most trick plays are based off running plays, we need to establish a very strong running game in order to increase the odds of trick plays working. 24 minutes ago, OldTimeAFLGuy said: ...in honor of "Ground Chuck"....run-run-pass-punt....stay tuned........... Ground Chuck won a lot more games than he lost. 2 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Exactly. We have nothing to lose. How do we have nothing to lose? I don't understand that. If we lose : no chance of division title, can't beat a less than great Pats team, losing is never a positive thing, we might not be as good as we think we are if we can't win today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffarukus Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 hours ago, Binghamton Beast said: The Patriots are going down, Gary! 911? yes i need a medic. i dont know he was screaming about beating the patriots on a message board then clutched his chest. please hurry. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 The only thing our special teams have been saving is "playing well"..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronxbomber21 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 13 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: * Flea flicker * WR option * Nick Foles special to Josh Allen * Fake punt * Fake FG * Fake Spike Whatever it is, we’ll see it tomorrow. I would save it for the Playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 In their 2 other nationally televised games, they've run trick plays. I would expect one today. 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Exactly. We have nothing to lose. Yoke is easy; burden is light Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Actually I think we simply go back to our jet sweep package that we haven’t used in 3 weeks !!! Although I think the wrinkle is we throw out of it. 25 minutes ago, Sweats said: We don't need no tricks.........just come out and kick them in the teeth and when you think they couldn't possibly beat their ass anymore, beat them again for good measure. THAT is how you win games........old school. Actually old school isn’t exactly right although we need to run it. The Boston channel said teams running the ball on the Pats do it best with 3 WR on the field. Not with smash mouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 3 hours ago, BringBackFergy said: Exactly. We have nothing to lose. Actually they do. Win and we go into the playoffs with our tails high. Lose and we will still be associated with " ya, but....." Keep it simple and do what has worked well so far. Just don't lose cos we got too cute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 12 minutes ago, Locomark said: The Boston channel said teams running the ball on the Pats do it best with 3 WR on the field. Not with smash mouth. You don't think Belichick planted that in the news to mess with McD? 8D chess, y'all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: You don't think Belichick planted that in the news to mess with McD? 8D chess, y'all No it’s based on statIstics by formation !!!!! For instance they are best against I form and next best against 2 WR plus 1 TE split wide. Edited December 21, 2019 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Just now, Locomark said: No it’s based on statIstics by formation !!!!! SMH. That's just what they think you think they think you think they want you to think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 21, 2019 Author Share Posted December 21, 2019 11 minutes ago, Fan in Chicago said: Actually they do. Win and we go into the playoffs with our tails high. Lose and we will still be associated with " ya, but....." Keep it simple and do what has worked well so far. Just don't lose cos we got too cute I think we played our best football when McD told the team to play fearless. They have clinched a playoff berth. Playing fearless means play loose, have fun and throw everything at them. If we lose, we’re still going to playoffs. If we win, Pats need to LOSE to Dolphins. Have fun with this game and give BB a taste of his own medicine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: SMH. That's just what they think you think they think you think they want you to think. Half of their strategery is getting people to think they have some Jedi mind tricks. They don’t. It still about blocking and tackling. Line up, play better football and don’t give up the big or dumb play (like a blocked punt) and you will beat them. Edited December 21, 2019 by Locomark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 2 minutes ago, Locomark said: Half of their strategery is getting people to think they have some Jedi mind tricks. They don’t. It still about blocking and tackling. Line up, play better football and don’t give up the big or dumb play (like a blocked punt) and you will beat them. I know, that was my point... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 30 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: You don't think Belichick planted that in the news to mess with McD? 8D chess, y'all I'm gonna guess McDermott didn't read the news and will base his game plan on actual film and strategy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenhigh Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 20 minutes ago, klos63 said: I'm gonna guess McDermott didn't read the news and will base his game plan on actual film and strategy. Yes, I was mocking the folks that overcredit BB's genius. Apparently too well, based on the responses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 29 minutes ago, Tenhigh said: Yes, I was mocking the folks that overcredit BB's genius. Apparently too well, based on the responses. You outdid yourself. That's giving 110% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 14 hours ago, SWATeam said: I hate this line of thinking. Teams outsmart themselves when playing the Pats*, trying to be cute, Just play your game and beat them. Don't build them up to be something special where you need to pull out all the stops to win. It would be practice for when when we are dominating the playoffs. Never show them the whole thing, just enough to keep them on their toes. and there is a fine line to outsmart yourselves. 1 hour ago, Tenhigh said: SMH. That's just what they think you think they think you think they want you to think. just awesome because its kinda nearly absolutely true ! 1 hour ago, Locomark said: Half of their strategery is getting people to think they have some Jedi mind tricks. They don’t. It still about blocking and tackling. Line up, play better football and don’t give up the big or dumb play (like a blocked punt) and you will beat them. GET OUT OF MY HEAD BILL lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted December 21, 2019 Share Posted December 21, 2019 Dawkins trick play TD. I will say that makes this thread a winner. Case Closed. Nice call, and I was the first that agreed with you hehe 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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