Franco_92 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I'm honestly not remotely discouraged by this game. The Bills hung in there with the best team in the NFL, which has blown out more than one great team. Allen struggles with the blitz when those teams are ferocious and also capable of covering while doing it. Luckily, that's pretty much only NE and BAL. He was really good against the blitz in the 3 games before this one. Need to get better with screens and slants and whatnot to discourage teams from doing that so often. This team, if it makes the playoffs, will be a miserable opponent for any possible first round team, and has a good chance at beating any of them. They likely aren't ready to beat NE or BAL on the road in the playoffs. I think they will be this time next year. Our defense, man. So fun to watch. Bizarre breakdown on the long TD pass, but they made me not remotely scared of Jackson otherwise. The OLs were bad but the Ravens sent 6 or 7 so many times it seemed like. The WRs and TEs did not make plays. They caught too low of a percentage of passes they should catch, and caught no passes that you wouldn't expect them to. They not only didn't help our team, they hurt our team. Nice to see Hauschka doing well. Bojorquez probably had his worst game of the season. This sucks, but as long as we get to 10 wins somehow, it's going to be a blessing in disguise that we face the defenses of BAL, PIT, NE, and NYJ to end the season. It's going to grow this offense and they'll be ready for wild card weekend. Need that big WR weapon this offseason. It's time. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said: They knew that Allen can’t complete the long ball so the just kept blitzing. The receivers are open but he has not been able to hit them all year. They should be concerned at OBD Assuming you've got the arm strength, and JA does, the long ball is a touch pass. Touch (or the lack thereof) has been Josh's kryptonite as a passer. The encouraging thing is that he has improved his touch throws in the short passing game Eg to backs in the flats. Hope it's just a question of time. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I'm not calling us a championship team but for pete's sake hasn't anyone ever heard the saying "that's why you play the game"? We were playing what is the favorite team to win it all and if Allen hits Foster early or Singletary late or stops taking sacks inside the 30 yard line it's entirely possible we score enough to win that game. No we are not the favorites but we are going to be there with a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, 12+83=6 said: Hey Joe, if the goal of folks like you is to just counter every negative comment, then I feel sorry for ya. I feel sorry for me having to Wade through dreck like you're posting. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, HappyDays said: Bigger problem was the Ravens had constant pressure and I think Allen got rattled. He took some bad sacks but it's always hard to tell in real time if there was anywhere to go with the ball. Yep. Completely opposite from the Dallas game. Josh reminds me of the Mayhem "puppy" in those Tina Fey insurance commercials. He's just a baby and has so much to learn about playing QB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I thought he badly missed 2 deep throws to Foster and Foster. The opening drive miss to Brown was not a bad throw at all. Brown was looking the wrong way for the ball, there was some kind of miscommunication on that route. He also threw a dime on a deep ball to Knox in tight coverage and missed Singletary by a fingertip on a deep wheel route. Deep accuracy was really not the problem in this game. Bigger problem was the Ravens had constant pressure and I think Allen got rattled. He took some bad sacks but it's always hard to tell in real time if there was anywhere to go with the ball. And I almost forgot the dime he threw to Beasley on the run, that Beasley just flat out dropped. Too many plays left on the field across the board and Daboll called an awful game IMO. I couldnt tell you what the game plan was today and we had no answer for the constant blitzes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 29 minutes ago, Reader said: This is an excellent point Baltimore has a great defense and they made our o-line, wr's, qb, etc.... look adequate at best. If Daboll, Allen and the rest can clean this up then they should be set to take anyone on. This was more about discipline and timely execution by the Ravens. They are obviously well coached, athletic and talented. The Bills proved that they are not far behind. Remember, this Bills team is still evolving. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Punter sucked 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2018: Ravens 47, Bills 3 2019: Ravens 24, Bills 17 2020: ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stryker5673 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Need more offense. We have tons of picks and cap space. We're in good shape. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12+83=6 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: I get that some folks cant handle their feelings and it makes them feel better to moan and complain and play the blame game. Here's the thing - the 2019 version of the Buffalo Bills is not a championship team. I get people wanna win and win now, and maybe thats why they are ready to jump off a building - but it just was never going to be this year. Now, that said the 2019 Buffalo Bills are a building block and hopfully the beginning of a stack of good seasons. Its apparent the D has arrived before the O, BUT this team did what SSOO many other teams couldnt handle this year and thats stick with the Ravens. Good teams are good teams because they win. They score points and shut people down. Thats how the Ravens have gotten where they are. They are an excellent team that the Bills fought hard and hung with. Play calling was a bit suspect again this week, and I dont care who your QB is - with Oline play like that, you're going to have a tough day. And maybe the line doesnt suck, they just played a GOOD team and weren't as good. I doubt Brady in his hayday would have had an answer for dudes in his face in less than 2 seconds. Hopefully a piece of a #1 WR who will make a play for his qb is added next year. The catch from Knox is the 1st catch all year I remember going out and legit making a play for his qb. We have wwaaayyy more drops than wr stealing one for his qb. So I implore you, before you run down your list of how the QB isnt the guy, how bad the Oline is and how so and so sucks - remember this was the cream of the crop and they stuck with them. Get the hurt out and then realize that there is positive here and shows growth. Its a team thats coming into their own and finding their ways FOURTH loss ALL YEAR!! Take a deep breath and realize good things are ahead and this was a good measuring stick rather than the end of the world. After all, we didnt loose 42-3 and were a hard out at that. The defense has never been the question. It's the offense and QB play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 32 minutes ago, Buffalo_Gal said: Excellent start. Just a poor offensive showing. Darn it. Very true, but did we not expect days like this to the best teams in the league? With 9 new starters and a young QB a stinker like this against the hottest team in the league is disappointing but not surprising. The did it to the Pats and the 49ers. I still love our direction (as I know most do). First quarter Josh and fourth quarter Josh were not the same guy. It was a big stage against a great team for a young QB. Same with the early Pats* game. Atrocious, then he settled down. Next time won’t be the first time. START like 4th quarter Josh. Go Bills! Get the next one for 10 (TEN) wins! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 37 minutes ago, wvbillsfan said: We need that big wr so bad. Also please stop throwing to John Brown with the game on the line. It hasn’t worked since week 1 If it’s man to man throw to Cole Beasley. Open on that last play easy first down. You are dillusional Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, 12+83=6 said: The defense has never been the question. It's the offense and QB play. Uhhh... thats seriously your take away?! Yikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Right all day wondering was the slants, crossing routes or screens today... This... we had 10 days to prepare a gameplan. Ravens #1 blitzing team, and their weakness has been over 5 yards per carry on runs to the outside. So what is Dabolls script? 5 step drop backs, and slow hand off on almost like a delay. Maybe its just me but a lot of our handoffs looked very slow developing. We only had a couple runs to the outside.... 1 of which Singletary busted for 30-40 yards. Hey how about we have the ball on the half yard line to goal... so we do a DEEP hand off to Gore? to try to run outside? this is so wrong on so many levels.... If its to singletary, I can understand a bit... or if its a quick hitter off center with Gore I am fine with it.... but also maybe just sneak? 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: And I almost forgot the dime he threw to Beasley on the run, that Beasley just flat out dropped. Too many plays left on the field across the board and Daboll called an awful game IMO. I couldnt tell you what the game plan was today and we had no answer for the constant blitzes. I mean people keep running at Daboll with the pitchforks but here we are talking about missed TD's on deep passes and drops on short passes. 2 plays before the fouth down we had a screen that picked up something like 17 yards called back for a penalty. I'm not sure Daboll is the one shooting the offense in the foot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Bigantall said: You are dillusional How so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOF4LOU Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 There were several situations where it was 4 down territory but we passed on each one of them on 3rd down. Should have run on 3rd to make it 4th and short. No design runs today for josh or McKenzie. He didnt have time to pass so they should have used his legs more esp on those 3rd down plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDH Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, HappyDays said: And I almost forgot the dime he threw to Beasley on the run, that Beasley just flat out dropped. Too many plays left on the field across the board and Daboll called an awful game IMO. I couldnt tell you what the game plan was today and we had no answer for the constant blitzes. Yeah, that was huge. As was the Knox drop on 3rd and 10’when they were driving. The drops dove me crazy today, though to be fair, so did Allen’s misfires. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heitz Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, arcane said: I'm honestly not remotely discouraged by this game. The Bills hung in there with the best team in the NFL, which has blown out more than one great team. Anyone remember when some folks biggest concern was the disturbing number of blowout losses we had? Still sucks to lose, but we had a shot today... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Just now, Bigantall said: You are dillusional Ironically he has a huge point. That last 4th down play to Brown is what Duke scored on in Tennessee. You dont think Duke can box out Peters there? How about how Duke has shown he has strong hands? its not a knock on Brown, I love Brown 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12+83=6 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I thought he badly missed 2 deep throws to Foster and Foster. The opening drive miss to Brown was not a bad throw at all. Brown was looking the wrong way for the ball, there was some kind of miscommunication on that route. He also threw a dime on a deep ball to Knox in tight coverage and missed Singletary by a fingertip on a deep wheel route. Deep accuracy was really not the problem in this game. Bigger problem was the Ravens had constant pressure and I think Allen got rattled. He took some bad sacks but it's always hard to tell in real time if there was anywhere to go with the ball. I don't think you were watching the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigantall Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, wvbillsfan said: How so Read your post and you'll figure it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: And I almost forgot the dime he threw to Beasley on the run, that Beasley just flat out dropped. Too many plays left on the field across the board and Daboll called an awful game IMO. I couldnt tell you what the game plan was today and we had no answer for the constant blitzes. Some key execution drops hurt bad. O-line pass pro execution hurt bad. Some of Daboll's play calling hurt bad. Allen showed some moxy once again in the 4th QTR when down 15 and had us to the wire of a OT game. There is a lot to be encouraged with going forward. We should be proud of our Bills. People try to pop blame on Allen honestly don't understand the game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bills Fan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Yeldon and Duke would of help at lease little bit today........... 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12+83=6 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, gobills1212 said: Uhhh... thats seriously your take away?! Yikes And you making excuses for bad QB play? Yikes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OZBILLS Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Quite simple this one. Played *****, could have won it on the last play if WR catches it. We're on the right track, but the offense and Allen is a tad worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TakeYouToTasker Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Obviously you want to win the game, but the Bills demonstrated today that they belong in the title conversation, taking what for my money is the best team in the league all the way down to the wire. The fact that this game feels like a letdown is evidence of this. At no time in the last 20+ years would there have been any hope, much less an expectation, that today’s game was winnable. The Bills are no longer the weak sister. Get used to double digit win seasons, playoff appearances, and challenging for the division and first round byes every season for the next decade. 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 I have an honest ? After the super bowl against the Giants they established a new rule about a player getting hurt player can't come back in and or stalling a play player also needs to exit for 1 play so the def can get a rest 3x players from the Ravens did just that looked injured than came pack the next play to give the ref rest Why did not the safety have to leave after the penalty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, 12+83=6 said: I don't think you were watching the game. Well I was at the stadium. Good try though. Another formerly banned poster I am sure. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: This is a lose-lose situation in regards to fan 20/20 hindsight. If he throws short of the sticks and Beasley doesn't make it, fans will freak out that he didn't throw to the sticks. If he misses the throw to the sticks, fans will freak out that he missed the underneath guy. The real criticism here is that Brown's route should've been squared off at the sticks to create separation and get the 1st down, not the touchdown. I don’t disagree. There was enough time on the clock to get the first down and regroup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, 12+83=6 said: And you making excuses for bad QB play? Yikes! For a fan of the Bills for 40 years I would expect you to understand the game better..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerboski Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Their DL and linebackers destroyed our OL, that was the jist of it It would help if our pass catchers could catch non perfect throws every now and then..... (Knox twice, Beasley, Singletary) all had drops that could have been drive saving plays if not bigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Gal Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Augie said: Very true, but did we not expect days like this to the best teams in the league? With 9 new starters and a young QB a stinker like this against the hottest team in the league is disappointing but not surprising. The did it to the Pats and the 49ers. I still love our direction (as I know most do). First quarter Josh and fourth quarter Josh were not the same guy. It was a big stage against a great team for a young QB. Same with the early Pats* game. Atrocious, then he settled down. Next time won’t be the first time. START like 4th quarter Josh. Go Bills! Get the next one for 10 (TEN) wins! I am not complaining. I'd have loved to have seen them win, but they are not quite there yet. They are close. However, anytime Josh Allen has a poor game (to me his first quarter was terrible, Daboll did him no favors, and the dropsies of the receivers were painful to watch) he learns from it. Here's hoping he gets better after this game, too. And, I agree with you, first Q Josh and 4th Q Josh were not the same guy. 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12+83=6 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 9 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Outside of one blown play the ravens offense played just as bad. Why should they go to the playoffs? Just stop. I don't care about the Ravens offense. I care about our offense, and it concerns me greatly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wvbillsfan Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Bigantall said: Read your post and you'll figure it out The part about Beasley always open the part about John brown not winning one one one in the last two minutes against Cleveland or the Ravens The part about needing a big wr just waiting on your insightful responses Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, HOF4LOU said: There were several situations where it was 4 down territory but we passed on each one of them on 3rd down. Should have run on 3rd to make it 4th and short. No design runs today for josh or McKenzie. He didnt have time to pass so they should have used his legs more esp on those 3rd down plays. There was and it was stuffed for a loss. Ravens D front 7 outplayed the entire Bills team. It happens and work needs to be done in the future to counter it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 Lets put this picture to bed right now. Enough about how Beasley was open and people DVRd it 100 times. This is the point Josh made his decision. Not even a half second later Josh is planting to throw. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolishPrince Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 3 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Yeldon and Duke would of help at lease little bit today........... Yeah, but not as much as Kroft, Lee Smith and DiMarco! (sarc) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket94 Posted December 8, 2019 Share Posted December 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, stryker5673 said: Need more offense. We have tons of picks and cap space. We're in good shape. Yes...the Bills will get better. They hung in there with a heavy weight today, and could have conceivably beat them with some better execution. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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