LSHMEAB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Not nearly as much as we need flash players. When Isiah McKenzie is the most "electric" offensive weapon, you've got some problems. Singletary has been decent, but I'm really not overly impressed. Nice player, but he lacks a certain POP. There just isn't anybody on the roster capable of taking a screen/bubble screen and turning it into something big. You see that all over the league. Some guy who can highpoint a low percentage throw once or twice a game is not the answer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 20 minutes ago, mattynh said: Tall guys won’t catch the fast balls either Duke Williams catches everything thrown his direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 The Duke has been inactive while they activate both Foster and McKittrick. While I love me some McKittrick, if you're not going to run the jet sweep, activate The Duke and sit McKittrick down. If you're gonna run the jet sweep, then sit Foster. SmokeY has plenty of speed, you need a go to guy like The Duke, because all of a sudden, Knox can't catch a cold, except when he can, but it's a coin flip. I've also heard The Duke leads the league in saves, strikeouts per inning, and hit batsmen. This guy threw at his own kid in a father-son game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: He might because they are tall and can catch the ball. Are there 20ft tall receivers in this draft that I’m unaware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, Happy Gilmore said: A big WR is needed, though far from the biggest need. Where has Duke Williams been? Inactive? If so, why? Too slow, zero separation, Daboll likes his Smurf McKenzie who’s just about useless... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I think this is noted by the coaches, we will get the guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Virgil said: Are there 20ft tall receivers in this draft that I’m unaware of? Damn, you are being overdramatic today. You need to chill before you post your weekly post-game diatribe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 31 minutes ago, Mango said: It’s Allen’s biggest fault, lack of control with his arm. He throws too hard and too fast all the time. Take a look at Mahomes, he has the ability to throw with nearly identical velocity, but he uses that ability pretty sparingly. The deep ball accuracy is not the disease, it’s the symptom. Fouts mentioned it multiple times today, with a bunch of other criticisms of Allen’s play today that I was fair. No, he has actually found touch on a lot of his passes, obviously you really haven’t been paying attention lately. Did you see the wind today? A strong arm was needed... 1 minute ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Damn, you are being overdramatic today. You need to chill before you post your weekly post-game diatribe. Yes easy decision to block that hot mess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: Too slow, zero separation, Daboll likes his Smurf McKenzie who’s just about useless... You could be right about Duke. The best thing McKenzie does is the jet sweep. Other than that, he's nothing special. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Rocky Landing said: Duke Williams catches everything thrown his direction. He has 6 career catches in the nfl. Beasley catches everything too.....not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? Well, less margin for error at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Whatever happened to Dez. Just dropped outta the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Meatloaf63 said: No, he has actually found touch on a lot of his passes, obviously you really haven’t been paying attention lately. Did you see the wind today? A strong arm was needed... Yes easy decision to block that hot mess... I agree, he has been better the 2-3 weeks before today. I have posted it here multiple times. Today was terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 19 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Not nearly as much as we need flash players. When Isiah McKenzie is the most "electric" offensive weapon, you've got some problems. Singletary has been decent, but I'm really not overly impressed. Nice player, but he lacks a certain POP. There just isn't anybody on the roster capable of taking a screen/bubble screen and turning it into something big. You see that all over the league. Some guy who can highpoint a low percentage throw once or twice a game is not the answer. I don't think we could properly execute this, such as what N.E. does with four guys in front blocking. I wouldn't be surprised if it is absent from Daboll's play book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan_34 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, bills6969 said: Holy *****...We must have the weakest group of WRs in the league. Beasley is good, but only in the slot. We have no deep threat that can go up and snag the ball. Luckily, this year's draft is DEEP with WR talent. No excuse not grab a big body WR talent in the 1st or 2nd round. McKenzie cant break a tackle to save his life Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: I don't think we could properly execute this, such as what N.E. does with four guys in front blocking. I wouldn't be surprised if it is absent from Daboll's play book. You may be right. I'm not a fan of Daboll's offense. He goes from "HC candidate" to "FIRED" on a weekly basis, but his overall body of work is sub par. Nevertheless, the offense doesn't have "springers" for lack of a better word. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 23 minutes ago, LSHMEAB said: Not nearly as much as we need flash players. When Isiah McKenzie is the most "electric" offensive weapon, you've got some problems. Singletary has been decent, but I'm really not overly impressed. Nice player, but he lacks a certain POP. There just isn't anybody on the roster capable of taking a screen/bubble screen and turning it into something big. You see that all over the league. Some guy who can highpoint a low percentage throw once or twice a game is not the answer. You know I agree on Singletary. It isn't a popular opinion but I agree. He is good. He has played well. But I don't see a game changer. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meatloaf63 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mango said: I agree, he has been better the 2-3 weeks before today. I have posted it here multiple times. Today was terrible. I think is was the wind and tight coverage. But I watched it on tv so I can’t truly say what the field conditions were like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, GunnerBill said: You know I agree on Singletary. It isn't a popular opinion but I agree. He is good. He has played well. But I don't see a game changer. Never really been too concerned with holding a popular opinion. He's a nice player. He's got a place in this league. But game changer? My eyes tell me otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: Damn, you are being overdramatic today. You need to chill before you post your weekly post-game diatribe. Look at how far off he missed his deep throws on the first three drives. It was by more than 5 yards on two of them. Having a big bodied receiver wouldn't have changed what happened for those plays nor would the drops by Singletary, Knox, or Beasley. This thread was made in regards to the Ravens game. Size was not the issue for our passing game 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, LSHMEAB said: Never really been too concerned with holding a popular opinion. No me neither. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing Bong Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We need better route running. John Brown beating his man in man coverage should be able to complete on a crossing route 9/10. Opposing CBs are killing our guys on this should-be-easy read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Virgil said: Look at how far off he missed his deep throws on the first three drives. It was by more than 5 yards on two of them. He didn't miss the deep pass to Brown. They were not on the same page. Looked to me like Allen thought he would run straight up the seam but Brown ran a little outside. If you're going to blame Allen for anything today it's that he didn't make quick decisions with the ball and couldnt beat the blitz. As usual I have trouble judging those plays in real time, I'll have to see what the all-22 shows. One play in particular I remember seeing Singletary open in the flat but Allen didn't look his way and ended up getting sacked. Other than that, in real time I didn't see anything open that he was missing. Edited December 8, 2019 by HappyDays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: He didn't miss the deep pass to Brown. They were not on the same page. Looked to me like Allen thought he would run straight up the seam but Brown ran a little inside. If you're going to blame Allen for anything today it's that he didn't make quick decisions with the ball and couldnt beat the blitz. As usual I have trouble judging those plays in real time, I'll have to see what the all-22 shows. One play in particular I remember seeing Singletary open in the flat but Allen didn't look his way and ended up getting sacked. Other than that, in real time I didn't see anything open that he was missing. The pass to Foster, Foster wasn't evening running full speed until he saw the ball coming his way. He turned on the jets to late. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: The pass to Foster, Foster wasn't evening running full speed until he saw the ball coming his way. He turned on the jets to late. Could be, it's so hard to tell watching it live. The miss to Foster I can live with, that was a very difficult throw regardless. He hit the same tight throw to Beasley later on but Beasley dropped it. The miss to Knox was very bad, no excuse for that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I wonder what the coaching staff is seeing, or not seeing, in practice to keep Duke inactive. Does anybody here have any suspicions about what it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, ToGoGo said: I wonder what the coaching staff is seeing, or not seeing, in practice to keep Duke inactive. Does anybody here have any suspicions about what it is? He is very slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Agent 91 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Virgil said: Is Allen going to magically be more accurate to them? He definitely has some consistency issues... some amazing passes but some that just were out of the zip code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, mattynh said: He has 6 career catches in the nfl. Beasley catches everything too.....not There's plenty of tape on Duke Williams to know his strengths, and weaknesses. Reliable hands are surely one of his strengths. But, it's pretty weird to say that he won't be able to catch a fast ball because he is tall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, ToGoGo said: I wonder what the coaching staff is seeing, or not seeing, in practice to keep Duke inactive. Does anybody here have any suspicions about what it is? being stubborn He's worth a look Foster isnt doing anything and mcKenzie is useless other than running bubble screens and the jet sweep we seem to have abandoned Nothing else he would be effective in the red zone and on quick tosses inside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Rocky Landing said: There's plenty of tape on Duke Williams to know his strengths, and weaknesses. Reliable hands are surely one of his strengths. But, it's pretty weird to say that he won't be able to catch a fast ball because he is tall. Reliable hands is what the tape on Beasley said also. It’s not him it’s the fast balls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teddy KGB Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Nextmanup said: He missed a couple easy TDs today by YARDS. Please! You missed posting after the cowboys games by YARDS ! He threw a dime to Beasley that was cool ? PLease ! Edited December 8, 2019 by Teddy KGB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 We need a playmaker at the WR position, but people also underestimate how difficult it can be to find one. WR’s are notorious for being slow to adjust to the pro game, and many “sure things” never make it. The Ravens passing game is mostly dependent on TE’s, and they have no receivers who strike fear into anyone. I’m all in favor of trying to improve our receiver corps, but I’d also invest in improving this disaster of an oline. These guys get pushed around on a weekly basis, and we’ll never be able to assess Allen or the running game until that is remedied . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, mattynh said: Reliable hands is what the tape on Beasley said also. It’s not him it’s the fast balls Beasley also couldn't get separation today-- something he is also good at. Neither could Smoke, or Motor, or McK. The Ravens played tight, tight coverage today. That's why I kept thinking of Duke-- big, strong, and an ability to fight in tight coverage and come down with the ball. That is his wheelhouse. Ya hear me @GunnerBill! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Got one he was & has been on the inactive list for the past 4 weeks ...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, The Jokeman said: Duke might be hurt for all we know. Were that the case, I assume he would be on the injury report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: A big WR is needed, though far from the biggest need. Where has Duke Williams been? Inactive? If so, why? It is,puzzling that Dimarco plays yes he is good,on ST but I see nothing of him as a lead blocker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Xwnyer said: It is,puzzling that Dimarco plays yes he is good,on ST but I see nothing of him as a lead blocker I think DiMarco is on the team for SpT, specifically. He certainly doesn't bring much to the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 hours ago, buffalo2218 said: Give Knox's spot to Williams, at least he has much better hands and can block too You'd rather scratch Knox and keep Kroft on roster?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, the skycap said: You'd rather scratch Knox and keep Kroft on roster?? Has Kroft down anything but Knox needs to learn to make the catch than look for the goal line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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